20:00:20 #startmeeting HorizonDrivers 20:00:21 Meeting started Wed Nov 25 20:00:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00:25 The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' 20:00:54 o/ 20:01:32 o/ 20:02:03 Is it already thanksgiving day in us? 20:02:21 looking at the rest of the meeting rooms seems like everyone cancelled meetings today 20:02:28 maybe I should have done that too 20:02:43 :) shortest meeting ever 20:02:43 maybe yeah 20:03:10 do either of you have anything to discuss that we didn't hit this morning? 20:03:25 maybe quite quickly: did we decide about mid-cycle yet? 20:03:48 I don't have it pinned down 20:03:55 ok 20:04:05 I can post a poll an narrow down dates 20:04:18 that'd be helpful, yes 20:04:30 alright 20:04:33 or if we could narrow locations down? 20:04:44 #action david-lyle post midcycle poll 20:05:00 that'd be helpful for getting esta done 20:05:12 +1 20:05:44 ok dates and locations in the poll 20:05:56 right, thank you 20:06:21 well, if we don't have a location outside US, I'll have to do ESTA anyways 20:08:30 any thing else to discuss? 20:08:43 nope 20:09:34 ok, I'll call it. Sorry for the false alarm 20:09:57 next week we won't have drivers meeting, only horizon meeting at 2000 20:10:11 will send email to list about that too 20:10:14 Oh okay 20:10:23 Will drivers meating cease? 20:10:26 meeting* 20:10:29 ok, thank you david-lyle 20:10:35 isn't that what we decided last time? 20:10:37 Are we going to cancel 12:00 times lot? 20:10:49 only drivers at 2000 alternating weeks? 20:11:10 Ah cool sorry I misunderstood 20:11:18 or is my lack of short/mid/long term memory showing 20:11:28 No, I remember that 20:11:38 I'm fine with that 20:11:48 ok 20:11:49 yeah 20:11:58 thanks again robcresswell for organizing the bug day 20:12:13 yes! robcresswell that was really helpful 20:12:15 No problem. I'm thinking about another post-christmas. 20:12:26 yes please! 20:12:36 robcresswell: let's do it once a month 20:12:39 robcresswell: that would be great 20:13:00 tsufiev: Something around that time scale would be nice 20:13:12 every 4-6 weeks, working around holidays, summits etc. 20:13:15 oh, btw, when setting a bug invalid, please remove assignee as well 20:13:26 otherwise tickets won't get removed 20:13:28 Oh, sure thing. 20:13:35 oh, didn't know that 20:13:48 other thing, I forgot tags for a while 20:13:51 :P 20:14:01 I added i18n and low-hanging-fruit to a few 20:14:16 low-hanging-fruit bugs get picked up in minutes, two of them already have patches up. 20:14:18 there is a topology-view tag 20:14:22 when a bug will get removed, you'll see a note on the top: "This bug will be removed in 60 days (see why)" 20:14:26 which I assigned a couple to 20:14:31 david-lyle: Thats useful. I'll look into those. 20:14:47 * david-lyle didn't realize we had so many tags 20:14:59 Whats the horizon-core tag for? 20:15:18 robcresswell: horizon library? 20:15:19 core table dashboard tabs panel action code 20:15:25 We have a few tags that could be dropped, like icehouse/juno backport 20:15:27 I think that was used to tag something for horizon part 20:15:31 Ah, I see 20:15:32 unlike dashboard part 20:15:50 yes what the other said 20:15:56 *others 20:16:09 ah yes, I think we can drop those version tags, no? 20:16:17 I think we should rename this meeting to EU-and-david, too. 20:16:18 :p 20:16:28 want to clean those up now? 20:16:31 Do you that there is a special UI in launchpad for managing tags? 20:16:39 accessibility 2 tag? 20:16:42 *know 20:16:46 angular tag? 20:17:03 tsufiev: Yes, there's an "edit official tags" button 20:17:05 django tag 20:17:11 ah the 2 is number 20:17:17 * tsufiev found it week ago 20:17:29 django 1.7 is going 20:17:48 liberty-rc-potential can go 20:18:14 swift... just assign those all to r1chardj0n3s and neillc 20:18:32 Haha 20:18:40 ok purged a couple tags 20:18:57 Not convenient, others may want to filter just swift bugs 20:19:18 And only richard's 20:19:29 *not 20:20:17 So... blueprints? 