16:00:53 #startmeeting interopwg 16:00:54 Meeting started Wed Oct 31 16:00:53 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:57 The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' 16:00:58 markvoelker: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. 16:01:04 o/ 16:01:12 heh, perfect timing markvoelker :D 16:01:19 #chair markvoelker hogepodge 16:01:20 Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker 16:01:27 #topic agenda 16:01:39 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.21 16:02:17 anyone else here for interop meeting? 16:02:53 * markvoelker notes that Halloween is upon us and folks may be off spookin 16:03:42 * eglute has no scary costume 16:03:54 I saw hogepodge submit a patch earlier today 16:04:28 Keystone some capabilities to talk about. 16:04:53 the most interesting one is token-delete, we don't have a capability for it but there is a test that arrived 16:04:54 cool thanks hogepodge 16:04:55 #topic time change 16:05:01 #topic keystone 16:05:03 thanks hogepodge 16:05:11 #link 16:05:14 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614553/1 16:05:43 hogepodge do you want to add that to 2018.11 guideline? 16:06:03 we havent created it yet, so if you submit a patch with tests, i think we can still add as advisory 16:07:00 Hm, I don't think any of those new capabilities met the bar though did they? Scores are all too low. 16:07:53 the score for identity-v3-tokens-validate got updated 16:08:04 It was already included anyway though 16:08:10 ah ok 16:08:21 thats what i get reviewing before enough coffee 16:08:26 thanks markvoelker and hogepodge 16:08:54 ok, then no new capabilities for keystone to be added 16:08:57 The scoring is mostly preliminary, wanted to bring it up to your attention. 16:09:24 tokens-validate was in last release, so it got an update 16:09:34 yeah, i missed that part 16:09:51 Thanks...just from a quick eyeballing, seems about right to me. Will have a closer look later. 16:09:54 password update is also there, although Luz made some comments previously that it may conflict with public cloud password policies 16:10:32 application credentials should be available for either the T or U release (first appeared in queens) 16:10:49 so to me, token delete is the biggest question right now 16:11:24 but, it still hasnt scored high enough, correct? 16:13:50 I wasn't sure if it's used widely by tools. 16:14:07 As scored now it doesn't...but it might if we called it proximate to identity-v3-tokens-create and identity-v3-tokens-validate I think 16:14:14 Or about Foundational (that one could probably be switched to 1) 16:14:54 ok, so the score could go up and we could add it as advisory 16:15:15 Foundational probably should be 1, since it's pretty important to be able to revoke compromised tokens. 16:15:47 right 16:16:10 i think we can update to 1 and include it as advisory 16:16:33 Makes sense to me 16:16:41 I just sent the scoring up, and can add a capability after the meeting. 16:16:49 Seems like a good thing to get into advisory 16:17:37 cool, lets do it 16:17:41 thank you hogepodge 16:17:47 thanks, sorry for taking so long 16:18:54 np. i think everyone is super busy with a lot of other things 16:19:10 #topic guideline 2018.11 16:19:22 do we need to review anything else for 2018.11? 16:19:43 Just keystone patch coming in later today. 16:19:47 ok, 16:19:59 There's also a keystone capability that has one flagged test 16:19:59 then we need to create the actual patch for 2018.11 16:20:27 When we create the patch, we need to update the gate to include 2018.11 in the consistency checks 16:20:35 One other outstanding item is a patch moving the heat stuff from advisory->required for the heat add-on. I keep forgetting to actually get that done. =p Will fix. 16:20:54 ok thank you hogepodge and markvoelker 16:21:45 anything else on the guideline? 16:22:54 #topic meeting time 16:22:59 I am traveling next week, and after that we will meet at the summit 16:23:40 Speaking of: it looks like I'll miss a chunk of the BoD meeting due to when my flight gets in. Is everyone else going to be there? 16:24:01 I'll be at the BoD meeting, arriving on Sunday. 16:24:01 Yes, i am planning on getting there on Sunday 16:25:02 so the next meeting will be in a month or so, though i would propose no meetings for the rest of the year unless we have business to take care of 16:25:23 +1 16:25:30 works for me 16:25:51 Between post-summit vacation and holiday, KubeCon, and end of year holidays, I'm probably booked up and distracted 16:25:58 cool, i will send an email at some point to that regard 16:26:13 yeah, i need to take a lot of time off to use up my time off 16:26:57 there will also be the time change, is it ok to keep it at UTC 16:00? we can also revisit next year 16:27:34 I think I'm good with keeping 16:00, but can do either. 16:27:59 cool, will revisit next year to make sure 16:28:01 I should be fine 16:28:09 #topic board report 16:28:53 I will start working on the board report today and send you the link to add anything that is needed. Since I will be traveling, I will try to get most of it done this week 16:28:58 so i will appreciate any help you can provide :) 16:29:23 +1 16:29:53 #topic summit 16:30:04 we have a session at the summit, thanks hogepodge! 16:30:54 i created etherpad: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropBerlin2018 16:30:55 please add topics 16:31:25 anything else for today? 16:31:42 Yes 16:32:12 go ahead hogepodge 16:32:33 Looking fwd to seeing you all in Berlin :-) 16:32:53 same here garloff! Thanks for hosting us for the board meeting! 16:33:03 I’ll be meeting with a Chinese agency that wants to start setting standards for public clouds in a China. I’ll be encouraging adoption of Interop guidelines and contributions 16:33:15 hogepodge wow thats huge 16:33:27 It’s all preliminary 16:34:57 hogepodge cool, are they going to be attending the berlin summit? we can setup a meeting if they are 16:34:58 Our new hire who is based in China, Horace, is the lead on those conversations 16:35:12 hogepodge: Let's make sure we'll end up with one worldwide standard ... 16:35:15 We’re working on setting up the meetings 16:35:22 hogepodge sounds good! 16:35:46 garloff yes, for openstack, there are only our interop standards 16:37:32 good -- if they want to go beyond what we're currently standardizing, we should try to adopt their needs as opposed to having something that's then only adopted in China ... 16:37:46 That's what I was trying to express. 16:37:51 Anyhow, good discussion for Berlin 16:38:23 garloff very true! 16:38:27 anything else for today? 16:38:38 garloff: yes, that's the goal, to adopt InteropWG guidelines as a baseline and contribute to the activities of the WG 16:41:04 thanks everybody! 16:41:24 alright, if nothing else, danke schön! 16:41:38 #endmeeting