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09:01:32 <aspiers> ok, welcome everyone :)
09:01:38 <aspiers> seems like a good turnout today :)
09:02:01 <aspiers> let's see if we can do things slightly quicker today!
09:02:35 <aspiers> #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans)
09:02:42 <aspiers> quick update from me:
09:03:03 <aspiers> #info aspiers caught up with most reviews in openstack-resource-agents
09:03:30 <aspiers> only one remaining now I think
09:03:47 <aspiers> also I've been testing automated setup of compute node HA in our product
09:03:57 <aspiers> and fixed the odd bug
09:04:09 <aspiers> and found a DoS attack in pacemaker_remote which upstream will hopefully fix :)
09:04:47 <aspiers> some of upstream are aware but IIRC I still need to file an upstream bug
09:04:57 <beekhof> oh?
09:05:29 <aspiers> if you TCP connect to the remote, it assumes it's a takeover due to a migration across corosync nodes, and it kicks the current corosync node out of the connection
09:05:46 <aspiers> whereas it should only do that after receiving a valid authkey
09:06:10 <beekhof> true
09:06:30 <aspiers> #info aspiers find a DoS attack on pacemaker_remoted, and will file a bug upstream
09:06:53 <aspiers> finally, I went to the OpenStack London Meetup and met some of the Product Working Group
09:07:16 <aspiers> including Mike Perez a.k.a. thingee who is now working on supporting cross-project initiatives
09:07:53 <aspiers> IIRC, he said there was quite some interest within the PWG on compute node HA, and said he might be able to help find some support for it
09:08:35 <aspiers> I also mentioned how OpenStack HA is a cross-project initiative but currently we are probably the only formal subcommunity established to work on it
09:08:46 <aspiers> unless there is some other group I'm not aware of
09:09:19 <aspiers> #info we might be able to get some support for compute node HA work via the Foundation
09:09:27 <aspiers> that's all from my side
09:09:42 * aspiers randomly chooses people
09:09:42 <kazuIchikawa> I joined product WG session in Manchester Ops meetup.
09:09:55 <aspiers> kazuIchikawa: cool! please give us an update
09:10:22 <aspiers> kazuIchikawa: are there minutes / etherpad anywhere?
09:10:50 <kazuIchikawa> We confirmed that the user-story of 'HA VM' became one of 'drafted' item.
09:11:11 <kazuIchikawa> And, next action is to refine the story to shift it to 'proposed' status in product WG.
09:11:23 <aspiers> great!
09:11:44 <beekhof> sounds like fun
09:11:55 <kazuIchikawa> we didn't have etherpad.
09:11:58 <aspiers> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/automatic-evacuation now has URLs for the new user story and spec
09:12:15 <kazuIchikawa> The link of product WG is here. http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-user-stories/
09:12:31 <kazuIchikawa> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-user-stories/user-stories/draft/ha_vm.html
09:12:48 <kazuIchikawa> this one is the user story which is 'draft' status currently.
09:14:21 <aspiers> kazuIchikawa: thanks. anything else significant to report about that meeting?
09:14:42 <kazuIchikawa> That's it.
09:14:44 <aspiers> ok
09:14:55 <aspiers> masahito: anything from your side?
09:15:45 <masahito> I started to write documentation about Masakari evacuation steps.
09:15:51 <aspiers> nice
09:16:08 <masahito> Some of this is now in PR.
09:16:31 <masahito> https://github.com/ntt-sic/masakari/commit/3fd943ddaad6c3e44680cf1c8f4f90132471c366
09:17:24 <masahito> And follow up-to-date Nova API spec.
09:17:36 <aspiers> #info HA VMs user story is submitted in "draft" status, and will be refined to "proposed" status in product WG
09:17:53 <aspiers> cool
09:18:04 <aspiers> #info masahito working on masakari documentation
09:18:27 <masahito> I noticed that Masakari, unfortunatlly, accessed Nova DB directly. So I fixed it.
09:18:43 <aspiers> cool, so it's all going through oslo now?
