20:00:37 <stevebaker> #startmeeting heat
20:00:37 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 29 20:00:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is stevebaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:00:38 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
20:00:40 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'heat'
20:00:55 <stevebaker> #topic rollcall
20:02:01 <tspatzier> hi all
20:02:27 <stevebaker> tspatzier: its just you and me so far :)
20:02:35 <kairat_> Hi
20:02:36 <stevebaker> zaneb: ping
20:02:38 <tspatzier> hi stevebaker
20:02:40 <dgonzalez> hi :-)
20:02:40 <randallburt> o/
20:02:42 <skraynev_> o/
20:02:49 <stevebaker> whew
20:02:53 <tspatzier> ah, others rolling in
20:03:20 <ochuprykov> hi
20:03:48 <stevebaker> #topic adding items to the agenda
20:03:52 <stevebaker> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282015-07-29_2000_UTC.29
20:04:56 <stevebaker> #topic heat reviews https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-reviews
20:05:28 <randallburt> removed my patch from that list. thanks, stevebaker!
20:05:39 <stevebaker> randallburt: ok
20:06:14 <randallburt> stevebaker:  looks like the designate stuff can fall off too; I'll remove
20:06:23 <stevebaker> specs are merging
20:07:00 <zaneb> hey y'all
20:07:32 <stevebaker> I mean *a* spec has merged
20:08:27 <dgonzalez> it would be cool if somebody could have a look at my spec regarding multi-region testing (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185598/)
20:08:32 <dgonzalez> I am still working on the required changes to openstack-infra, but as soon as this is done i would like to start with the test
20:09:53 <skraynev_> stevebaker, zaneb: could we also add ASG/RG refactoring in this list?
20:10:07 <stevebaker> skraynev_: sounds like a good idea
20:10:27 <stevebaker> dgonzalez: have you talked to infra about a multi region gate setup?
20:10:44 <dgonzalez> yes, and i am already working on it with them
20:10:48 <zaneb> yeah, I +1'd the rolling-update-for-RG patch already. would be good to get some more core eyes
20:11:49 <skraynev_> stevebaker: added
20:12:22 <dgonzalez> stevebaker: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200309/ for my proposal to add multi-region support to devstack-gate
20:12:27 <stevebaker> dgonzalez: sounds like a reasonable plan
20:12:47 <stevebaker> #topic
20:12:50 <stevebaker> um
20:12:54 <stevebaker> #topic Liberty-2 status
20:13:03 <skraynev_> zaneb: I plan to look on it tomorrow. do you know that in the last patch we remove inheritance between ASG and RG ?
20:13:16 <stevebaker> #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/liberty-2
20:13:29 <skraynev_> zaneb: I was surprised, when review it :)
20:13:45 <zaneb> skraynev_: yes, removing inheritance is a Good Thing IMHO. it's everything else I'm worried about ;)
20:14:00 <stevebaker> We're looking in a reasonable state. If you've completed something which isn't on this list then feel free to update the blueprint status and milestone
20:14:34 <stevebaker> If you have a fix for a bug which you think should be in l-2 then set its milestone
20:15:00 <stevebaker> otherwise we'll likely tag l-2 in the next day or so
20:15:23 <skraynev_> stevebaker: +1. I think, that we ready
20:16:18 <stevebaker> #topic heat:bundled tag for projects with heat resources
20:16:50 <stevebaker> there is currently a proposal for a devstack tag which can be assigned to projects that have devstack support
20:17:14 <stevebaker> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203785/2/reference/tags/devstack.rst,cm
20:17:56 <stevebaker> Once that lands I think we should adopt whatever convention is agreed upon and propose a similar tag for heat
20:18:14 <stevebaker> which would be applied to projects that have heat resources in-tree
20:18:24 <zaneb> stevebaker: that is the plan
20:18:45 <zaneb> we're using this one as a test-case to figure out the shape of these tags
20:18:57 <zaneb> then there will be a bunch more proposed
20:19:30 <stevebaker> yep, and since we have criteria for resources landing in-tree, I assume applying the tag will be just rubber-stamping
20:19:54 <zaneb> yeah, should be simple in our case
20:20:06 <zaneb> although you could argue about coverage
20:20:24 <zaneb> if a project has resources for half of their API, does that count? &c.
20:20:34 <zaneb> in practice I'm not too worried
20:20:46 <stevebaker> we may need some criteria that the resources do "something useful"
20:21:38 <zaneb> given that we are talking about in-tree stuff (as opposed to devstack), I think it's reasonable for the Heat PTL to be required to sign off
20:21:55 <stevebaker> for example, a designate domain resource wouldn't be much use without the record resource
20:23:13 <stevebaker> zaneb: yep, I think the TC should be relieved of the need to ever make a judgement call
20:23:45 <zaneb> indeed. we can make the judgement call if one is required
20:24:06 <stevebaker> resounding agreement, lets move on
20:24:10 <zaneb> in practice, I don't think projects will view this as a box-ticking exercise
20:24:17 <stevebaker> #topic Open Discussion
20:24:21 <zaneb> either they care about Heat support or they don't
20:25:18 <stevebaker> Angus has raised a concern about review velocity. Is there a feeling that we could do with more cores?
20:26:27 <stevebaker> things are landing, but there are a couple of people who could benefit heat by being core
20:27:37 * stevebaker nominates crickets and tumbleweeds to core
20:28:26 <randallburt> so nominations are in order then? I don't see why we wouldn't
20:28:36 <zaneb> reviewstats is down
20:29:10 <skraynev_> http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/heat-group/90
20:29:16 <skraynev_> #link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/heat-group/90
20:29:57 <skraynev_> note, that it's statistic for 90 days period
20:30:25 <zaneb> thanks :)
20:31:14 <skraynev_> zaneb: np ;)
20:31:41 <stevebaker> ok, expect a nomination email soon
20:32:02 <stevebaker> thats all I've got, any more open discussion?
20:33:11 <skraynev_> stevebaker: suggestion to make more review for refactor ASG/RG and convergence :)
20:33:21 <skraynev_> nothing else
20:33:57 <stevebaker> skraynev_: +1
20:34:30 <stevebaker> lets wrap up, and reconvene in the #heat
20:34:35 <stevebaker> #endmeeting