14:01:51 <flaper87> #startmeeting Glance Drivers 14:01:51 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Oct 20 14:01:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:52 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:54 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers' 14:02:05 <flaper87> nikhil: hey :D 14:02:10 <nikhil> flaper87: hey hey! 14:02:15 <nikhil> while we wait 14:02:25 <flaper87> everything ready? When are you leaving? 14:02:45 <nikhil> I wanted to share my updates. So, last week I spent a lot of time on my travel plans but had to cancel last min 14:02:51 <nikhil> so, I won't be there :/ 14:02:54 <rosmaita> o/ 14:03:02 <rosmaita> nikhil: bummer 14:03:04 <flaper87> nikhil: :0 14:03:07 <flaper87> nooooooooooo 14:03:14 <nikhil> hence, lack of activity 14:03:21 <flaper87> :( :( :( :( 14:03:37 <flaper87> nikhil: but but but 14:03:38 <nikhil> I will most likely be not in US for the next 2-3 weeks 14:03:40 <flaper87> :( 14:03:56 <flaper87> that's a bummer 14:03:56 <nikhil> but will be working around this TZ 14:03:57 <flaper87> :( 14:04:09 <nikhil> yeah :/ 14:04:20 <flaper87> sorry to hear that, hope everything is fine 14:04:24 <nikhil> I am trying to cancel my tickets today if time permits 14:04:42 <nikhil> yes, I can share details personally 14:04:56 <nikhil> I will get to the reviews soon, mostly today and tomorrow 14:05:10 <flaper87> I'm happy to hear and help with anything I can 14:05:16 <nikhil> and will try to be for the CPL meetings the week after and the next after the summit 14:05:16 <flaper87> cool, thanks for the heads up 14:05:26 <nikhil> thank you 14:05:46 * nikhil done 14:05:52 <flaper87> okidoki :D 14:05:55 <flaper87> #topic Agenda 14:05:59 <mfedosin> o/ 14:05:59 <flaper87> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-drivers-meeting-agenda 14:06:04 <flaper87> as usual, our agenda is there 14:06:13 <flaper87> #topic Specs review sprint in Tokyo 14:06:24 <flaper87> I'd like to do a spec sprint review in Tokyo 14:06:42 <flaper87> I'm chasing folks down to have critical specs updated before the end of this week 14:06:52 <rosmaita> that's a good idea 14:06:56 <flaper87> That way we can spend some time discussing these specs during the meetup 14:07:11 <nikhil> awesome 14:07:13 <flaper87> redbull+internet+fruits 14:07:23 <flaper87> nikhil: I hope you'll be able to join remotely 14:07:34 <nikhil> will try 14:07:42 <flaper87> On that same line, I'll be pinging you on specific specs. 14:07:43 <nikhil> thanks for considering that flaper87 14:07:52 <nikhil> sounds good 14:07:54 <flaper87> you = you all 14:07:57 <flaper87> :D 14:08:09 <nikhil> I think I can prioritize my work around just specs for the next couple weeks 14:08:16 <flaper87> The idea is to help sharing the spec review load 14:08:19 <nikhil> so happy to help 14:08:20 <flaper87> nikhil: that'd be ideal, yes! 14:08:34 <nikhil> ++ on sharing 14:08:35 <flaper87> now that liberty is out, specs are the driver's review prio 14:08:38 <mfedosin> trusts spec will be finished this week 14:08:45 <nikhil> good to get drivers gear properly loaded 14:08:48 <flaper87> mfedosin: you better 14:08:51 <flaper87> :P 14:09:13 <flaper87> awesome, I'll share more details on the spec review sprint on the M-L 14:09:29 <flaper87> questions? 14:09:35 <flaper87> or suggestions 14:09:38 <flaper87> :D 14:09:41 <mfedosin> no questions :) 14:09:57 <flaper87> okidoki 14:09:59 <flaper87> #topic Database purge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234747/ (flaper87) 14:10:07 <flaper87> That's the only spec I have for today 14:10:24 <flaper87> nikhil: I pinged you for that one but I figured it wouldn't hurt to bring it up here 14:10:36 <flaper87> it should be quite straightforward and it seems to bring good benefits for ops 14:10:42 <flaper87> and the code is on gerrit already too 14:11:23 <rosmaita> i would've sworn that i reviewed that spec, but i guess not 14:11:29 <nikhil> awesome, I didn't notice the code but definitely have that spec on my top 2-3 backlog items 14:11:53 <flaper87> rosmaita: it was in liberty and re-proposed for mitaka 14:12:03 <nikhil> since downgrades have been removed in kilo, this should be easy 14:12:04 <rosmaita> ok, maybe i am not crazy 14:12:24 <flaper87> nikhil: mmh, downgrades removed? 