16:00:21 <markvoelker> #startmeeting interopwg
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16:00:32 <markvoelker> #chair hogepodge eglute
16:00:33 <openstack> Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker
16:00:54 <markvoelker> Anyone around for InteropWG today? =)
16:01:02 <mguiney> o/
16:01:10 <markvoelker> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.16 Today's agenda
16:01:32 * markvoelker waves at mguiney
16:01:57 * mguiney waves back
16:02:04 <markvoelker> Please take a minute to look over the agenda and see if anything's missing
16:02:09 <hogepodge> I'm only partially available for the meeting today. On mobile at a hospital. Nothing to worry about everything is fine.
16:02:29 <eglute> o/
16:02:34 <markvoelker> hogepodge: ack
16:03:05 <markvoelker> Ok, let's dive in....
16:03:20 <markvoelker> #topic Denver PTG
16:03:33 <markvoelker> We had a couple of actions to follow-up on from Denver.
16:03:55 <Rockyg> o/
16:04:14 <markvoelker> The ones listed here had to do with microversioning
16:04:24 <markvoelker> (e.g. do we need it in the schema and what should that look like)
16:05:00 <markvoelker> Here's the etherpad from the microversion session in Denver by the way:
16:05:08 <markvoelker> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Microversions Etherpad for Microversion Session
16:06:04 <markvoelker> hogepodge is only partly available today, but I don't think I've seen anything further on this yet so I'll assume it's on his backlog. =)
16:06:22 <eglute> markvoelker i think you are right!
16:06:35 <hogepodge> Nothing new
16:06:37 <eglute> though, cinder will also require microversion support
16:06:51 <eglute> so maybe mguiney can help with that as well?
16:07:09 <mguiney> be glad to help, if needed
16:07:18 <eglute> oh, i am jumping ahead. that would be maybe for microversion matrix
16:07:20 <eglute> sorry
16:07:45 <markvoelker> Eh, they're intertwined
16:07:49 <mguiney> though i really need to sit down and figure out what all is on my docket, rather than free-form juggling, as I have been
16:08:03 <hogepodge> We have the initial versions. I need to provide a schemas update
16:08:53 <markvoelker> Nifty.  We'll look for that when it posts then.  OK, anything further on this?
16:09:35 <eglute> not from me
16:09:43 <markvoelker> Moving on then...
16:09:51 <markvoelker> #topic OpenStack Summit Sydney
16:10:10 <markvoelker> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19867/interop-working-group?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fsydney-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3DEgle%23eventid%3D19867 Interop WG Forum session
16:10:40 <eglute> I will not be attending this summit... markvoelker and hogepodge will take the lead for interop things in Sydney
16:10:48 <markvoelker> #info There will be an InteropWG session during the Forum on Tuesdeay 1:50-2:30pm in C2.4
16:11:24 <markvoelker> eglute: ++, I'll start working up some content.  BTW, who do we talk to about updating the schedule entry?
16:11:42 <hogepodge> If you have any other forum topics please submit them for consideration
16:12:07 <eglute> markvoelker i am not sure, i will email someone, i think they have a speaker mailing list
16:13:14 <markvoelker> Ok.  If there are other sessions of interest for interop folks, feel free to stick them in the pad here folks.
16:13:25 <eglute> thanks markvoelker
16:13:44 * markvoelker is planning to briefly mention some of the new stuff we're working on during another talk
16:14:28 <markvoelker> Ok, on to...
16:14:39 <markvoelker> #topic Vertical Program Update
16:15:05 <markvoelker> At the PTG we winnowed down the list of potential inclusions to a shorter list
16:15:17 <markvoelker> There's a pad from that session here for reference:
16:15:36 <markvoelker> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Verticals Pad from Verticals Session at PTG
16:16:06 <markvoelker> I've also received some helpful info from folks involved with various NFV communities (ONAP, OPNFV, ETSI)
16:16:20 <markvoelker> There are a couple of links in the etherpad today that folks may want to pick through at their leisure
16:17:40 <markvoelker> I'm also going to be attending an OPNFV testing sig meeting this week
16:17:53 <markvoelker> Feel free to join if you're interested: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/Test+Working+Group+Weekly+Meeting
16:18:14 <markvoelker> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/Test+Working+Group+Weekly+Meeting TEst Working Group Weekly meeting (will discuss OPNFV/OpenStack collaboration this week)
16:18:34 <Rockyg> Time?
16:18:49 <markvoelker> Rockyg: September 28th 3 PM UTC
16:19:05 <eglute> markvoelker what will be discussed there? specifically openstack things, or?
16:19:42 <markvoelker> Eglute: how we might formalize some collaboration between OPNFV and OpenStack on testing and interop
16:19:57 <Rockyg> The refstack panel on refstack and OPNFV is now up on the forum session board.
16:19:59 <markvoelker> BAsically some of the stuff we've talked with Georg et al about in the past
16:20:18 <eglute> oh cool! i think it might be worthwhile to send that to the mailing list as well
16:20:39 <Rockyg> catherineD won't be at summit, so it could use someone who knows it, like hogepodge
16:21:28 <markvoelker> From the agenda link I posted: Cross collaboration with OpenStack * What could/should be upstream? * Long duration/resiliency/robustness strategy * Plugfest: common activities * ...
