14:01:30 <topol> #startmeeting interop_challenge 14:01:31 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Apr 19 14:01:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is topol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:32 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:34 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge' 14:01:52 <topol> Hi everyone, who is here for the interop challenge meeting today? 14:02:08 <ksumit> Here! 14:02:11 <skazi_> o/ 14:02:22 <HelenYao_> o/ 14:02:24 <rarcea> o/ 14:02:25 <vkmc> o/ 14:02:28 <mnaser> o/ 14:02:35 <dmellado> o/ 14:02:36 <zhipeng> o/ 14:02:45 <topol> Tong Li is in China today and not able to connect to IRC so I'm running the meeting today 14:03:11 <topol> The agenda for today can be found at: 14:03:12 <topol> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-04-19 14:03:12 <topol> We can use this same etherpad to take notes 14:03:17 <zhipeng> Tong is in Beijing ? 14:04:22 <topol> Yes I believe so. The big Open Source conference being held there 14:04:52 <zhipeng> yeah i'm here as well 14:04:54 <zhipeng> lol 14:05:01 <dmellado> zhipeng: just grab him along xD 14:05:07 <topol> Look for him! 14:05:21 <zhipeng> gotta do that tmr 14:05:39 * topol tongli needs to learn zhipeng magic tricks for conencting to irc from China 14:05:41 <zhipeng> topol will Mark be here today ? 14:05:55 <topol> zhipeng not sure. I dont think so 14:06:02 <topol> Agenda: 14:06:02 <topol> #topic Review last meeting action items 14:06:02 <topol> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-04-12-14.01.html 14:06:20 <zhipeng> i think last week Mark said he could review the demo this week ? 14:06:41 <topol> zhipeng which demo? 14:06:48 <topol> NFV one? 14:07:00 <zhipeng> yep 14:07:29 <topol> K, will have to take an action item on that unless Mark shows up 14:07:34 <topol> sparkcollier? 14:07:45 <topol> sparkycollier 14:08:04 <topol> so here is what I have 14:08:04 <zhipeng> sparkycollier_ 14:08:12 <topol> please required information on the boston onstage etherpad. 14:08:12 <topol> Identify if your cloud is public or private on the boston onstage etherpad. 14:08:13 <topol> Identify if your cloud will be able to allow access on port 26257 14:08:14 <topol> Remember to identify phase 1 only folks so they get screen time as well 14:08:42 <beisner> o/ 14:08:59 <dmellado> o/ hey topol, check the etherpad, I've added some topics there too 14:09:00 <dmellado> ;) 14:09:17 <dmellado> should we go quickly over the in-review patches 14:09:18 <dmellado> ? 14:09:35 <topol> dmellado sure. 14:09:50 <mnaser> fyi anyone who wants to put that information - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-boston-onstage 14:09:51 <topol> the only thing Iwanted to mention is #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-boston-onstage 14:10:09 <topol> only has 13 folks. we are missing 3. Tamara wants those added ASAP 14:10:42 <dmellado> topol: pls do note that basically vkmc and me are each other backup 14:10:42 <topol> but demallado go ahead with the in-review patches 14:10:55 <dmellado> but we'd love to make it so both of us have access and so ;) 14:10:58 <dmellado> so on the patches 14:11:04 <dmellado> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/interop-workloads,n,z 14:11:20 <topol> dmellado noted. so you won't both be on stage/ 14:11:30 <dmellado> from my side I'd love to have some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457199/ 14:11:44 <dmellado> topol: yep, exactly, but we'd need access granted for both of us, just in case 14:12:07 <topol> #action all please review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457199/ 14:12:51 <dmellado> on the NFV from zhipeng, could you please rebase it? a recent change has put it on merge conflict ;) 14:12:57 <dmellado> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439492/ 14:13:02 <topol> #action dmellado and vkmc please email tamara and let her know your alls intentions and cc topol and tongli 14:13:09 <dmellado> will do ;) 14:13:12 <zhipeng> helen could do it 14:13:30 <vkmc> :) 14:13:47 <HelenYao_> dmellado: sure, I will solve the conflict 14:14:13 <dmellado> topol: on your side I'm not sure if you'd like to make some comments on here 14:14:15 <dmellado> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456446/ 14:14:25 <dmellado> I guess phase2 would depend on it, isn't it? 14:14:28 <topol> dmellado I'll take a look 14:15:21 <dmellado> Anyone wants to comment any another patches? 