14:01:29 <topol> #startmeeting interop_challenge 14:01:30 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jan 11 14:01:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is topol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:31 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:35 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge' 14:01:38 <markvoelker> o/ 14:01:38 <zhipeng> #info zhipeng 14:01:45 <topol> Hi everyone, who is here for the interop challenge meeting today? 14:01:45 <topol> The agenda for today can be found at: 14:01:45 <topol> # https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 14:01:47 <topol> We can use this same etherpad to take notes 14:02:04 <tongli> o/ 14:02:20 <topol> #topic Review last meeting action items 14:02:34 <topol> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-04-14.00.html 14:02:49 <topol> eeiden to push up the NFV workload to new repo as soon as possible 14:03:11 <topol> Is eeiden here? Any progress on this? 14:03:28 <skazi_> o/ 14:03:58 <tongli> @topol, I think eeiden put a link somewhere, but it is not the patch to our repo. 14:04:34 <topol> tongli will eeiden push a patch soon? 14:04:51 <topol> tongli can you follow up with eeiden? 14:04:55 <tongli> @topol, I hope so. but I have not seen any. 14:04:59 <topol> K 14:05:10 <tongli> @topol, I can ask 14:05:26 <topol> #action tongli to check on eeiden about NVF workload 14:05:48 <topol> next item 14:05:49 <topol> tongli, topol to track down who added the fedora patch 14:06:06 <topol> I didnt do anything on this. tongli any progress? 14:06:09 <tongli> @topol, I fixed these problems. 14:06:24 <tongli> remember the big patch that was merged last week? 14:06:31 <topol> tongli very nice! 14:06:44 <tongli> these problems are now fixed and we also support ubuntu 16.04 and 16.10 14:07:03 <tongli> I have started working on the k8s workload. 14:07:22 <topol> tongli THATS GREAT! Thank you very much for that. Did you mark the bug closed? 14:07:34 <tongli> provisioning and destroy roles are pretty much copied from lampstack code (of course some changes). 14:07:49 <tongli> started looking into k8s master and worker node setups. 14:07:54 <tongli> should have something soon. 14:08:37 <tongli> @topol, the bug, I thought when the patch merges, the bug gets closed automatically. let me check though. 14:08:45 <topol> great. #action tongli leading an effort to complete the k8s workload 14:09:08 <topol> tongli I think you are correct... If we have everything configured correctly 14:09:16 <tongli> @topol, wow, I was right, these two bugs were closed automatically. 14:09:27 <topol> tongli perfect 14:09:39 <topol> next item 14:09:56 <topol> topol to write Interop Challenge phase 2 update article 14:10:47 <topol> This is done. Will be published today. I'll tweet out a link to it. (Follow me on twitter :-) ) 14:11:23 <topol> next item is done thanks to tongli 14:11:26 <topol> all please help trying to get wordpress back working 14:11:30 <topol> so thats done 14:11:33 <topol> next item 14:11:47 <topol> zhipengh to add overview section to lessons learned doc 14:12:06 <tongli> @topol, few companies in China are now running the lampstack workloads. 14:12:15 <tongli> talked to Daisy last night. 14:12:15 <topol> zhipengh, did you push a patch on this. I dont recall seeing it 14:12:45 <topol> tongli let's cover that in the open discussion time. folks will be excited to here about your China company efforts 14:12:50 <zhipeng> i've not 14:12:52 <topol> err hear 14:12:58 <zhipeng> will try it before the end of this week 14:13:11 <topol> zhipeng. Sounds great. Thank you! 14:13:53 <topol> #action zhipeng to add overview section to lessons learned doc 14:14:24 <topol> #topic Time needed for Interop Challenge Project in PTG (A day or half day) 14:15:02 <tongli> I think last time we said to have half day. 14:15:11 <topol> I believe folks felt a half day was the right amount to allocate for Interop Challenge at PTG. Anyone feel we should deidicate more or less time? 14:15:46 <garloff> You can do a lot in half a day if everyone is well prepared .. 14:15:57 <topol> garloff +++ 14:16:15 <topol> OK let's stick with that. 14:16:19 <tongli> @topol, it may help if we list things that we want to do there. 14:16:56 <tongli> for example, let's find an appropriate way to support different platforms, 14:16:59 <hogepodge_> Can you make sure to coordinate with introp wg, as they'll be using the same space 14:17:07 <topol> tongli, I agree. 14:17:31 <tongli> I started doing that in the lampstack workload, but for k8s and nfv, we may take that approach. 