20:20:36 I guess we have quorum if people are interested 20:20:49 robcresswell: without you we were going to quit :P 20:21:04 yupp 20:21:07 Quit? Pfft 20:21:24 or move to somewhere else? 20:22:32 Heh, I feel bad now since its mainly EU folk and must be 9pm+ for mrunge anf tsufiev 20:22:42 Perhaps we should call it :) 20:23:11 hahaha 20:23:42 let's drop at least one blueprint 20:23:56 all 5 of the latest bps are prioritized 20:23:58 robcresswell: do you suggest end the meeting? I agree that it'd be better to postpone bp stuff until US folks join 20:24:09 tsufiev: Well, this is their tz 20:24:21 Cant' force them to join the meeting, but they should be here. 20:24:39 likely travel day in the UX 20:24:41 *US 20:24:49 Ohhh 20:24:54 I forget because I don't travel for holidays 20:25:03 Makes sense 20:25:07 Btw, we're making good progress so far with keystone ldap users and horizon 20:25:25 you mean, with pagination? 20:25:28 Orly? I had thought that effort had died 20:25:29 filtering? 20:25:32 Hehe 20:25:43 david-lyle: filtering + limits 20:25:53 excellent 20:25:58 great, yes! 20:25:59 Was this the suggestion with a blank table, that requires a filter? and that for results over 500 (?) we ask for a better filter 20:26:11 and less than 500 we can just show them all anyway, or something. 20:26:16 I think I killed a bug semi-related that you may have been tied to tsufiev 20:26:45 My colleague is working on that internally, he says that Keystone seems to work fine with leap limits, now it's time to fix horizon 20:26:59 LDAP limits 20:27:19 interesting 20:27:25 This autoreplacement is killing me 20:27:57 david-lyle: what is the bug? 20:28:12 * david-lyle was afraid you'd ask 20:28:17 haha 20:28:19 :) 20:28:35 will have to dig 20:29:15 Ok, if I haven't noticed so far, it must have been unimportant :) 20:29:36 users will report again 20:30:03 Btw, at the summit we discussed removing admin overview, and changing how admin panels show data 20:30:23 tsufiev: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1496045 20:30:23 Launchpad bug 1496045 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Horizon cannot display >1.5K users from LDAP" [Undecided,Won't fix] 20:30:50 I'm not sure the bug is invalid, but the targeted approach was wrong 20:31:09 which is what I put in my comment 20:31:17 david-lyle: no worries, I would do the same 20:31:58 We still have a bp, it's unapproved though... Should check the the details again 20:32:06 link that 20:32:20 if it's ready for review 20:32:36 No, I think it' snot 20:32:48 ok 20:32:49 Will do it at next meeting 20:34:17 killed two lbaas v2 bps 20:34:31 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/lbaas-v2-panel marked obsolete 20:34:55 #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/lbaas-v2-api marked obsolete 20:35:06 all in a plugin now 20:35:34 did we remove trove now? 20:35:42 mrunge: not yet 20:35:52 I have patches for sahara started, trove would go next 20:35:56 there are lots of trove related blueprints 20:36:00 once the pattern is better established 20:36:04 agreed 20:36:13 I have a few things to work out on sahara 20:36:32 even more involved than I thought 20:37:05 a plugin tutorial is going to be huge if we document all the pieces 20:37:38 which is why I'm having difficulty churning such a thing out 20:38:21 Doc all the pieces? As in, setting up a plugin? Or writing the content? 20:38:50 writing about testing and apis and integration testing and localization and structure 20:38:52 ugh, reminds me to document how to package a plugin 20:39:22 I could take the integration testing docs part 20:39:24 Is a lot of that not covered by existing docs? 20:39:34 Or *should* be covered 20:39:49 I think 20:39:51 A lot of that doesnt seem like it would be horizon-plugin-specific 20:39:56 that the basics should be covered 20:40:05 Since I'm going to sort it out for Sahara 20:40:10 the rest is going to be by example in existing plugins 20:41:28 * tsufiev suggest to delegate different parts to different people 20:41:41 