14:15:27 <dmellado> topol: thanks! 14:15:35 <topol> dmellado why was centOS support needed? 14:15:49 <mnaser> a silly randomness... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454711/ 14:15:53 <dmellado> topol: I wanted to add that on top of only having ubuntu/coreOS 14:15:53 <topol> the cockroach guys need it? 14:15:59 <mnaser> (which i really really had to fix because i cant stand messed up rst links :D) 14:16:06 <dmellado> basically to mimic what's on the upstream openstack CI 14:16:34 <dmellado> rarcea: I'm not sure if you'd be interested on adding opensuse there too 14:16:35 <topol> dmellado do you plan to run centos on stage? 14:16:59 <dmellado> topol: well, I guess we'll all have to agree on the same image, but wanted to discuss that too 14:17:00 <rarcea> dmellado: might be a good idea, but short on time 14:17:15 <topol> rarcea +++ 14:17:24 <mnaser> rarcea ++ 14:17:30 <topol> short on time is correct 14:17:44 <topol> I will do a review 14:17:48 <dmellado> thanks topol 14:17:50 <mnaser> we need to make sure this is as stable as it gets and freeze it to avoid on-stage embarassements :X 14:18:02 <topol> hoping the patch doesnt break what we have :-) 14:18:27 <dmellado> well, documentation should be good, and we have at least CI for it xD 14:18:31 <topol> mnaser. yes exactly. Need to goto critical fix only very soon 14:19:11 <dmellado> should we go to the next topic? 14:19:22 <topol> tongli and I fly to Austin next week for rehearsal. Will be hard to get us to add anything new after that 14:19:33 <topol> dmellado. sure 14:19:34 <dmellado> gotcha 14:19:38 <dmellado> #topic Issues with cockroachdb container image 14:19:43 <dmellado> I sent an email to tongli about this 14:19:50 <dmellado> but it seems that there's a bug on the cockroach image 14:19:56 <vkmc> so everything that is going to be on the summit has to be merged before next week? 14:20:08 <dmellado> #link https://hub.docker.com/r/cockroachdb/cockroach-k8s-init/ 14:20:12 <vkmc> this includes tongli's patch on having a multicluster cockroach db deploy 14:20:17 <topol> vkmc that would be my preference 14:20:26 <topol> but I may get outvoted if need be 14:20:29 <dmellado> hmm maybe we'll be short on time for that... 14:20:39 <dmellado> so, on here I propose to deprecate the var of custom domain name 14:20:49 <topol> I'll check with Tongli to see what he's comfortable with 14:20:49 <dmellado> as it makes the cockroachdb unable to deploy 14:20:52 <mnaser> if the multicluster doesnt get merged, it means phase 2 of the demo doesn't happen 14:20:55 <dmellado> idk if anyone tried that 14:21:10 <topol> mnaser then we need to merge that 14:21:20 <dmellado> #action review phase 2 patch (all) 14:21:32 <sparkycollier_> Sorry I'm late y'all 14:21:33 <topol> obviously anything needed for phase 2 we will need to get merged 14:21:45 <topol> hi sparkycollier_ 14:21:59 <dmellado> o/ 14:22:03 <topol> some folks thought they were going to show you a demo today? 14:22:13 <sparkycollier_> Oh I'm sorry 14:22:26 <dmellado> topol: if it's going to be like that maybe we should send a FF email to the ml, with the agreed date 14:22:27 <sparkycollier_> I am in a car 14:22:54 <topol> dmellado are we not close? 14:23:05 <mnaser> dmellado ++ 14:23:06 <dmellado> we are totally close 14:23:13 <topol> sparkycollier. maybe demo next week then? 14:23:18 <mnaser> i think having a hard cutoff would be good 14:23:23 <dmellado> but IMHO it'd be cool to have this done so folks are aware 14:23:50 <topol> whats a cutoff date everyone finds reasonable? 