08:00:05 <robcresswell> #startmeeting horizondrivers
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08:00:10 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers'
08:00:34 <r1chardj0n3s> o/ ?
08:00:41 <robcresswell> Anyone around for meeting?
08:00:45 <robcresswell> hi r1chardj0n3s
08:00:49 <r1chardj0n3s> ohai mr cresswell!
08:01:02 <tsufiev> o/
08:01:54 <r1chardj0n3s> I did some programming today. Was even vaguely satisfying, for Javascript.
08:02:02 <robcresswell> We have an empty agenda again, hoorah.
08:02:06 <r1chardj0n3s> \o/
08:02:12 <r1chardj0n3s> I do have a BP
08:02:19 <robcresswell> Oh, go ahead
08:02:23 <r1chardj0n3s> I accidentally approved it. hang on
08:02:31 <robcresswell> "accidentally"
08:02:35 <r1chardj0n3s> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/xstatic-release-process
08:02:38 <r1chardj0n3s> you're welcome
08:02:56 <r1chardj0n3s> well, I was kinda just tooling around with the buttons and whoops :-)
08:03:29 <r1chardj0n3s> at the moment we're just waiting on a second +2 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330321
08:03:41 <r1chardj0n3s> then we can attempt an actual openstackci release
08:03:59 <r1chardj0n3s> (omg)
08:04:33 <robcresswell> Ooh, we could perhaps test with angular 1.4
08:04:40 <robcresswell> My first compatibility patch merged
08:04:47 <robcresswell> Not sure if there is much other work required for that
08:04:57 <r1chardj0n3s> yeah
08:05:28 <robcresswell> BP looks good anyway, thanks for writing it up.
08:05:30 <tsufiev> hm, it seems I forgot some details
08:05:47 <tsufiev> will we be able to test xstatic patches against dsvm-integration in horizon?
08:05:55 <tsufiev> or requirements updates?
08:07:08 * tsufiev looks about
08:07:18 <r1chardj0n3s> tsufiev: I'm not sure about doing that in the *gate* but certainly locally you'll be able to
08:07:38 <r1chardj0n3s> locally you can provide a modified upper-constrants.txt which pulls in the new xstatic package version
08:07:44 <r1chardj0n3s> oh wait
08:08:13 <r1chardj0n3s> you propose the upper-constraints.txt change in the requirements repo, with a "-1 don't merge me"
08:08:36 <r1chardj0n3s> and then depends-on: that from your other patch and the gate *does magic* to pull in the updated upper-constraints.txt
08:08:49 <tsufiev> oh, that's sad :(
08:08:51 <r1chardj0n3s> at least that's what lifeless told me some months ago would happen :-)
08:08:58 <r1chardj0n3s> sad?
08:09:07 <tsufiev> dsvm job cannot pull things using Depends-On
08:09:25 <tsufiev> regarding the gate and dsvm-integration nothing changes
08:09:36 <tsufiev> at least, until we fix devstack-gate scripts
08:09:37 <r1chardj0n3s> but upper-constraints is used to build then environ that dvsm runs in yeah?
08:09:45 <tsufiev> hm...
08:09:51 <r1chardj0n3s> maybe
08:09:53 <r1chardj0n3s> I'm not sure
08:09:55 * tsufiev scratches his head
08:10:00 <tsufiev> should give it a try
08:10:05 * r1chardj0n3s scratchs tsufiev's head also
08:10:35 <robcresswell> cute
08:11:25 <robcresswell> So, another thing I wanted to discuss is whether there is much value in maintaining this early UTC meeting slot
08:11:57 <robcresswell> I'm reluctant to remove it, but its basically just us 3 each week it seems
08:12:10 <tsufiev> my observation is the same
08:12:17 <r1chardj0n3s> it might be worth going back to the original email thread in which I polled the community and we settled on these two times
08:12:33 <r1chardj0n3s> perhaps the community changes, and we haven't
08:12:53 <tsufiev> *silently* changes
08:13:24 <robcresswell> Yeah, I agree. I had hoped that a meeting every 12 hrs would encourage more attendees. We seem to have a lot of contributors with zero interest in IRC interaction though, unfortunately.
08:13:44 <r1chardj0n3s> yeah, not that I would name names, but yeah
08:13:59 <r1chardj0n3s> might be a language barrier thing
08:14:40 <robcresswell> Indeed. I've been told before by non-native english speakers that they often feel uncomfortable in a debate due to the time it takes to process and formulate an answer etc.
08:15:09 <robcresswell> That said, silence isn't a solution to that :)
08:15:29 <r1chardj0n3s> yep
08:15:34 <tsufiev> more mailing list discussions?
08:15:41 <robcresswell> I'll dig up the original email from way back
08:15:49 <robcresswell> See what discussion occured at the time.
08:15:52 <r1chardj0n3s> if one of our highest review contributors doesn't engage in other discussions, I think we have a problem
08:17:19 <robcresswell> I agree, and the same thing tends to happen with patches that are thrown into the wild without a bp or any discussion of any sort
08:17:30 <r1chardj0n3s> yep
08:19:19 <robcresswell> Right, lets call it here unless there is anything else to discuss?
08:19:44 * tsufiev has nothing else to discuss
08:19:59 * r1chardj0n3s either
08:20:10 <robcresswell> Great, thanks all :)
08:20:14 <r1chardj0n3s> thanks robcresswell
08:20:15 <robcresswell> #endmeeting