14:04:54 <nikhil> #startmeeting glance_artifacts_sub_team 14:04:55 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Dec 7 14:04:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:04:56 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:04:59 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance_artifacts_sub_team' 14:05:09 <nikhil> ativelkov: mfedosin: Courtesy meeting reminder 14:05:27 <nikhil> #topic agenda 14:05:31 <nikhil> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-artifacts-sub-team-meeting-agenda 14:05:39 <kairat> ativelkov has urgent meeting today, but I have some updates from him 14:05:49 <nikhil> kairat: ah I see 14:05:53 <nikhil> Let's get started then 14:05:57 <nikhil> Let's log this 14:06:04 <nikhil> #topic updates 14:06:50 <nikhil> kairat: the floor is yours 14:07:06 <nikhil> I don't see any more updates in the queue or from me 14:07:21 <kairat> So here is 2 updates related to artifacts 14:07:43 <kairat> First, mfedosin prepared a spec about moving artifacts to separate service 14:08:02 <kairat> https://review.openstack.org/254163 14:08:02 <mfedosin> it's about deprecating v3 api :) 14:08:12 <kairat> I asked Alex to review it 14:08:22 <kairat> nikhil, it would be nice to review it 14:08:39 <mfedosin> I was writing it laying on the beach, so there may be some typos 14:08:43 <kairat> and merge if it is correct:) 14:08:44 <kairat> Heh 14:09:54 <nikhil> woohoo! 14:09:56 <kairat> Also Alex said that the spec about Glare is still in progress 14:09:58 <nikhil> awesome mfedosin 14:10:14 <nikhil> and thanks for pointing that out kairat, I will get to it today/tomorrow 14:10:26 <kairat> But he expect the draft to be ready before drivers meeting on Tuesday 14:10:41 <kairat> But 14:10:50 <nikhil> kairat: ok, can some of us get a sneak peek into that (say may be in an etherpad)? 14:11:05 <nikhil> oh, so tomorrow Dec 8th ? 14:11:23 <mfedosin> seems like that 14:11:29 <nikhil> woot! 14:11:33 <kairat> He said that it will etherpad 14:11:42 <nikhil> whatever works 14:11:43 <kairat> * will be etherpad draft 14:11:54 <mfedosin> so he won't push it on review? 14:11:56 <nikhil> good to get some momentum going on this 14:11:59 <kairat> it takes some time to prepare it properly 14:12:02 <kairat> I think yes 14:12:14 <kairat> mfedosin, ^ 14:12:56 <mfedosin> it's hard to merge etherpad in glance-spec repo 14:13:01 <kairat> So you can potentially discuss this on drivers meeting 14:13:10 <kairat> mfedosin, I guess it would just a start 14:13:26 <mfedosin> okay 14:13:45 <kairat> * will be just a draft 14:14:07 <nikhil> I actually prefer etherpad 14:14:13 <nikhil> it's easier to modify it 14:14:17 <nikhil> and collaborate on it 14:14:41 <nikhil> when we go out of draft status it will become easier on review 14:14:54 <kairat> Agree 14:15:08 <kairat> I hope Alex will succeed with updates in time 14:15:14 <mfedosin> I don't mind, but I want to see anything 14:15:28 <nikhil> yes! 14:15:37 <nikhil> even if it's just a good problem statement 14:15:49 <kairat> so 14:15:55 <kairat> it was main updates from my side 14:16:03 <nikhil> actually I have some write up for that but since alex is driving this.. 14:16:05 <kairat> Oh 14:16:17 <kairat> something wrong with my grammar today 14:16:25 <nikhil> np 14:16:37 <nikhil> irc can take a toll on your when you type a lot, esp updates 14:16:44 <nikhil> you* 14:17:41 <nikhil> btw, I have one 14:17:55 <nikhil> Some people were asking me about artifacts after the summit 14:18:10 <nikhil> since there isn't any official spec/bp to help them with the experimental API 14:18:20 <nikhil> I had shared a etherpad link that we have 14:18:22 <nikhil> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-v3-api 14:18:35 <nikhil> that has some good write up on artifacts 14:18:54 <mfedosin> this is really outdated 14:19:00 <nikhil> though, some things will change some we can borrow etc 14:19:00 <kairat> i heard Alex prepared some articles about artifacts 14:19:14 <kairat> mfedosin, do you know smt about this? 14:19:24 <mfedosin> an article? 