14:12:29 <flaper87> you mean in other projects 14:12:35 <nikhil> yeah 14:12:38 <flaper87> ah ok 14:12:42 <flaper87> yeah 14:12:51 <nikhil> I think we are a bit behind on oslo.vo 14:13:01 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216782/ 14:13:07 <flaper87> nikhil: we are, yes! 14:13:11 <flaper87> That's the link to the code 14:13:33 <nikhil> oh boy 14:13:38 <nikhil> it has a bsd license 14:13:42 <nikhil> BSD* 14:13:56 <nikhil> I will check, some people warned me about it 14:14:13 <flaper87> what has a bsd license ? 14:14:26 <flaper87> ah 14:14:28 <flaper87> the sqla-utils 14:14:32 <nikhil> sorry, BSD license https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216782/6/requirements.txt 14:14:38 <nikhil> yes 14:14:56 <flaper87> rosmaita: you probably reviewed the code. There's a review from you there 14:14:57 <flaper87> :D 14:15:14 <flaper87> ok, lets figure out the spec. This dependency should be mentioned there 14:15:26 <flaper87> That's all I have 14:15:30 <flaper87> #topic Open Discussion 14:16:04 <flaper87> <3 ? 14:16:07 <flaper87> :D 14:16:11 <nikhil> I wonder if there exists a licensing working group in openstack 14:16:14 <rosmaita> quick question: is a BSD licence bad? i know we like apache 14:16:17 <nikhil> anyone know? 14:16:25 <nikhil> or may be PWG? 14:16:30 <rosmaita> don't know about that 14:16:33 <flaper87> I don't think is bad. AGPL is for libraries 14:16:36 <nikhil> I am not sure, people for sure don't like GNU 14:17:00 <flaper87> if it's in requirements, it should be fine 14:17:03 <flaper87> :) 14:17:03 <nikhil> Apache is far most common 14:17:05 <rosmaita> i guess the question is does BSD allow commercial distribution 14:17:08 <flaper87> in global-requirements, that is 14:17:16 <flaper87> it does, AFAIK 14:17:17 <rosmaita> and it must, if apple is using it for os x 14:17:19 <nikhil> most likely yes 14:17:22 <nikhil> right 14:17:41 <nikhil> and old printer drivers etc iirc 14:18:01 <nikhil> if it's in global-req then it should be 14:18:07 <flaper87> yup 14:18:16 <flaper87> I think we're ok there 14:18:21 <nikhil> I will update in the next meeting so that we are all aware 14:18:30 <nikhil> some extra info ie 14:19:04 <flaper87> awesome, thanks! 14:19:08 <nikhil> I will get to this one next if it's ok: 14:19:09 <nikhil> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205632/9/specs/mitaka/approved/buffered-reader-for-swift-driver.rst 14:19:16 <nikhil> or are there more important ones? 14:19:53 <flaper87> you can take it 14:19:57 <nikhil> mostly because I know the code and can get to the code review right after (saying as I may be out of sycn for a couple weeks) 14:20:01 <flaper87> I left some comments and it has a +2 from brian 14:20:07 <nikhil> cool 14:20:38 <flaper87> nikhil: have you read/commented on Brian's spec ? 14:20:50 <flaper87> that would be a good one to get your feedback on before next week 14:21:02 <flaper87> We'll be discussing that one at the summit 14:21:04 <rosmaita> i like it 14:21:11 <nikhil> flaper87: sounds good. not on the spec but I had a whole email chain while that was being developed 14:21:36 <nikhil> disk buffering was one of my ideas (TM :P) 14:22:04 <flaper87> nikhil: hahaha 14:22:07 <flaper87> cool 14:22:58 <flaper87> just for the sake of clarity, we'll be discussing rosmaita's patch at the summit, not the disk buffering one (although I like it so far) 14:23:06 <flaper87> sorry for the confusion 14:23:11 <flaper87> ok, i don't have anything else 14:23:14 <nikhil> I see 14:23:17 <nikhil> thanks 14:23:48 <rosmaita> i'm revising the import spec now, should have the new patch uploaded in 2 hours 14:24:18 <flaper87> rosmaita: sounds great! Thanks 14:24:35 <rosmaita> i'm going to meet with stuart on thursday during glance meeting time (the meeting we are not having) to update the summit etherpad, hopefully with some key discussion points 14:24:36 <flaper87> I'll review it tomorrow and I'll add some comments to keep the discussion going 14:24:43 <rosmaita> cool 14:25:01 <flaper87> rosmaita: sounds awesome 14:25:10 <flaper87> if you guys want any feedback, please let me know 14:25:13 <flaper87> happy to help 14:25:27 <rosmaita> will shoot you an email soon as we have something to look at 14:25:34 <flaper87> great! 14:26:03 <flaper87> ok, thanks folks! Calling it 7mins earlier 14:26:15 <flaper87> have safe flights and nikhil you'll be missed 14:26:22 <flaper87> :( 14:26:24 <rosmaita> ty 14:26:25 <flaper87> #endmeeting