17:32:47 <mfedosin> #startmeeting glare
17:32:48 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Jun  6 17:32:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mfedosin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:32:51 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glare'
17:33:00 <mfedosin> #topic agenda
17:33:20 <mfedosin> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-artifacts-sub-team-meeting-agenda
17:33:33 <mfedosin> #topic Updates
17:34:05 <mfedosin> okay... so, our main focus was on testing and bug fixing
17:34:35 <mfedosin> we implemented test artifact type and now writing test for it
17:35:13 <mfedosin> also, there was a bug about uploading data into dict of blobs - today it's fixed
17:35:51 <mfedosin> our plan for tomorrow to continue testing
17:36:19 <mfedosin> then kairat will come to my office on Wednesday and we will start prepare our code for review
17:36:48 <nikhil> Hey hey
17:36:53 <mfedosin> if it's required we can organize virtual sync up on Friday
17:37:25 <mfedosin> where we'll tell you how Glare is organized and everything
17:37:45 <mfedosin> nikhil: sudipto what do you think?
17:38:15 <sudipto> mfedosin, i am extremely sorry - i just had a network blip. I just read this: "where we'll tell you how Glare is organized and everything"
17:38:30 <sudipto> I guess you spoke about a PoC
17:38:54 <mfedosin> I want to organize virtual sync up
17:39:10 <sudipto> mfedosin, sure.
17:39:26 <mfedosin> I'm not sure who's going to be there
17:39:26 <sudipto> btw, i re-read the spec today and left a few questions.
17:39:38 <mfedosin> yeah, I saw - thank you
17:39:54 <nikhil> I'm having n/w issues too
17:39:55 <mfedosin> I spent all day on Nova :(
17:40:03 <nikhil> my two msgs didn't go through
17:40:24 <nikhil> I am a bit caught up this week
17:40:32 <nikhil> also, I think we need to give more time before a virtual sync
17:40:41 <mfedosin> next week is absolutely fine as well
17:40:54 <nikhil> next week is glance mid-cycle
17:41:05 <nikhil> we can think of dedicating some sessions to glare then
17:41:06 <mfedosin> oh... I forgot
17:41:20 <nikhil> for glare
17:41:25 <mfedosin> It makes sense :)
17:41:27 <nikhil> there may be other cross project people interested
17:41:39 <nikhil> so we need to give them time to schedule as per their convenience too
17:42:04 <nikhil> let's work together in the next couple of days to come up with a glance mid-cycle agenda by wednesday
17:42:33 <nikhil> we can then send email to ML so that people can give feedback and we may be able to adjust a slots accordingly
17:42:45 <mfedosin> nikhil, now Nova work is done and I can concentrate on Glance stuff :)
17:42:52 <nikhil> awesome
17:43:14 <nikhil> Thanks to you both mfedosin  and sudipto for helping with Nova stuff
17:43:24 <mfedosin> btw, I have several non glare related topics for glance
17:43:25 <nikhil> it calls for a celebration!
17:43:50 * nikhil back to glare for the meeting
17:43:50 <sudipto> nikhil, yeah kudos to mfedosin for getting it over the line.
17:44:38 <mfedosin> also there are plans to write an article about Glare
17:44:55 <nikhil> which article?
17:44:56 <mfedosin> my management wants it from me :)
17:45:01 <nikhil> I am a bit caught up this week
17:45:11 <nikhil> lol, my old msgs are coming through now
17:45:32 <mfedosin> nikhil: weird :)
17:45:39 <nikhil> Also I think we need to give more time before organizing virtual sybc
17:45:39 <nikhil> I am a bit caught up this week
17:46:06 <mfedosin> :D
17:46:31 <mfedosin> We all understand that you are a bit caught up this week
17:46:38 <nikhil> lol
17:46:49 <nikhil> So, I don't quite understand the article bit
17:46:57 <nikhil> we don't have a code merged yet
17:47:09 <mfedosin> yeah - after code is merged
17:47:10 <nikhil> and people are a bit fussy about knowledge gap
17:47:14 <nikhil> ok
17:47:34 <nikhil> that's cool. in fact, I think it's needed :)
17:47:40 <mfedosin> they want to know how Glare is organized, but don't want to review the code
17:48:05 <mfedosin> so, they ask me to write a small text with pictures
17:48:11 <nikhil> ++
17:48:46 <nikhil> sudipto: thanks much for reviewing the spec
17:49:13 <sudipto> mfedosin, nikhil my review of the spec was with the intent of thinking of glare providing APIs for docker FS support.
17:49:14 <mfedosin> btw, I have to say, that next Monday is a holiday here
17:49:53 <nikhil> sudipto: good line of thought.we need to seriously consider it.
17:49:55 <mfedosin> so, I will have to miss next meeting, unfortunately
17:50:04 <nikhil> mfedosin: let's cancle it..
17:50:10 <nikhil> I asked one more glance guy and they found themselves not being able to review as they do not know what's going on. So, the midcycle will help.
17:50:19 <sudipto> there's a new project called Higgins - and they want to make containers as the first class citizen on OpenStack, I want to push them to use Glare/Glance - because in band image management would be probably necessary.
17:50:40 <nikhil> (let's get the team on same page as Glare during the midcycle)
17:50:48 <mfedosin> sudipto: great!
17:51:19 <mfedosin> but for me Glare is a catalog of versioned binaries with metadata
17:51:43 * mfedosin will read about Higgins more
17:52:40 <nikhil> sudipto: I don't full understand container image mgmt, but the requirement of the dependencies on the images -- ie dedup ( image delta ) is THE primary reason for my motivation behind glare.
17:53:14 <mfedosin> nikhil: hard dependencies are not implemented yet
17:53:27 <mfedosin> but for sure they will
17:53:28 <sudipto> nikhil, yeah - more than Higgins, I guess we should look at how to support a docker filesystem like thing there.
17:53:40 <nikhil> sudipto: ++
17:53:54 <nikhil> there's bunch of other that will have this requirement
17:55:15 <nikhil> sudipto: yeah, me too waiting to know and contribute more to glare
17:55:38 <mfedosin> nikhil: btw, if code is good enough, do we have any plans about merge?
17:56:03 <mfedosin> I mean when it can be done
17:56:26 <nikhil> mfedosin: how can I answer that question?
17:56:59 <nikhil> mfedosin: I will try to review from my end... we need to be collaborative with the rest of the community to make sure they are on the same page and not give their -2
17:57:00 <mfedosin> "yes, code will be merged next week"
17:57:13 <nikhil> ?
17:57:23 <nikhil> oh lol
17:57:28 <mfedosin> mfedosin: how can I answer that question?
17:57:50 <mfedosin> it's the answer that satisfies me :)
17:58:28 <mfedosin> so, we have not so much time left
17:58:31 <nikhil> I don't think that's how the community works.. at least we need to learn from past experience.
17:58:48 <mfedosin> I think we can skip next meeting
17:59:18 <mfedosin> because I'm not sure about my Internet connection there
17:59:41 <mfedosin> okay, thank you for coming and reviews!
17:59:55 <mfedosin> we can continue in #openstack-glance
18:00:05 <mfedosin> #endmeeting