14:24:11 <sparkycollier_> Sure next week is good 14:24:12 <topol> Tong and I have rehersals next Tuesday 14:24:33 <sparkycollier_> We can just view it next week in Austin during rehearsal 14:24:42 <sparkycollier_> I will be there 14:24:56 <dmellado> so let's assume 1 week 14:24:58 <dmellado> at least 14:25:06 <dmellado> does this sound reasonable to all? 14:25:22 <mnaser> so that means that on the next meeting 14:25:49 <mnaser> we close things out and dont touch the code anymore (barring major issues) 14:25:52 <mnaser> i think that's reasonable. it gives us one more meeting before the event as well to run through things 14:25:54 <topol> mnaser lets try and freeze stuff by next meeting 14:26:02 <dmellado> +1 14:26:03 <vkmc> I think that's reasonable 14:26:09 <dmellado> topol: will you be sending the email then? 14:26:09 <ksumit> +1 14:26:11 <dmellado> ;) 14:26:18 <topol> dmellado sure 14:26:26 <mnaser> and then for the may 3rd meeting, it would be nice if everyone ran the workload after the 26th freeze 14:26:33 <mnaser> so that on the 3rd, we can discuss any bugs anyone ran into 14:27:06 <mnaser> and then on the 3rd hopefully we have no bugs and everything is 100% frozen till the demo date 14:27:29 <topol> #action topol to send we freeze demo on the 26th email to the list and on the 3rd discuss any bugs 14:27:41 <dmellado> should we go ahead? 14:27:54 <mnaser> i think it makes sense 14:27:57 <topol> who wanted to demo NFV to sparkycollier_ 14:28:08 <HelenYao_> topol: me 14:28:09 <zhipeng_> me and helen I think 14:28:27 <sparkycollier_> Ah ok I forgot it was for nfv 14:28:54 <sparkycollier_> I'll be at a computer in about 10 minutes if that's not too late 14:28:58 <sparkycollier_> Or we can do it next week 14:29:16 <topol> I rather do that in 10 minutes 14:29:22 <zhipeng_> agree 14:29:27 <topol> next week I think will be packed 14:29:31 <sparkycollier_> Ok great 14:29:43 <topol> ping us when you are at a computer 14:29:46 <sparkycollier_> K 14:29:54 <topol> next item 14:30:02 <dmellado> #topic Make sure all folks who plan to demo are on the onstage etherpad. we should have 16 listed. 14:30:08 <dmellado> I guess you asked for this before, topol 14:30:19 <dmellado> but pls anyone who still hasn't signed up there, do so 14:30:33 <topol> yes. yes I did. we are missing 4 I think 14:30:53 <dmellado> #topic Identify which cloud can demo phase 2. 14:30:57 <topol> since you and vkmc are one really 14:31:05 <dmellado> we've got this tracked on the etherpad 14:31:14 <topol> K 14:31:16 <dmellado> but it'd be cool to identify which public clouds are around 14:31:48 <dmellado> and regarding this idk if we'll be in a rush 14:31:49 <mnaser> o/ public cloud 14:31:50 <topol> #topic Clouds should start record their workload run results. 14:32:05 <topol> mnaser fdid you putthat on the etherpad 14:32:09 <mnaser> yep :) 14:32:19 <topol> mnaser gold star! awesome 14:32:36 <daniela_ebert> already done and recorded at the etherpad ;) 14:32:45 <dmellado> so, on this topic I guess you refer to the wiki 14:32:47 <topol> everyone please start trying to runt he workloads. we always hit surprieses 14:33:00 <topol> dmellado ++ 14:33:11 <dmellado> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge 14:33:17 <mnaser> on that note, do we have a 'backup' plan at all for if things go wrong? 14:33:27 <mnaser> (murphy's law) 14:33:28 <dmellado> mnaser: we just go for beers 14:33:29 <dmellado> xD 14:33:50 <mnaser> lol! 14:33:54 <sparkycollier_> I'll just have the beers brought out 14:34:02 <mnaser> i dont know what everyone thinks but i was thinking that we have 2 tenants on clouds 14:34:10 <vkmc> topol, dmellado and I are two different engineers, he is not my alter ego 14:34:10 <mnaser> we do a deploy beforehand and leave it, then do one live 14:34:20 <mnaser> if the live works, great, if not, then we can just show the already deployed 14:34:26 <dmellado> lol 14:34:38 <dmellado> vkmc: what he meant by that is that we won't be both of us at the stage 14:34:44 <dmellado> unless you want to join the fun xD 14:34:48 <vkmc> dmellado, oh yes, that would be awkward 14:34:51 <topol> of course I like vkmc. I can just barely tolerate dmellado :-) 14:34:59 <dmellado> lol 14:35:06 <topol> j/k 14:35:10 <vkmc> lol 14:35:13 <zhipeng_> for nfv demo, please join https://zoom.us/j/333408319 14:35:49 <mnaser> so any input on the "backup environment" idea or everyone's 100% confident? 