14:00:54 #startmeeting interop_challenge 14:00:55 Meeting started Wed Dec 14 14:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is topol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:58 The meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge' 14:01:15 Hi everyone, who is here for the interop challenge meeting today? 14:01:15 The agenda for today can be found at: 14:01:15 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-12-14 14:01:17 We can use this same etherpad to take notes 14:01:25 o/ 14:02:31 seems just you and me. 14:02:39 hi 14:02:52 hopefully folks saw the email/meeting invite with the time change and meeting channel change 14:02:54 where is the interop meeting today? 14:03:05 skazi its supposed to be here 14:03:32 the mail says both #openstack-meeting-cp (in text) and #openstack-meeting-5 (in url) 14:04:12 at least this is what I got in my invite 14:04:20 @skazi, hmmm, I thought that I changed both. 14:04:33 o/ 14:04:36 skazi was that my email? 14:04:55 I see tongli in From 14:05:00 @skazi, this is the email. 14:05:06 Interop Challengers, we will continue our regular meeting on IRC Wednesday. 14:05:06 Important changes: 14:05:06 1. Our meeting time has been changed to UTC 1400. From this point on, we will be always using UTC 1400. 14:05:07 2. Our meeting channel has been moved to openstack-meeting-5. 14:05:09 3. The mailing list has been moved to interop-wg@lists.openstack.org 14:05:11 Here is the link for the etherpad. Please find more information on the pad. 14:05:13 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-12-14 14:05:15 Date/Time: Wednesdays at 1400UTC 14:05:17 Meeting at IRC channel: #openstack-meeting-5 14:05:19 IRC Web link if you are not using IRC client: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=openstack-meeting-5 14:05:21 wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge 14:05:26 I just put a message in openstack-meeting-cp that we are here 14:05:31 I do not see where it shows -cp. please let me know so that I can update. 14:05:38 tongli: I mean the usual calendar events 14:06:03 it contains: 14:06:06 (...) 14:06:07 Meeting channel is at #openstack-meeting-cp on Wednesday UTC 1400 14:06:07 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=openstack-meeting-5 14:06:08 @skazi, let me double check, I thought I changed everywhere. 14:06:10 (...) 14:06:15 sorry for confusions. 14:06:24 I got the update 14:06:38 @skazi, I saw it, I missed one place. 14:06:42 btw, I got unsubscribed from defcore mailing list somehow (automatically?) 14:06:50 skazi: we are changing mailings 14:06:59 skazi we have a new mailing list 14:07:01 and gave people the chance to join the other one if they are still interested 14:07:05 skazi: check the history 14:07:21 gema: OK, thx, I missed it somehow :( 14:07:29 * gema will find it 14:07:52 skazi: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/interop-wg 14:07:59 gema: thx 14:08:08 np 14:08:31 nobody seems to be hanign out in openstack-meeting-cp 14:09:10 @topol, good thing, either moved here or may be one hour late. 14:09:23 I vote for the one hour late 14:09:25 I don't think we have enough people for a quorum :-( 14:09:31 since the mailing list has also been changed, the changing notes may not reach everyone. 14:09:32 been fighting instincts today :) 14:09:40 topol: what is happening over Xmas? 14:09:46 are we still having the meeting? 14:09:59 gemam we are gonna take a break until Jan 4 :-) 14:10:06 topol: good :D 14:10:29 but we were just hoping today to close on what the priority workloads should be 14:10:58 yep 14:11:11 we have 19 votes. 14:11:25 where is the voting? I missed last week 14:11:40 ahh doodle, will vote 14:11:41 yes, but not enough folks in the meeting to have a discussion 14:11:49 http://doodle.com/poll/cpxbnhgp66ckb8gt 14:11:50 fair enough 14:11:58 @gema, you can vote now. 14:12:03 will do, thanks 14:12:38 from the votes so far, Kubernetes is the winner. 14:12:52 NFV behind that, then hybrid cloud. 14:13:10 looks we are doing Kubernetes & NFV as of now. 14:13:47 yep, they all sound interesting, though 14:14:17 yes. they are all nice ones. I can copy the results to our wiki after this meeting. 14:14:19 so the question on NFV is do we have something to get started on as a worload 14:14:36 Yay markvoelker 14:15:04 hi gang--running a little behind today on account of some contractors showing up early. =) 14:15:13 no worries 14:15:17 @topol, that one is most fluid, we need a NFV guy to shed some lights for defining a scenario or use case. 14:15:25 let me start going thru the procedural stuff. its short 14:15:48 #topic review action items from previous meeting 14:15:48 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-12-07-15.01.html 14:15:58 tongli to push the our postmortem doc as a patch to the new repo! 14:16:07 tongli this is done correct? 