19:01:29 <ianw> #startmeeting infra
19:01:30 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Aug 13 19:01:29 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:01:33 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'infra'
19:01:52 <ianw> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting
19:02:09 <ianw> #topic Announcements
19:02:29 * mordred waves at ianw
19:02:48 <ianw> no clarkb, no fungi today, at least
19:02:58 <ianw> #topic Actions from last meeting
19:03:11 <ianw> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-08-06-19.01.html Minutes from last meeting
19:03:35 <ianw> only one action item for clarkb to collect ssh logs from gitea containers
19:03:49 <ianw> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674930/
19:03:52 <ianw> i believe that is done
19:04:20 <ianw> #topic Priority Efforts
19:04:33 <ianw> #topic Storyboard
19:05:12 <ianw> i think it is probable that anyone likely to give useful updates here is otherwise engaged
19:05:24 <corvus> i'll buy that
19:06:20 <ianw> #topic Update config management
19:06:49 <ianw> not sure there's anything particular here; we have some general topics with some cross over
19:07:47 <ianw> #topic Zuul as CD engine
19:08:54 <ianw> again, if anyone has something the floor is open, i don't think think there's been particular focus on this, this week
19:09:16 <corvus> i'm unaware of any current work
19:09:29 <ianw> #topic OpenDev
19:10:46 <ianw> slightly related; the testinfra maintainer (which we use for a lot of our verification of role actions during CI jobs) has expressed interest in getting more people onboard
19:11:15 <ianw> he is looking at moving under various ansible-ish or python-qa organisations on github
19:11:52 <ianw> i've tried to do a bit of a hard sell for opendev as a home, we'll see ... anyway he has added a few more maintainers to the existing project too
19:12:13 <ianw> we'll see
19:12:29 <corvus> ianw: thanks, that'd be cool. and even if he doesn't bite, it'd be nice to know why not
19:12:56 <ianw> #topic General topics
19:13:14 <ianw> #topic Trusty ugprade process
19:13:24 <ianw> i think the most exciting thing that falls under this is the logs work
19:13:33 <ianw> #link http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-announce/2019-July/000046.html deprecation notice
19:13:39 <corvus> oh *that's* why it's under this topic, i was wondering :)
19:13:52 <corvus> i get it now.  it's "retire the trusty logs server" :)
19:14:06 <ianw> most would have noticed the new links being provided in results to zuul overview pages
19:14:51 <corvus> i haven't heard of any issues with that.  it's been 24h, so i suspect we won't roll back.  which i think means we can make the switch to swift itself any time.
19:15:07 <corvus> we can do that today if we want.
19:15:16 <ianw> i think it's looking great, thanks corvus
19:15:21 <corvus> (or first thing tomorrow)
19:15:58 <ianw> yeah, probably best to wait until a few more eyes than just me are on it :)
19:16:49 <corvus> how about i propose the change, and we'll see what the +2s look like :)
19:16:52 <mordred> corvus: yeah - I think making the swift switch seems safe
19:17:20 <mordred> corvus: I'm still having the chrome rendering issue, which is going to anger me enough one of these days to figure out what's happening
19:17:39 <mordred> but I don't think it's actionable enough to hold up anything - and I can always switch to log tabs if needed
19:18:04 * mordred looks forward to an insane amount of console.log statements
19:18:06 <ianw> mordred: what's the short version of the rendering issue?
19:18:15 <corvus> mordred: is it possible to run other browsers on your platform?