16:21:44 <Rockyg> And we agreed there should be a working session to layout what is needed in refstack.  Even if we have nobody yet to do the work
16:21:45 <markvoelker> Sure
16:22:44 <markvoelker> Past all that, I've also been working on distilling what we talked about in Denver and the pointers I received from various NFV folks into a first pass at scoring.  It's looking like I can get a draft posted this week (Famous Last Words)
16:22:51 <hogepodge> I need scheduling information to see if I can fit it into my schedule
16:23:02 <Rockyg> fantastic
16:23:18 <hogepodge> No promises
16:23:37 <hogepodge> Please forward it to me by email that would be helpful
16:24:05 <markvoelker> Ok, I think that about it does it for my update...anything else?
16:24:47 <eglute> nope
16:25:06 <markvoelker> #topic 2018.01 Scoring
16:25:29 <markvoelker> I see we have an early draft on Swift up already...nice work mguiney!
16:25:49 <mguiney> there's actually a change I may make to the current patch
16:25:56 <markvoelker> The rest of you laggards get to work (/me wags finger at self)
16:26:02 <markvoelker> =p
16:26:10 <mguiney> not a ton has changed, though, as far as scorable capabilites in swift go
16:26:34 <markvoelker> mguiney: Cool.  I wouldn't expect to see a lot of churn here, it's a pretty stable set now.
16:27:13 <notmyname> mguiney: although I'm (still) not super comfortable with the giant scoring tables (familiarity, not disdain), I'm happy to help with swift stuff as you have questions
16:28:19 <mguiney> notmyname: thank you, i am going to review it myself and see if i have any lingering questions
16:29:01 <markvoelker> I'll be reaching out to a few folks on scoring hopefully this week, but I've been putting a little more time into the verticals stuff since I'm not expecting drastic changes in Neutron.
16:29:24 <markvoelker> Anyone else have scoring updates/questions?
16:30:09 <mguiney> as mentioned in the doc, cinder is microversioned now, so that may have to wait a sec, as far as scoring goes
16:31:34 <hogepodge> The scoring can be independent of the schema. We know max version
16:31:53 <mguiney> ah alright... will get that underway, then
16:32:17 <hogepodge> So can consider the new capabilities.
16:33:14 <markvoelker> Just as a general reminder too, we'll be looking at stuff supported as far back as Newton for this round
16:33:52 <markvoelker> Ok, moving along to add-on programs
16:34:03 <markvoelker> #topic Add-on Programs
16:34:17 <markvoelker> hogepodge: I know you have limited availability today, but anything you want to update us on?
16:34:30 <hogepodge> No
16:34:35 <hogepodge> Th
16:34:54 <markvoelker> Ok, we'll move along then
16:35:04 <markvoelker> #topic Future project consultation
16:35:14 <markvoelker> Nothing new to report here yet for me
16:35:17 <markvoelker> ANyone else?
16:35:46 <eglute> not here :)
16:36:15 <markvoelker> Ok, last agenda item then
16:36:29 <markvoelker> #topic Shoutouts to folks already passing 2017.09
16:36:51 <Rockyg> cool!
16:36:53 <markvoelker> Just an FYI, I counted 4 vendors whose Marketplace entries have already been updated to reflect 2017.09 as of this morning
16:36:54 <eglute> :D
16:37:00 <eglute> nice
16:37:10 <markvoelker> So, pretty neat to see folks getting this done so soon after the Guideline was approved
16:37:16 <Rockyg> can we get ml post on this?
16:37:27 <markvoelker> Rockyg: sure if you write one. =-p
16:37:49 <Rockyg> I'd like to highlight it for some folks.
16:37:49 <markvoelker> #topic Open Floor
16:38:05 <markvoelker> Rockyg: go for it
16:38:05 <Rockyg> Just need the list and I'll write.
16:38:20 <markvoelker> AFAIK it was SUSE, VMware, Hyper-C, and Incloud
16:38:32 <markvoelker> (as of this morning)
16:38:36 <Rockyg> Is there a place anyone can find a condensed list?
16:38:40 <hogepodge> We're doing a major push to get all entries up to date for Sydney
16:39:07 <markvoelker> RockyG: just browse https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/
16:39:26 <hogepodge> Some vendors who don't update will be dropped with expired contracts
16:39:30 <Rockyg> What about the public cloud that already has pike running?
16:39:55 <Rockyg> Good info, hogepodge
16:40:02 <markvoelker> Rockyg: see https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/public-clouds/ (none listed with 2017.09....yet)
16:40:27 <Rockyg> ok
16:42:05 <markvoelker> On a mildly-related topic, I noticed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507695/ (preliminary patch to disable anonymous test uploads), so folks who are working on 2017.09 compliance may want to take that as an extra nudge to set up SSH keys now. =)
16:42:39 <markvoelker> Docs here if you haven't seen them already: https://github.com/openstack/refstack/blob/master/doc/source/uploading_private_results.rst
16:42:48 <eglute> thanks markvoelker
16:42:56 <eglute> and hogepodge
16:43:01 <markvoelker> OK, anything else folks want to bring up?
16:43:17 <markvoelker> IF not I think we can wrap up early...
16:43:21 <Rockyg> K.  that's something else to put in the email
16:46:06 <hogepodge> Yes, working out the best way to disable anonymous uploads as part of our ongoing efforts for compliance tracking
16:46:17 <hogepodge> It's time
16:46:29 <hogepodge> But we'll give warning
16:47:36 <markvoelker> OK gang, I think that's it for this week's edition...see you next week, same bat-time, same bat-channel
16:47:40 <markvoelker> #endmeeting