14:16:08 @markvoelker, you have not voted yet. 14:16:30 that ironic given he created the poll :-) 14:16:30 @topol, yes, got a review and addressed the issue, patch set 3 as of today. 14:16:43 great thanks tongli 14:16:47 tongli: I'll check out the patch today 14:16:52 markvoelker to create doodle poll and post to ML. 14:16:56 thanks for iterating on the previous comments 14:17:11 doodle poll is clearly done! THANKS markvoelker 14:17:24 topol ask ttx about flex space 14:17:28 @markvoelker, mostly just copy & paste and reformat, also added what I learned from. 14:17:30 Regarding the doodle poll: I think we've gotten most of the responses we're going to get. We had no responses in about 4 days until one more came in this morning 14:17:38 hope that the structure is ok. 14:18:12 @markvoelker, agreed. 14:18:23 ttx said: 14:18:26 cloest one to NFV sits at 6, so. 14:18:27 11:45 ttx: actually InteropWG has a room 14:18:27 11:45 ttx: together with RefStack 14:18:46 ttx: so you can use that space on Monday-Tuesday 14:18:46 11:46 ttx: otherwise there will be room for extra meetings anyway 14:19:42 so it looks like we have lots of options for having discussions during PTG. Just will need to decide how much time we want to allocate at PTG for interop discussions 14:20:02 K, onto todays agenda. 14:20:20 #topic logistics 14:20:38 We have made some logistic changes: 14:20:38 Meeting is now at UTC 1400, we won't care about the day light saving time. 14:20:38 Meeting channel is now at openstack-meeting-5. Thanks to shamail for all the hard work to get us this channel and time slot. 14:20:40 Mailing list is also changed to interop-wg@lists.openstack.org 14:20:42 We are skipping the next two weeks, the next meeting will be Jan. 4th, 2017. 14:21:02 #topic Review doodle poll results 14:21:02 Decide which two work loads we will finish based on the doodle pool. 14:21:02 The link to the doodle pool. http://doodle.com/poll/cpxbnhgp66ckb8gt 14:21:20 So I got us to the meat of the agenda for today :-0 14:21:37 Looks like Kubernetes was top choice 14:21:40 yeah. right back at the doodle pool. 14:22:05 22 votes now. 14:22:33 Looks like NFV is a strong second. 14:22:37 yeah, feels like Kubernetes and NFV were both clear favorites. Do we want to shoot for both? 14:22:52 Results are pretty definitive... Anyone demand a recount :-) 14:23:08 we have more developers this time around, we should be able to do that. I do not mind start thinking about kubernetes. 14:23:14 I can start working on that one. 14:23:22 We also have the NFV workload that we (att) developed a little too late for the last challenge! Should be pretty ready-to-go. 14:23:22 someone else can start doing NFV. 14:23:23 markvoelker, I think we should start with both 14:23:33 We were running into a little issue during the recent changes in Lampstack but those should be fixed shortly. 14:23:45 @eeiden, yes, yes. 14:23:47 eeiden, cool. did that ever get uploaded to the repository? 14:23:50 we should look at that one. 14:24:01 @topol, no. 14:24:04 https://git.opnfv.org/models/tree/tests/utils/ansible-setup.sh 14:24:05 https://git.opnfv.org/models/tree/tests/vLamp_Ansible.sh 14:24:13 here currently ^ 14:24:13 I did not see it in our repo. 14:24:20 tongli ++ I definitely was hoping with NFV we would not have to start from scratch 14:24:40 @topol, I will take a look at that and see if we can move over. 14:24:44 eeiden can you push it up to our new repo? 14:24:51 seems it is also using ansible. 14:24:55 great. I will take a look. 14:25:12 sure! 14:25:19 yes, ansible is a popular choice 14:25:29 @eeiden, all ATT copyright at the top. 14:25:53 ooh right thanks for pointing that out 14:25:59 so markvoelker and others we don't have a ton of people at todays meeting but I think the doodle poll speaks clearly for all of us 14:26:29 @eeiden, any sort of document? 14:26:29 I'll talk to others and get it pushed up asap once I'm positive it's working 14:26:47 so everyone okay with us picking both workloads as two to start with? 14:26:51 like how to get it started, use what kind of image, etc. 14:26:56 topol: ++ 14:27:06 @eeiden, good. 14:27:19 @topol, +1 14:27:20 all documentation currently at the top of vLamp_Ansible.sh but we'll get it into a readme 14:27:24 aim high. 14:27:37 @eeiden, great. 14:27:48 you know where our new repo is, right? 14:28:08 https://github.com/openstack/interop-workloads 14:28:12 yep! 14:28:15 thank you 14:28:18 it is also documented on the wiki page. 14:28:37 ngv should sit at this path. 14:28:52 #agreed Kubernetes and NFV will be our top priority workloads for this round of the interop challenge 14:28:57 workloads/ansible/shade/nfv 14:29:06 I assume this uses shade. 