yeah, I think basics first 20:41:45 fill in more later 20:41:51 spread the load, yes 20:42:13 updating thai's patch some, then we can build off that 20:42:16 but, my experience with packaging docs was: spreading to much doesn't work well 20:42:19 At some point we'll have to think about properly organising all the doc content thats been added in the past ~6 months 20:43:10 robcresswell: yes, there are a bunch of bits and no flow now 20:43:16 robcresswell, I'd say: organize/rework all docs 20:43:29 could use a major overhaul 20:43:34 Yeah, I've been more concerned with having content written first, then move it around later. 20:43:48 yes, something is better than none 20:43:56 coherent is better than some 20:43:57 At least now, Horizon folk can drop a link for people. Ideally, they'd find the links themselves :) 20:44:12 david-lyle: agreed 20:45:20 what about this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/widget-based-views 20:45:31 I think that's obsolete now 20:45:33 robcresswell: this is done no? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/drop-dj17 20:45:51 david-lyle: Not entirely. Still got deprecation messages 20:46:32 mrunge: I'd say superseded with ng work 20:47:00 yupp, and with david-lyle s plugins config for panels 20:47:03 I think that was a request for the overview pages 20:47:49 nevertheless, there's not much new in 20:48:12 david-lyle: I remember there was UX discussion about customizable overview, with tiled widgets 20:48:12 I think more concrete bps should be used than this one 20:48:20 My internet went a little odd there. 20:48:32 this is really just a place holder in the older style of bp 20:48:49 yes 20:48:52 I'd vote for culling this particular bp 20:48:59 +1 20:49:08 +1 20:49:22 + 20:50:15 #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/widget-based-views marked superseded 20:51:43 another superseded: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/faceted-search 20:52:04 in the light of searchlight 20:52:12 #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-designate marked superseded 20:52:38 mrunge: or magic search 20:52:50 yupp, both 20:53:02 #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/faceted-search marked superseded 20:54:26 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-mobile-design 20:54:53 I think that's superseded by hurgleburgler's work 20:55:01 yes 20:55:11 or even not applicable 20:55:40 ah, reading again, just superseded 20:56:03 #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-mobile-design marked superseded 20:56:10 woop 20:56:37 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improve-session-timout 20:56:59 seems obsolete since we removed that check 20:57:07 ergo, improved :) 20:57:43 well the bp is different I guess reading 20:58:09 that is something we won't fix 20:58:32 I think horizon shouldn't actively logout 20:58:56 It's bad for a web app to be too smart :) 20:59:00 nope, if it's a concern, your OS will auto lock screens 20:59:10 that's not the web apps job 20:59:14 +1 20:59:27 +1 20:59:33 +1 20:59:44 r1chardj0n3s: Good meeting contribution 20:59:46 :p 20:59:51 :-P 20:59:54 lol) 20:59:55 just woke up :-P 20:59:58 another obsolete bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/show-all-floating-ips 21:00:10 there seem to be at least 3 bps with the same scope 21:00:45 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/show-all-floating-ips obsolete 21:00:52 #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improve-session-timout marked obsolete 21:01:16 the other one was opened by me, I won't complain here 21:01:32 mrunge: do you think that floatings need to be moved to network panel? 21:02:02 tsufiev, the story with that is a bit different 21:02:13 but let's move to horizon channel 21:02:18 or discuss tomorrow 21:02:25 I mean, time is up here 21:02:42 mrunge: ok, better leave this for tomorrow 21:03:13 end meeting? 21:03:16 Thanks everyone. 208 bps 21:03:24 getting better 21:03:26 thank you all 21:03:30 #endmeeting