00:09:15 #startmeeting heat 00:09:17 Meeting started Thu Feb 20 00:09:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is stevebaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:09:18 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 00:09:20 The meeting name has been set to 'heat' 00:09:26 #topic **sigh** 00:09:36 updating wikis is srs biz 00:10:02 not sure why we had to move, given that they are the ones who didn't reserve the channel? 00:10:06 oh well 00:10:09 #topic rollcall 00:10:16 o/ 00:10:18 \o/ 00:10:20 I'm here 00:10:22 o/ 00:11:10 hey, small meeting 00:11:16 these usually are. 00:11:18 zaneb I have the same feeling :) 00:11:33 where is china? 00:11:39 I'm here, but have to leave in 5. 00:11:43 #topic Review last meeting's actions 00:12:04 there were none 00:12:17 #topic Adding items to the agenda 00:12:23 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282014-2-20.29 00:13:20 #topic Blueprints which will miss the FPF 00:14:06 shardy is working on a native waitcondition which I'm OK with having a feature proposal extension for 00:14:08 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/systemd-integration merged today 00:14:26 not sure why it wasn't kicked to implemented 00:14:30 sdake: is that all that is required? 00:14:38 yup 00:14:41 sweet 00:15:03 I'm not sure where this is at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/parameter-nested-schema 00:15:12 function-plugins has reviews up 00:15:31 I think therve was going to evaluate whether it was done indirectly already 00:15:54 stevebaker to make the FPF, does blueprint need tobe in "Needs Code REview" or is "Good progerss" sufficient 00:16:01 #action therve to update https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/parameter-nested-schema 00:16:26 stevebaker: I don't think its done via therve's recent changes. Maybe the unification of properties and parameter schema? 00:16:55 sdake: good question. I'd be happy with some definitions of Good Progress 00:17:37 stevebaker my definition of Good Progress means code is available for review, it may not pass the gate, and it may have some bugs, but for the most part it is functional 00:17:38 sdake: I don't think it's a question of the blueprint status, but more of whether you have patches up 00:17:51 sdake: sounds sufficient to me 00:17:57 sdake: I think that should count 00:18:14 agreed 00:18:38 It looks like a main part of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/i18n-messages has just been reverted, but I'm sure it shouldn't be kicked yet 00:18:42 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/db-sync-models-with-migrations has no patches up 00:19:15 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/retry-failed-update has no patches up 00:19:51 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/hot-software-config has no patches up 00:20:02 it jolly well does 00:20:08 there are def patches up for software config 00:20:10 launchpad lies then :( 00:20:21 maybe I've been slack with my commit messages 00:20:32 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/cancel-update-stack looks like Good Progress 00:20:56 sdake: there's like 30 patches listed for that? 00:21:29 I think I'll kick https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/db-sync-models-with-migrations from icehouse 00:22:08 zaneb I was expecting gerrit reviews to show up in launchpad, guess that isn't always the case 00:22:14 I haven't actually looked at the review queue this week :( 00:22:34 sdake: they're right there in the whiteboard 00:23:01 I'll kick https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/retry-failed-update for now 00:23:03 zaneb your right, my mistake 00:25:10 anything else? there seems to be something in review for all the Good Progress ones 00:25:33 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/as-intermediate-resources needs a priority 00:25:47 sdake: refresh ;) 00:26:11 #topic Heat presentation votes 00:27:15 Voting for Atlanta general presentations is now open, so if you have a proposal then post your links here so we know about them 00:27:20 #link https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/application-software-configuration-using-heat 00:27:24 vote for meeeee! 00:27:30 #link https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/introduction-to-openstack-orchestration 00:27:36 vote for us too! 00:27:43 vote for zaaaaaane! 00:27:49 (me and shardy - mostly shardy) 00:28:32 https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/orchestration-for-public-cloud-the-experience-of-running-heat-at-rackspace 00:28:45 you can search for presentations at the top 00:29:07 randallburt: ooh, nice one 00:29:16 vote mostly for kebray. I'm just there to correct the technical mishaps. 00:29:20 ;) 00:29:42 and to look pretty, of cource 00:29:58 naturally 00:30:13 vote for keeeeeith! 00:30:26 might be time to break out my brute-force screen-scraper to get a list of presentations 00:30:33 #topic Open Discussion 00:30:35 zaneb: +1 00:30:57 we have a lot to review 00:31:51 we have alot of core reviewers not in this meeting - might make sense to shoot them an email and remind them of the impending deadlines around reviewing the "Needs Review" blueprints :) 00:32:19 it's cool that there are people I have never heard of offering tutorials on Heat 00:32:31 zaneb got a link? 00:32:41 https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/hands-on-heat-tutorial 00:32:44 March 6 for feature freeze 00:32:51 heature freeze 00:32:58 (_weird_ but I guess cool) 00:33:46 cool SUSE is using heat? 00:35:00 we may as well finish early unless there is anything else 00:35:33 +2 for finish early 00:35:41 ya late here need to unplug :) 00:35:43 stevebaker: we sorted wrt security alerts n such 00:35:46 ? 00:36:06 sorry trying to type before we ended 00:36:12 randallburt: Was I right in that Jason volunteered for that? 00:36:21 stevebaker: yup 00:36:39 so the security team is shardy, zaneb, jasond and stevebaker 00:36:55 ah, that is a thing to discuss 00:37:40 we'll probably add heat-cfntools to the list of projects that belong to the security process. sdake do you recall and auditing as part of the fedora packaging process? 00:38:08 recall *any* auditing 00:39:48 also we need to decide if heat-templates is added to the security process. It currently has quite some issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat-templates/+bug/1267635 00:41:14 stevebaker: I wouldn't worry about adding the templates until there's some gating around them. 00:41:34 randallburt: I wouldn't either, except that Red Hat packages it 00:41:55 randallburt: and it may be the most obvious home for the software-config hooks 00:43:06 stevebaker: in the templates repo? ok, but then the gating should be done before we add it to the security process is all I'm saying 00:43:29 and it seems really odd that that repo is packaged 00:43:36 randallburt: yes, you're right about gating 00:44:09 sdake: why _is_ that repo packaged? 00:46:56 stevebaker: btw, when to we get to start submitting topics for the developers summit? Any ideas? 00:47:13 randallburt: I don't think that is open yet 00:47:30 not that I've seen either 00:47:57 oki, lets finish up 00:48:00 #endmeeting