19:18:38 <mordred> corvus: I do not know the answer to taht question - haven't tried - it's worth a shot
19:18:39 <ianw> (just so if anyone reports it i can say "we know" :)
19:18:52 <corvus> (it would be interesting to see if chromium or even ff has the same issue)
19:19:14 <mordred> ianw: for tasks with LONG output, chrome draws the box the right size for the content length, but stops drawing the text part way through
19:19:24 <mordred> no error messages in console log
19:19:41 <mordred> further tasks exist properly
19:19:44 <corvus> and i am unable to reproduce that with chromium on bionic
19:19:50 <mordred> I expect it's going to be super weird
19:19:51 <mordred> yeah
19:20:17 <mordred> since I imagine the number of openstack devs running on chromebooks as their primary platform is probably pretty low ... I think it's safe to consider me an outlier for the moment
19:20:42 <corvus> mordred: yes, that is the reason i consider you an outlier  :)
19:20:47 <ianw> ok; yeah i run pretty recent firefox from fedora 30 and haven't noticed anything, but will keep an eye
19:20:53 <mordred> corvus: I'm sure it's not the only reason
19:21:19 <corvus> it's today's reason
19:21:43 <mordred> corvus: I'm sure it's not today's only reason :)
19:22:03 <ianw> speaking of logs
19:22:18 <ianw> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675226/ reduce oscwrap output in devstack
19:22:40 <ianw> i bet there's more that could be done, that cuts a thousand or so lines
19:23:01 <ianw> anyway, with logs more discoverable maybe people will work to make them more readable too
19:23:26 <corvus> ++
19:24:30 <ianw> so we will watch for swift logs; then we can think more about the logs.o.o host i guess.  i'll be happy to help there, but after a week or two of the new situation bedding in
19:24:58 <ianw> #topic AFS mirroring status
19:25:16 <ianw> i just wanted to call out the buster mirror issues
19:25:30 <ianw> fungi is working on this per
19:25:33 <ianw> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2019-08-12.log.html#t2019-08-12T11:00:57
19:26:16 <corvus> we're hoping to improve the mirror roles based on that
19:26:29 <corvus> #link https://review.opendev.org/675703 mirror role
19:26:43 <corvus> but that's going to be the basis for the new replacement role
19:27:10 <corvus> it's not clear to me whether to solve the immediate issue we should roll forward with that, or we need to also do some kind of hack for the current role
19:27:55 <corvus> i think as long as we don't need the new feature yesterday, we can roll forward.  writing the replacement won't be that hard.  i just want to get more feedback on it, to increase the chances we've covered all the cases we're likely to hit
19:28:02 <corvus> (so we don't have to do a third version)
19:29:01 <ianw> yeah, i seemed that making a blank buster-updates repo wasn't going to work iirc
19:29:14 <ianw> which leaves "client side", as it not having it there in the first place
19:29:46 <corvus> also, we should probably take the changes fungi is proposing to that role and think about whether we need any similar changes for the rpm distros
19:30:14 <corvus> it's much more thought out than my initial "copy what we already have" attempt
19:32:14 <ianw> yeah, i can't remember anything analogous we've worked around for rpm
19:33:04 <ianw> anyway, i think this has a path forward, if anyone was wondering what's going on
19:33:19 <ianw> #topic new backup server
19:33:47 <ianw> i just wanted to call out that i've worked out the kinks with the vexxhost backup server and it all seems to be working
19:34:13 <ianw> so the last step is to turn it all on with
19:34:14 <ianw> #link  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675537
19:34:59 <ianw> i'd like some feedback there, because we discussed that we don't want the server in the regular ansible runs, and there are few ways we could do that
19:35:44 <ianw> i feel like if it's in emergency it's way to easy to forget
19:36:13 <ianw> the only host using it right now is review-dev, but i will migrate other hosts
19:37:10 <ianw> then i think i'll start a new backup02 in rax.ord and have that as a secondary host.  once that's working, we can retire the original backup host (but keep it's volumes attached to the new server)
19:38:23 <ianw> #topic PTG planning
19:38:36 <ianw> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenDev-Shanghai-PTG-2019
19:39:11 * fungi pops onto internet to wave at friendly infra people during lunch
19:39:26 <ianw> i'm sure clarkb will have more on this next time, but for now, i'm sure if anyone wants to dump something there it will be addressed
19:40:07 <ianw> #topic Open Discussion
19:41:31 <ianw> i've been trying to get a bit more dib functional testing on arm64 working, to make sure that's staying up to date
19:41:50 <ianw> seen a couple of node allocation failures which might be a slow cloud or maybe something else, will look into a little today
19:42:40 <ianw> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676120/ add ubuntu-ports to mirror script
19:42:41 <ianw> would help
19:44:41 <ianw> ok, i think that's about it then
19:45:30 <ianw> #endmeeting