14:17:35 <topol> hogepodge, so good point. Space issue. Here is what ttx told me 14:17:38 <tongli> so the workload scripts will be cleaner. 14:17:50 <topol> 14:18:27 <topol> 11:45 ttx: actually InteropWG has a room 14:17:50 <topol> 14:18:27 <topol> 11:45 ttx: together with RefStack 14:17:50 <topol> 14:18:46 <topol> ttx: so you can use that space on Monday-Tuesday 14:17:52 <topol> 14:18:46 <topol> 11:46 ttx: otherwise there will be room for extra meetings anyway 14:18:19 <tongli> what is the date for PTG? 14:18:29 <hogepodge_> That's my understanding too 14:18:30 <topol> So choices are we can coordinate with InteropWG/RefStack and have guaranteed space 14:18:39 <gema> 20 - 24 feb 14:18:41 <gema> Atlanta 14:19:15 <topol> #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ 14:19:30 <topol> or take our chances with "other space" 14:19:42 <gema> topol: are there starbucks in atlanta? 14:19:46 <gema> I am always up for coffee 14:19:50 <topol> My guess is RefStack/InteropWg want to be at our topics as well 14:20:04 <gema> probably 14:20:11 <topol> gema all over the place. Great restaurants too. I lived there for 9 years many years ago 14:20:12 <tongli> haha. @gema, or tea for these who do not drink coffee. 14:20:24 <gema> tongli: indeed 14:20:52 <topol> so markvoelker is on. Any chance we grab the InteropWG room for half a day? 14:21:17 <tongli> I remember someone from ATT posted a link to the NFV script, I took a brief look, it is a very simple script. 14:21:19 <topol> hogepodge_? 14:21:22 <tongli> but I could not find the url. 14:21:22 <markvoelker> topol: we're already sharing that space with RefStack and are still ironing out agendas, so we'll have to coordinate 14:21:34 <gema> tongli: the other thing we could do is organise a dinner in kind of thing 14:21:42 <gema> topol: sorry, wrong tab 14:21:49 <gema> topol: and do the meeting in the evening 14:22:00 <tongli> @gema, yeah, I am always up for a meal. 14:22:06 <topol> markvoelker, Makes sense. If you think you can carve out time to put us in your agenda let us know 14:22:13 <gema> like the women of openstack organise breakfasts 14:22:26 <tongli> can we put the things we need to do in the etherpad? 14:23:06 <topol> ideally we set things up so all the InteropWg folks can participate in our half day session. We have like a full week there correct? 14:23:51 <topol> markvoelker, how many days does RefStack/InteropWG get a room for? 14:24:05 <topol> tongli yes we shoud start an etherpad 14:24:35 <markvoelker> Monday and Tuesday 14:24:41 <topol> #action tongli to create an etherpad for topics real fast so we can put the link in this meeting 14:25:11 <tongli> @topol, let's just use today's etherpad 14:25:29 <tongli> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 14:25:37 <tongli> I have put few items there already at the bottom. 14:25:40 <topol> tongli, thats fine 14:26:12 <topol> #agreed #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 will be our PTG Agenda etherpad 14:26:51 <tongli> @all, please add the things that you would like to do there. 14:27:05 <topol> So markvoelker let us know if you/RefStack need the room for two full days. If so we hold our half day after that and then you all can attend. Does that make sense? 14:27:37 <markvoelker> Sure. I'm sure we can find some time, just have to figure out when and how much. 14:27:53 <topol> Folks should start adding agenda items to the etherpad. We can figure out the when details later 14:27:54 <tongli> PTG is in Atlanta, got address? should we book the hotels? 14:27:59 <topol> markvoelker sounds good 14:28:19 <topol> tongli, I provided a link 14:28:31 <topol> try and book where its being held 14:28:40 <topol> I think the hotel is in OTR 14:28:59 <tongli> @topol, the link again please. 14:29:15 <topol> K, #action all please add items to the PTG agenda etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 14:29:33 <topol> we can review these next meeting. 14:29:52 <topol> next topic, 14:30:00 <topol> #topic open discussion 14:30:42 <topol> So it turns out the there is a big effort in China on OpenStack interop. tongli is our liasion to that effort so we can all join forces 14:30:49 <topol> tongli can you say a few words 14:31:37 <topol> tongli? 14:31:38 <tongli> @topol, yes, 14:31:57 <tongli> there will be a kick off meeting for Interop China chapter next week. 14:32:08 <tongli> I was asked to be there talking, 14:32:21 <gema> tongli: where does this effort come from? 14:32:33 <gema> any particular company or is it many of them or ...? 14:32:34 <topol> geam China government sponsored it I believe 14:32:40 <gema> ahh, great 14:32:45 <topol> tongli which comapnies? 