09:19:05 <masahito> It's via API now
09:19:21 <aspiers> sounds good
09:19:29 <masahito> that's from my side.
09:19:33 <aspiers> beekhof: anything from your side?
09:19:52 <beekhof> nothing terribly interesting
09:20:04 * aspiers makes a mental note to start with beekhof next time, so his kids don't have to wait longer :)
09:20:16 <aspiers> ok
09:20:32 <aspiers> ddeja?
09:20:35 <ddeja> My status:
09:20:37 <ddeja> * Still working on creating pacemaker fence-agent so mistral PoC can be tested - Looks good, but it's not run on my cloud, probably some configuration issue
09:20:39 <ddeja> * Working in Mistral to have experimental ACK after message is processed merged in Mitaka - mostly reviews and testing, but since it's only one week till M-3, I'll talk with Mistral core team on todays meeting if there is anything I can do to speed work up
09:21:01 <aspiers> awesome, fast typing too ;-)
09:21:11 <ddeja> aspiers: :)
09:21:57 <aspiers> #info more work on mistral PoC from ddeja, including upstream mistral work
09:22:06 <aspiers> _gryf?
09:22:53 * _gryf have nothing to report
09:22:56 <aspiers> ok
09:23:05 <aspiers> I think that was everyone
09:23:16 <aspiers> does anyone want to discuss any topics now?
09:23:35 <aspiers> I don't think I have anything right now
09:23:41 <beekhof> i'm good
09:23:58 <aspiers> except to nudge beekhof about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254515/ ;-)
09:25:21 <aspiers> going once ...
09:25:28 <ddeja> I'm wondering what's the connection between the user story and the work we are doing here?
09:25:36 <aspiers> oh
09:25:39 <ddeja> I mean, does it affect us in any way?
09:26:06 <ddeja> Or our solution should be presented as something, that resolves the user story?
09:26:07 <aspiers> well, I guess it makes our work more "official" somehow
09:26:16 <ddeja> ok
09:26:17 <aspiers> ddeja: yes, at least partially
09:26:46 <aspiers> and it may help us get an intern to contribute to the initiative, or something like that
09:26:58 <ddeja> ok, cool
09:27:03 <aspiers> it also helps clarify with the broader community the goals
09:27:25 <aspiers> and helps make sure we are trying to solve the right problem :)
09:27:40 <ddeja> an one more thing - when we will clarify what will the final solution be?
09:27:47 <aspiers> I guess the "Gaps" analysis will make that clearer
09:27:59 <aspiers> ddeja: I don't think anyone can predict that yet, it's too early
09:28:44 <aspiers> ddeja: but certainly SUSE and NTT are both very interested to see how the mistral PoC works out :)
09:28:53 <ddeja> aspiers: ok. I was thinking that since Masakari work is moving forward, Mistral PoC is nearly ready, we can bring back the discution
09:28:58 <ddeja> aspiers: ok, cool :)
09:29:22 <aspiers> ddeja: I think we all need time to experiment with the various working solutions
09:29:39 <ddeja> OK
09:29:44 <aspiers> BTW I would like to help out with the mistral PoC (or maybe after the PoC stage)
09:30:03 <aspiers> hopefully I will be able to defocus from our product work over the next month or two, but nothing confirmed yet
09:30:15 <aspiers> I'm also very very interested in Congress integration
09:30:46 <aspiers> #topic long-term strategy
09:31:01 <aspiers> #info probably still too early to make decisions about long-term strategy
09:31:31 <aspiers> #info we all still need time to experiment with various approaches and look for potential convergence paths
09:31:43 <aspiers> #topic AOB
09:32:00 <aspiers> ok, any last items?
09:32:10 <aspiers> going once ...
09:34:23 <aspiers> going twice ...
09:35:33 <aspiers> OK thanks very much, see you next week and/or in #openstack-ha!
09:35:34 <beekhof> sold
09:35:41 <ddeja> bye
09:35:44 <masahito> bye
09:35:44 <aspiers> bye for now :)
09:35:49 <kazuIchikawa> bye
09:35:56 <aspiers> #endmeeting