08:03:43 <aspiers> #startmeeting ha
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08:04:02 <aspiers> OK samP only has 10 minutes but I don't think we need long today anyway
08:04:16 <aspiers> I guess he will join any second
08:04:18 <samP_> sorry guys
08:04:26 <aspiers> no problem :)
08:04:33 <aspiers> #topic specs and user story
08:04:38 <aspiers> we can keep it very quick
08:04:41 <aspiers> I don't have much to report anyway
08:04:46 <aspiers> since I was too busy last week
08:04:56 <aspiers> but today I plan to fully review the user story and start writing specs
08:05:13 <aspiers> I think the nova-specs template should be fine
08:05:28 <aspiers> #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/template.html can be reused for writing our specs
08:05:32 <samP_> have you attend to VoIP meeting morning?
08:05:47 <ddeja> I was on sick leave last two weeks so I didn't do much, unfortunately
08:05:51 <samP_> with PWG team?
08:05:55 <aspiers> ddeja: sorry to hear that
08:06:05 <aspiers> samP_: I thought PWG meeting was tonight?
08:06:14 <samP_> ah.. ok
08:06:51 <aspiers> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team is the PWG meetings details
08:07:12 <aspiers> there is 10 minutes allocated for the HA VM user story
08:07:28 <ddeja> this week I'll mostly be focused on Mistral, since Renat asked me to cover the problem of ACK after message is processed
08:07:29 <aspiers> so I will try to make sure they have up to date info
08:07:42 <ddeja> aspiers: cool
08:07:51 <aspiers> samP_: did you start writing any specs yet?
08:08:27 <aspiers> I think I will start drafting via etherpad and add links from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha
08:08:46 <samP_> I start VM monitoring sepc. But I coulnt  finish it
08:09:03 <aspiers> samP_: cool, could you provide a link to it?
08:09:14 <aspiers> samP_: or copy/paste into a new etherpad?
08:09:26 <aspiers> e.g. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha-vm-monitoring-spec
08:09:33 <samP_> Sorry, I cant do it now.
08:09:43 <aspiers> samP_: no rush, I mean when you have time :)
08:09:45 <samP_> I will share it tomorrow.
08:09:49 <aspiers> great, thanks!
08:10:07 <aspiers> ddeja: so you have the host recovery spec assigned to you
08:10:14 <ddeja> aspiers: yup
08:10:17 <aspiers> ddeja: is that still OK?
08:10:22 <ddeja> totaly
08:10:28 <aspiers> great
08:10:44 <aspiers> let's use that nova-specs template
08:10:51 <aspiers> I was also wondering if we should create a blueprint
08:11:01 <samP_> aspiers: +1
08:11:03 <aspiers> it's not clear to me where blueprints fit into the new workflow
08:11:09 <aspiers> I tried to find docs on that but failed
08:11:15 <samP_> +1 for use nova spec
08:11:19 <ddeja> from what I understand
08:11:39 <ddeja> usage of blueprints depends on particular projects
08:11:46 <aspiers> yes that was my understanding too
08:12:00 <aspiers> i.e. some projects use blueprints, some use specs, and some use both - right?
08:12:08 <ddeja> yup
08:12:14 <samP_> nova use both
08:12:30 <aspiers> http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/_sources/kilo.blueprints.txt
08:12:39 <aspiers> but this does not exist for later releases
08:14:08 <ddeja> but that doesn't mean that nova is not using blueprints
08:14:18 <aspiers> true, they are still using them
08:14:22 <aspiers> AFAICS
08:17:31 <aspiers> ah, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/blueprints.html seems to be the latest
08:17:51 <samP_> Really sorry guys. I have to leave now. I will check the log when I come back. so, catch you all in openstack-ha.
08:17:55 <aspiers> although nova is a slightly bigger project than ours ;-)
08:18:01 <aspiers> samP_: no problem at all, thanks for joining!
08:18:07 <samP_> ddeja: get well soon...take care
08:18:15 <ddeja> samP_: thanks!
08:18:24 <samP_> ok then..
08:19:00 <ddeja> aspiers: from what I see, nova always have blueprints for new features
08:19:04 <ddeja> and sometimes specs
08:19:09 <aspiers> ddeja: yes it seems so
08:19:29 <aspiers> ddeja: any thoughts on whether we should also use blueprints?
08:19:39 <aspiers> I guess that would be tied to a particular project
08:19:51 <aspiers> which maybe we should avoid for now
08:20:04 <aspiers> since we already discussed moving specs around when we understand their per-project impact better
08:20:21 <ddeja> I guess for now we should just use specs
08:20:22 <aspiers> I am probably over-thinking this though :)
08:20:29 <aspiers> yes that should be fine
08:20:39 <aspiers> nova changes are bigger and more complicated
08:20:40 <ddeja> we can write blueprint if writing a spec started to be too complicated
08:20:51 <aspiers> exactly
08:21:10 <ddeja> OK, cool
08:22:07 <ddeja> do we have anything else on agenda? ;)
08:22:44 <aspiers> I don't think so
08:22:47 <aspiers> :)
08:22:52 <aspiers> #topic AOB
08:23:00 <aspiers> seems noone else is here either
08:23:05 <ddeja> yup
08:23:07 <aspiers> I hope I can join the PWG meeting tonight
08:23:35 <ddeja> I'm pretty sure that I couldn't
08:24:59 <aspiers> OK, well if I do, I can report back, e.g. on #openstack-ha
08:25:06 <ddeja> cool
08:25:17 <aspiers> alright, if there's nothing else shall we close the meeting for today?
08:25:54 <ddeja> I guess so
08:25:58 <aspiers> ok
08:26:06 <aspiers> see you on IRC :)
08:26:11 <aspiers> #endmeeting