20:03:56 <mattgriffin> #startmeeting HA Guide
20:03:56 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Apr 23 20:03:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattgriffin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:04:00 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ha_guide'
20:04:12 <mattgriffin> Agenda:
20:04:14 <mattgriffin> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HA_Guide_Update#Next_Meeting
20:04:32 <mattgriffin> short list today... essentially 2 points
20:05:14 <mattgriffin> update on spec... in progress. unfortunately had not time this week to work on. will have time tomorrow though
20:05:29 <mattgriffin> i informed the Docs team in their meeting yesterday that it is coming
20:05:47 <Shamail> I'll make a note (for myself) to check it before the next meeting to be ready w/ comments.
20:06:02 <mattgriffin> thanks Shamail ... and welcome. good to see you
20:06:07 <Shamail> * writes something that he won't be able to read later because of handwriting.
20:06:16 <mattgriffin> :)
20:06:20 <mattgriffin> ok... next topic
20:06:30 <mattgriffin> getting together in Vancouver
20:07:03 <mattgriffin> i think as long as we don't meet on Monday or conflict with any Docs or Trove meetings, then anytime that Shamail can find works for me
20:07:39 <Shamail> How does Thursday look for most people?  I agree with Monday being out
20:08:06 <megm> I'll be remote so Thursday is good
20:08:10 <mattgriffin> Thursday works for me. we can figure out a remote access method for megm
20:08:21 <mattgriffin> megm, Hangout ok?
20:08:30 <mattgriffin> megm, what's your timezone?
20:08:33 <megm> Hangout is good.
20:08:37 <Shamail> Yep.  Thursday will help with that too as we will know the wifi situation by then.
20:08:42 <mattgriffin> :)
20:08:49 <megm> PDT so same as Vancouver
20:08:56 <mattgriffin> excellent
20:09:05 <Shamail> I can make any time work after 10:45A PT
20:09:08 <megm> Worst case, I can call someones cell and you can put it on speaker ;-)
20:09:14 <mattgriffin> :)
20:09:18 <mattgriffin> Shamail, that's great
20:09:26 <mattgriffin> +1
20:09:45 <Shamail> How long should I reserve the room for?  I'd like to block it for now before we end up in a conflict.
20:10:29 <mattgriffin> Shamail, 1.5 hours? ... or just up to lunch :)
20:10:49 <Shamail> I'll put it down for Thursday 10:45-12:15P PT for now.  Sounds good?
20:10:56 <Shamail> We can leave early if we are really hungry.
20:10:59 <mattgriffin> great. thank you
20:11:03 <Shamail> You're welcome.
20:11:45 <megm> What is the agenda/goals for that mtg?
20:11:46 <mattgriffin> Shamail, i'll add it to the wiki page. can you email openstack-docs [ha-guide] when you know the location?
20:11:58 <Shamail> Sure.
20:13:05 <mattgriffin> megm, full agenda TBD but i was thinking a goal was that we'd start to get into writing ... at least kick off how we're going to do it (mechanics) and doing some writing (either conversion from other content or writing new stuff)
20:13:12 <megm> jpena and erikwilson, do you need context
20:13:23 <megm> mattgriffin +1
20:13:37 <jpena> megm: yes, please
20:13:59 <megm> Will we have source set up so we can check in and review content by then?
20:14:26 <mattgriffin> megm, hopefully
20:14:55 <megm> Matt, we have some new people -- you wanna bring them up to speed?
20:15:09 <mattgriffin> megm, yes...
20:15:17 <Shamail> Welcome jpena and erikmwilson.
20:15:20 <megm> I'll get links
20:15:27 <megm> And Nikolay_St?
20:15:49 <mattgriffin> jpena, erikmwilson: essentially we're going to update the HA Guide. we (led by megm ) have put together a revamped table of contents and are writing the spec now for full approval to proceed.
20:16:12 <Shamail> Oops, welcome to you too Nikolay_St!
20:16:12 * mattgriffin looks for more links
20:16:22 <megm> Summary plan: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ha-guide-march-2015-update
20:16:56 <mattgriffin> jpena, erikmwilson, Nikolay_St here are our past meetings: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HA_Guide_Update#Past_Meetings
20:16:57 <mattgriffin> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HA_Guide_Update#Past_Meetings
20:17:12 <megm> Working spec/TOC: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HAGuideImprovements/TOC#Strategy_and_assumptions:
20:17:48 <megm> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/improve-ha-guide
20:18:48 <megm> rough procedural plan:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-haguide-update-next-steps
20:18:56 <mattgriffin> and an email to the Docs team about what we're doing: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-March/006058.html
20:20:00 <Shamail> Link to existing guide (although new one will be fairly different): http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/index.html
20:20:51 <megm> I'm curious about the interests of the newcomers -- we are a really nice, fun group and hope you will want to join us in this endeavor!
20:21:03 <mattgriffin> :)
20:21:13 <mattgriffin> jpena, erikmwilson, Nikolay_St any questions?
20:21:51 <mattgriffin> we're just at the cusp of really starting to begin writing and implement the changes so you're joining at a great time
20:22:57 <jpena> no, it looks quite clear to me, thanks :). In my case, I'll try to contribute with some documentation. I've sent some patches during the last few weeks to the existing guide, so I'll try to keep up
20:23:23 <megm> jpena, any area that is of particular interest to you?
20:23:32 * mattgriffin was just going to ask that question
20:23:55 <megm> Whoops, sorry, I defer to mattgriffin ;-)
20:24:02 <mattgriffin> :)
20:24:06 <jpena> megm mattgriffin: I'm mainly interested in the active-active side, and can help with anything Red Hat-specific (I'm working there)
20:24:14 <mattgriffin> jpena, cool!
20:24:26 <megm> jpena, great!
20:24:52 <megm> erikwilson, what about you?
20:25:07 <mattgriffin> jpena, do you subscribe to the OpenStack-docs mailing list ... just so you can be reached outside of irc
20:25:22 <jpena> mattgriffin: sure, on my way to do that
20:25:43 <megm> Nikolay_St?
20:25:57 <mattgriffin> cool.. we put [ha-guide] in the subject line to get each other's attention
20:28:20 <Shamail> I have to leave.  I will see you next week.
20:29:52 <megm> Hello?
20:30:32 <jpena> subscribed now
20:31:22 <megm> Great!
20:32:28 <megm> jpena, it would be good for you to look at the TOC and see what you think.  The old guide is divided into active/passive and active/active and we propose restructuring the doc to parallel the Install Guide
20:33:08 <jpena> megm: good, I'll give it a look and provide feedback
20:33:26 <mattgriffin> jpena, great!
20:33:30 <mattgriffin> jpena, are you going to the Summit?
20:33:45 <jpena> mattgriffin: no, can't make it this time
20:34:27 <mattgriffin> jpena, ok... we will have a meeting during that time (at the Summit) and will have a remote access option for you and megm and any others that can't be in the room
20:35:34 <mattgriffin> ok. any other business to discuss?
20:35:48 <mattgriffin> jpena, we try to keep the meetings to 30 min but sometimes go over
20:36:23 <jpena> ok, no problem then
20:36:50 <megm> I'm good
20:37:05 <mattgriffin> ok. if there aren't any other items, i'm going to end the meeting. thanks all and welcome jpena, erikmwilson, and Nikolay_St !
20:37:12 <mattgriffin> #endmeeting