15:59:42 <primeministerp> #startmeeting hyper-v 15:59:43 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Nov 6 15:59:42 2012 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:44 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:59:45 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' 15:59:52 <primeministerp> hi everyone 16:00:11 <primeministerp> there's a bunch of things to discuss today 16:00:15 <EmilienM> o/ 16:00:22 <primeministerp> EmilienM: yes? 16:00:28 <primeministerp> EmilienM: something to add? 16:00:32 <EmilienM> nothing, good morning :) 16:00:38 <primeministerp> o hi 16:00:39 <primeministerp> ;) 16:01:11 <primeministerp> ok 16:01:14 <primeministerp> let's begin 16:01:23 <primeministerp> #topic Current issues 16:01:43 <primeministerp> so people have experiencing problems with cloudinit on linux 16:01:58 <primeministerp> I was hoping the folks from ibm could share 16:02:06 <primeministerp> pnavarro: pedro 16:02:18 <pnavarro> hi all ! 16:02:22 <primeministerp> hi pedro 16:02:58 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: hi jose 16:03:12 <josecastroleon> primeministerp: hi 16:03:21 <pnavarro> hola josecastroleon 16:03:37 <josecastroleon> pnavarro: hola :) 16:03:45 <alexpilotti> hi everybody! 16:03:50 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: we were just about talk about the magic ip/cloudinit issues 16:03:53 <ociuhandu> hi all 16:03:58 <josecastroleon> cool 16:04:00 <primeministerp> I was hoping to have the others from ibm 16:04:05 <primeministerp> on the channel 16:04:40 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: I know you were thinking about using a vswitch plugin to deal with the problem 16:04:57 <alexpilotti> josecastroleon: you giuy are curently running cloud-init on Linux instances on Hyper-V? 16:05:08 <josecastroleon> primeministerp: I think it's less intrusive 16:05:19 <josecastroleon> alexpilotti: not on hyperv 16:05:36 <alexpilotti> josecastroleon: did u try on hyper-v? 16:05:36 <primeministerp> they are running only windows on hyperv 16:05:41 <josecastroleon> alexpilotti: I didn't have time to build the sample 16:05:48 <alexpilotti> josecastroleon: ok tx 16:06:01 <josecastroleon> but it should be the same 16:06:29 <alexpilotti> IMO we can already starting supporting it, I don't see many issues there. 16:06:37 <alexpilotti> ociuhandu is testing it 16:06:43 <josecastroleon> cool 16:07:06 <josecastroleon> i was checking the code in cloud-init, and i didn't find any hardware specific part 16:07:14 <alexpilotti> the magic IP is now a Quantum L3 thing 16:07:23 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: do you mind laying out the key issues 16:07:33 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: you've been working w/ the ibm folks on 16:08:04 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: the IBM folks are going to test it tomorrow, today they just asked about the status 16:08:53 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: for now we'll just go with the ugly route, as we have no nova-network and no quantum… for the next 2 weeks :-) 16:08:56 <primeministerp> ok 16:09:30 <alexpilotti> my proposal is to go with the KVP extensions we talked about in SD and in josecastroleon's email 16:10:07 <alexpilotti> we can just read the metadata host / port and inject it into the guest 16:11:00 <primeministerp> ok 16:11:03 <alexpilotti> has anybody other ideas on the subject? 16:11:20 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: anything to add? 16:11:57 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: another idea would be to use configdriveV2 16:11:58 <josecastroleon> it's not difficult to include it on cloud-init 16:12:19 <josecastroleon> but there is no HW specific stuff on it 16:12:36 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: but I've never used it 16:12:49 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: sounds good 16:12:58 <primeministerp> ultimately we probably should support config drive correct? 16:13:35 <primeministerp> ok 16:13:40 <primeministerp> are we all good on the status 16:13:45 <primeministerp> of the cloudinit bits 16:13:50 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: I'm going to look at it 16:14:02 <primeministerp> should we talk more on the implementation of the windows side while on the topic? 16:15:19 <primeministerp> i'll take that as a no... 16:15:22 <primeministerp> ;) 16:15:44 <primeministerp> ok 16:15:44 <alexpilotti> I'd check the config drive 2 and see how OS independent it is etc 16:15:51 <primeministerp> #topic cinder 16:16:08 <primeministerp> pnavarro: have you commited the new wmi based cinder work? 16:16:22 <primeministerp> pnavarro: if not when can we expect to see it get commited? 