14:35:57 <topol> so where did folks add public? I dont see it on the wiki 14:36:22 <dmellado> topol: it's on the etherpad, I assume that anyone listed there for phase2 should be count as 'public' 14:36:23 <mnaser> oh i dont see it on the wiki but i see it on the interop challenge etherpad 14:36:51 <topol> ok lets all make sure we update in the same place. which is? 14:36:59 <mnaser> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-boston-onstage 14:37:17 <topol> mnaser YES! #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-boston-onstage 14:37:22 <topol> put it there 14:37:53 <topol> I need to go thru and find the 3 folks on the wiki that arent on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-boston-onstage 14:38:26 <topol> with my diff skills that could only take an hour or two :-0 14:38:37 <mnaser> silly question but how come there's two people from redhat? 14:38:45 <dmellado> mnaser: scroll up 14:38:50 <dmellado> we're not two of us at the same time 14:38:59 <topol> mnaser I think they are worried one wont make the prep meeting? 14:39:04 <dmellado> we put our details as vkmc will be backing me up in case ;) 14:39:09 * mnaser totally knew that 14:39:19 <mnaser> just testing everyone's attention, onto the rest 14:39:22 <vkmc> I'm the backup! 14:39:34 <topol> they will flip a coin to see who gets on stage. its like the preshow 14:39:47 <vkmc> haha 14:39:55 <topol> Here was the note from Tamara and then I think we should do the demo 14:40:00 <topol> that was my last topic 14:40:26 <dmellado> Here I added another one 14:40:27 <topol> Hi Tong - 14:40:27 <topol> I’d like to schedule the Interop Demo Tech on Sunday, May 7th as follows: 14:40:27 <topol> Arrive: 3:15pm 14:40:29 <topol> Tech 3:25-3:55pm 14:40:31 <topol> If there are a few people who cannot arrive right at 3:15pm, that will be fine since it takes some time to get everyone plugged in & up / running in our system. 14:40:33 <topol> Decision we have made during the meeting: 14:40:35 <topol> 14:40:37 <topol> 1. phase 1 of the demo is to stand up kubernetes cluster on top of openstack. every cloud can participate. 14:40:39 <topol> 2. phase 2 of the demo is to create a cockroachdb cluster on top of k8s across multiple clouds, hope all clouds can join. 14:40:41 <topol> 3. work on the app so that running cockroachdb cluster will have some load to show actitivites on the cockroachdb dashboard. 14:40:43 <topol> 4. create a simple app for clouds to get the IP information about the first cockroachdb node so that they can join. 14:40:45 <topol> 5. that simple app will be started before the demo so that that IP can be used in all cloud workload configuration 14:41:07 <dmellado> I'm concerned about how log would this last if we need to run both phase 1 and 2 taking into consideration that this lasts for around 10' each 14:41:22 <dmellado> shouldn't we settle for phase1 and check on the demo day if phase2 would be feasible 14:41:24 <dmellado> ? 14:41:51 <topol> Tong and I will be with sparkycollier next week testing out the flow 14:42:08 <topol> there are ways we can speed up phase 2 14:42:20 <topol> can do cooking show if necessary 14:42:26 <mnaser> topol ++ 14:42:37 <dmellado> mybe just not respawning the whole k8s cluster but deploying an additional pod 14:42:39 <dmellado> for the phase 2 14:42:50 <topol> sparkycollier_ you in front of a computer yet? 14:43:00 <sparkycollier_> i'm on a computer now 14:43:16 <zhipeng_> please join https://zoom.us/j/333408319 14:43:33 <topol> K, lets all switch to zoom 14:58:30 <topol> #endmeeting