14:32:47 <tongli> and 2 of the companies are currently running lampstack workloads on there cloud. 14:32:54 <tongli> let me get the list 14:32:56 <zhipeng> not government sponsored I think 14:33:44 <topol> zhipeng, I thought it was. Or Govt. standards body sponsored 14:33:46 <tongli> zhipeng, I think there is one body which belongs to the government. 14:33:53 <tongli> I am not sure about all the short names. 14:34:01 <zhipeng> I think the local chapter, China or other country, should not create forks from our work here 14:34:18 <zhipeng> tongli topol yes many are related :P 14:34:21 <topol> zhipeng. We agree! That's why we are send tongli! 14:34:58 <topol> zhipeng. I don't want any forks either. If you can help keep that from happening please do 14:35:05 <gema> tongli: ah, ok, thanks 14:35:06 <tongli> looks like CAICT, Huawei, ZTE, T2Cloud, FiberHome, JD, Cloudin. 14:35:09 <gema> ta! 14:35:10 <tongli> these are the names I got. 14:35:22 <gema> great! 14:35:24 <zhipeng> topol definitely 14:35:38 <tongli> only know few. 14:35:39 <topol> tongli where and when is the meeting? Beijing? 14:35:56 <tongli> but I was told they are pretty hot on interop and eager to hear what we have to say. 14:36:02 <topol> zhipeng where are you located? 14:36:05 <tongli> yes, in Beijing, 14:36:08 <zhipeng> Shenzhen 14:36:29 <tongli> in April, there will be a summit there right before Boston summit. 14:36:40 <zhipeng> tongli the air condition in Beijing might not be very well 14:36:42 <topol> zhipeng, did you want to goto the Beijing meeting? 14:37:01 <zhipeng> topol I won't but I think we have other colleagues going over 14:37:12 <topol> zhipeng. Ok good 14:37:14 <tongli> zhipeng, I know. I will bring few masks. 14:37:30 <zhipeng> tongli quite a few is better :P 14:37:42 <tongli> really happy to see that the real users of OpenStack from China really want to do the interop stuff. 14:37:56 <topol> so in any case, we are hoping tongli can go to this interop group and make sure we all work together. Right tongli? 14:38:03 <zhipeng> the main thing is the input I think 14:38:27 <topol> At the end of the day, we have a repo we can all store sample workloads in 14:38:35 <tongli> absolutely, I like to ask the people there to contribute test scenarios. such as how you use the openstack. 14:38:43 <tongli> and what is the most use cases. 14:39:25 <tongli> the worst thing we can do is to cook up some workloads and they do not matter. 14:39:53 <topol> so that meeting is around Jan 17 I believe. tongli can give us an update when he gets back 14:40:04 <tongli> 16 to 17. 14:40:04 <garloff> hogepodge_, markvoelker: how do we feed what we learn from InterOp-Challenge into InterOp (DefCore) certification? Should things we find in the challenge inform the things we want to push into the DefCore standards? 14:40:06 <topol> tongli, maybe they have an NFV workload 14:40:11 <tongli> I still do not have a flight ticket yet. 14:40:23 <topol> tongli work with Vince 14:40:35 <tongli> @topol. yes. thanks. 14:40:52 <topol> garloff great topic 14:40:54 <zhipeng> garloff that would be ideal 14:41:13 <tongli> so I probably will attend this meeting next from Beijing. 14:41:24 <topol> tongli sounds good 14:41:43 <markvoelker> garloff: generally, if we're finding things that we have to work around in the workloads b/c they're not interoperable those are good candidates for analysis as to why 14:41:50 * topol just an FYI, I need to end this meeting 10 minutes early today 14:42:03 <topol> markvoelker +++ 14:42:18 <markvoelker> garloff: also, API-level analysis of what we're actually using in the workloads to see how they compare to what's in the guidelines 14:42:37 <garloff> markvoelker: Great, that's what I was hoping ... 14:43:17 <topol> markvoelker, Excellent! 14:43:29 <garloff> Let's make sure we close that loop, so we have a weak correspondence here. Like passing DefCore means passing InterOp Challenge is easy. 14:44:30 <topol> garloff, makes sense. Or put another way, if your OpenStack environment can run all our workloads you got a pretty good OpenStack environment 14:44:57 <topol> garloff nice to have real workloads to verify 14:45:33 <topol> any other topics for today? 14:46:30 <garloff> topol: Exactly -- InterOp comes more from a bottom up view, while IOp Challenge more top down 14:46:49 <topol> garloff, yep! 14:47:10 <topol> OK, if folks are okay with this I will give you 13 minutes back 14:47:19 <topol> Thanks everyone for participating 14:47:24 <tongli> @topol, thanks. good day 14:47:37 <topol> #endmeeting