16:17:37 <primeministerp> pnavarro: ping 16:17:41 <pnavarro> primeministerp: well, the code is committed in my repository, let me some days to test it with grizzly 16:17:51 <primeministerp> pnavarro: ok 16:18:11 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: great, can't wait 16:18:37 <primeministerp> pnavarro: I'd love to see it in for the g1 timeframe 16:18:53 <primeministerp> pnavarro: hopefully we can have that and the inital quantum bits in time 16:18:53 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: what do we do with teh old one? We just deprecate it? 16:19:08 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: g-1 is in 2 weeks! :-) 16:19:58 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: the fix for teh current Cinder client just went through: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15337/ 16:20:00 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: yes, the evenlet issues makes us to have no choice but to deprecate it 16:20:33 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: yeah, as soon as we can commit it we can even remove the fix 16:20:56 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: I got it 16:21:07 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: problem is that we'll need that fix anytime we will need to use subprocess.Popen 16:21:12 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: with pipes 16:21:26 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: We hope to not use it anymore 16:21:54 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: in all the openstack projects? hmmm 16:22:05 <primeministerp> interesting 16:22:12 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: I started a bug in eventlet 16:22:27 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: good 16:22:55 <primeministerp> should we discuss the quantum doc alessandro sent around? 16:23:10 <primeministerp> #topic quantum 16:23:34 <primeministerp> alessandro circulated a document w/ outlining ideas on quantum 16:23:40 <alexpilotti> https://bitbucket.org/which_linden/eventlet/issue/132/eventletmonkey_patch-breaks 16:24:03 <primeministerp> #link https://bitbucket.org/which_linden/eventlet/issue/132/eventletmonkey_patch-breaks 16:24:29 <primeministerp> pnavarro: thoughts on quantum? 16:24:39 <alexpilotti> there's more to add on the implementation side 16:24:51 <alexpilotti> beside the high level ideas in the doc 16:25:34 <pnavarro> primeministerp: well... in general I agree Dan that the we should have an incremental approach 16:25:55 <primeministerp> pnavarro: i agree as well 16:27:12 <pnavarro> it's a good document to start talking but we should plan a meeting to talk about implementation details 16:27:49 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: when do you want to meet? I plan to release the first version in max 2 weeks 16:28:15 <pnavarro> thursday it's ok for me 16:28:23 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: with an ambitious idea to make it for g-1 :-) 16:28:32 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: great! time? 16:29:01 <primeministerp> pnavarro: send a meeting request if possible 16:29:07 <pnavarro> late at night 16:29:24 <pnavarro> when my children are sleeping 16:29:33 <pnavarro> I'll send a meeting request 16:29:33 <alexpilotti> is there anybody elese that would like to join me and pnavarro? 16:29:37 <pnavarro> ok 16:29:45 <primeministerp> #topic general discussion 16:29:52 <primeministerp> anyone have anything else to add 16:29:58 <pnavarro> guys, I have to leave 16:30:03 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: how are things at cern these days 16:30:07 <alexpilotti> if not pnavarro just call me on Skype whenever you wish and we set it up :-) 16:30:07 <primeministerp> pnavarro: thx pedro 16:30:09 <josecastroleon> see you 16:30:17 <pnavarro> ciao 16:30:30 <alexpilotti> bye! 16:30:35 <EmilienM> bye pedro 16:30:39 <luis_fdez> primeministerp: I´ve a small patch to fix the disk stats 16:30:49 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: great 16:30:50 <pnavarro> just a quick note, yesterday I presented Hyper-V in the meetup Paris 16:30:58 <primeministerp> pnavarro: o awesome! 16:31:18 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: did they like it? :-) 16:31:35 <EmilienM> we actually did :) 16:31:42 <alexpilotti> lol 16:32:02 <pnavarro> yeah, there were even some people interesed as an alternative to MS private cloud 16:32:06 <alexpilotti> luis_fdez: can you past the fix? 16:32:07 <EmilienM> people was quite curious 16:32:14 <primeministerp> great 16:32:25 <luis_fdez> yes alexpilotti, i´ll send you the patch file and take a look 16:32:29 <alexpilotti> pnavarro EmilienM: how many people showed up? 16:32:42 <primeministerp> EmilienM: were there slides? 16:32:48 <pnavarro> sorry, I'll lose my bus if i'm not leaving now 16:32:51 <alexpilotti> luis_fdez: consider also that there's a fix for the stats 16:32:56 <EmilienM> alexpilotti: about 25 people was here. 16:32:57 <primeministerp> pnavarro: go 16:33:04 <primeministerp> EmilienM: that's good 16:33:17 <alexpilotti> guys I have also a meeting right now 16:33:33 <primeministerp> ok gues 16:33:35 <primeministerp> er guys 16:33:38 <primeministerp> ending the meeting then 16:33:42 <primeministerp> #endmeeting