14:29:18 #action, eeiden to push up the NFV workload to new repo as soon as possible 14:29:24 it does 14:29:31 #action tongli to start on kubernetes 14:29:37 great, then the path should be correct. 14:30:01 #action all hopefully folks join in on one of the two workloads. Or both :-) 14:30:17 @topol, both , both, both, both. 14:30:32 everybody will have to run both, I assume. 14:30:44 tongli, yes let's plan on that 14:30:54 #agreed everyone to run both workloads 14:30:55 I have found some bugs in the existing workloads. 14:31:16 I can no longer run them successfully due to mysql version changes. 14:31:17 #topic Where do we track bugs 14:31:38 @topol, perfect, so where do we track bugs? 14:32:07 like other projects can we get a bugzilla? 14:32:13 @gema, @shamail? 14:32:33 er launchpad :-) 14:32:40 launchpad sounds good to me 14:32:43 like other projects? 14:32:44 It's pretty easy to set up a launchpad project. 14:32:53 should be exactly like other projects. 14:32:57 sounds good to me too 14:33:56 @topol, I will screen shot the doodle pool and place it at the end of the wiki page. 14:34:11 so that will mark the closure of the pool and record the results. 14:34:15 u ok with that? 14:34:35 tongli, sounds good 14:34:52 how about every one else? 14:34:57 +1 14:35:06 still do not see mark's vote though. 14:35:16 so we need to figure out how to get a launchpad bug project for our project like all the other projects have 14:35:24 * markvoelker closes the doodle poll to show final results 14:35:36 markvoelker THANKS 14:36:18 tongli can you check with someone from infra on how we get ourselves a launchpad bug project 14:36:58 topol: anyone can register an LP project. There are a few bits to tie it into the openstack gerrit system though. 14:37:12 http://docs.openstack.org/developer/fuel-docs/plugindocs/fuel-plugin-sdk-guide/create-environment/launchpad-project.html 14:37:12 @topol, sure, I have not done this before, have no clue, hoping someone else can give me a pointer at least. 14:37:22 tongli: topol: refer to http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html 14:37:23 tongli check with fungi? 14:37:35 ok. 14:37:57 There are instructions there fore pretty much everything I believe. 14:38:05 http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html 14:38:12 so we need to call it as our git repo 14:38:16 that's the recommendation 14:38:25 https://launchpad.net/projects/+new 14:38:32 ^ this is where you create it 14:38:39 gema, markvoelker thanks 14:38:51 +1 14:38:54 * markvoelker has to run over to his kids' school so will be dropping off 14:38:57 ok, I will try that after this meeting. 14:39:07 #action tongli to create lauchpad for our repo 14:39:10 np 14:39:17 then you can either add people to the project 14:39:20 or you can have a team 14:39:21 @markvoelker, see you after new year. 14:39:22 markvoelker I think we are pretty much done 14:39:24 and make that team the maintainer of the project 14:39:26 :D 14:39:38 and the team can have all of us 14:39:42 #topic Contribute to the lesson's learned document. 14:39:43 with some admins 14:39:49 please contribute to this :-) 14:40:06 can you share the link again? 14:40:10 have a great hliday break markvoelker 14:40:13 @topol, review and add stuff to the doc. 14:40:22 holiday 14:40:30 holidays!!! 14:40:30 found it :D 14:40:41 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409847/ 14:40:48 #action all review and add stuff to the lessons learned doc 14:41:22 #action topol create a short blog article to update everyone on the status of the interopchallenge 14:41:38 @topol, good action. 14:41:54 tongli: just because it is not for you? :D 14:42:09 @gema, do not say that loud. 14:42:11 gema exactly!!! 14:42:15 haha 14:42:17 see I tookone 14:42:36 #topic open discussion 14:43:24 we are on holiday break. Next meeting is not until January 4th!!! 14:43:32 no meetings in next two weeks but please working/thinking about the new two workloads. 14:43:39 have a good one, everyone! Merry Christmas :D 14:43:59 tongli: workloads and turkey, got it ;) 14:44:07 gema ++++ 14:44:24 @gema, haha. awesome. that is the plan. 14:44:49 I wish everyone a wonderful holiday break and thanks to everyone for what they have contributed to the interop challenge. This has been a great community effort!!! 14:45:03 +1 14:45:07 happy holydays 14:45:08 thank you for your patience, topol and tongli 14:45:16 And we will have a great 2017 14:45:19 gema +1 14:45:22 luzC_: feliz Navidad! 14:45:35 :D igualmente 14:45:51 Okay Im gonna give folks 5 mintues back! 14:45:57 #endmeeting