14:19:28 <mfedosin> no 14:19:30 <kairat> blogs 14:19:34 <nikhil> kairat: glad you brought it up 14:19:36 <kairat> or something similar 14:19:48 <nikhil> I was saying, may be we should consolidate the timeline of this 14:20:08 <mfedosin> kairat: I heard the same thing. 14:20:28 <nikhil> like consolidate all the links (etherpads, blogs, reviews) and get some timestamping done on them to ensure we move forward 14:20:52 <nikhil> I hope we don't get a feedback again at the last minute with -1s and -2s 14:21:11 <nikhil> at least this way we can say we had something earlier and we moved forward for so and so reasons 14:21:31 <nikhil> of course this sort of a think would take a bit of time so, we can do this over the next month 14:21:34 <nikhil> what say? 14:21:38 <nikhil> thing* 14:22:08 <nikhil> no comments? 14:22:08 <kairat> nikhil, I can ask Alex about blog drafts, if he has any 14:22:23 <kairat> I am wondering how detailed we should be herre 14:22:28 <nikhil> kairat: that would be good, thanks 14:22:43 <nikhil> kairat: nothing official, just an etherpad with all the links on there 14:22:56 <nikhil> I can manage the metadata for those links 14:23:05 <nikhil> like adding description, time etc 14:23:16 <nikhil> gist (tl;dr);) 14:23:32 <nikhil> but I hope to put some context to this discussion 14:23:45 <nikhil> rather than going in a round about fashion 14:23:54 <nikhil> something import work recently discovered 14:25:13 <nikhil> so I am done here 14:25:14 <kairat> Would you like this for experimental api or Glare? 14:25:22 <jokke_> I read first pass on the spec 14:25:32 <nikhil> kairat: no, I was saying just for artifacts in general 14:25:37 <jokke_> thanks mfedosin will try to add my comments there today 14:25:53 <mfedosin> jokke_: sure! thanks 14:25:58 <nikhil> where and how it started and why it has changed etc 14:27:07 <kairat> It sounds good to me personally 14:27:18 <nikhil> cool 14:27:19 <kairat> mfedosin, what do you think? 14:27:56 <mfedosin> I don't mind 14:28:27 <nikhil> great 14:28:39 <nikhil> we've about 2 mins left 14:28:51 <nikhil> #topic open discussion 14:29:24 <nikhil> so should we plan a video session for artifacts/glare before holidays (if people are taking them)> 14:29:25 <nikhil> ? 14:29:45 <nikhil> you can think about it and we can discuss later this week or next 14:30:03 <mfedosin> I would like it 14:30:03 <kairat> nikhil, it would be good if Alex will drive this 14:30:14 <mfedosin> but I'm on vacation till next week 14:30:19 <kairat> So I would ping him also 14:30:27 <mfedosin> and my access to Internet is very limited 14:30:36 <nikhil> yeah, np 14:30:41 <nikhil> sometime after dec 16 14:30:46 <nikhil> thanks kairat 14:30:47 <mfedosin> yes 14:30:54 <nikhil> I will try to get these 2 things moving 14:31:18 <kairat> nikhil, are we going to discuss design there& 14:31:29 <kairat> Oops, we are out of time 14:31:31 <nikhil> kairat: hopefully, and anything that's necessary 14:31:46 <kairat> nikhil, ok, thanks 14:31:49 <nikhil> yeah, lets discuss (if needed) on -glance 14:31:51 <mfedosin> thanks! 14:31:54 <nikhil> Thanks all 14:31:59 <nikhil> #endmeeting