19:00:02 <NobodyCam> #startmeeting Ironic
19:00:03 <NobodyCam> #chair devananda
19:00:03 <NobodyCam> Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting.
19:00:04 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Aug  4 19:00:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:00:07 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
19:00:08 <openstack> Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda
19:00:13 <NobodyCam> Of course the agenda can be found at:
19:00:13 <NobodyCam> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting
19:00:16 <devananda> o/
19:00:19 <lucasagomes> :)
19:00:20 <jroll> \o
19:00:21 <rloo> o/
19:00:21 <NobodyCam> #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements
19:00:21 <NobodyCam> Roll-call: Who's here for the Ironic Meeting?
19:00:34 <devananda> hi al! I'm sick today, so NobodyCam is gonna run the meeting. But I'm here and might chime in
19:00:40 <dtantsur> o/
19:00:42 <romcheg1> \o
19:00:42 <BadCub> I am here
19:00:49 <Shrews> hey hey
19:01:08 <matty_dubs> \o
19:01:15 <NobodyCam> devananda: I'll  have bits for you
19:01:19 <NobodyCam> announcements:
19:01:22 <NobodyCam> we had a great mid cycle meetup, Great to see everyone
19:01:39 <NobodyCam> we added new spec team core members: JayF, jroll, and NobodyCam
19:01:40 <lucasagomes> +1
19:01:46 <dtantsur> \o/
19:01:49 <NobodyCam> congratz to the J's
19:01:51 <rloo> yay!
19:02:22 <NobodyCam> A big thank you to Intel for hosting the meetup
19:02:56 <jroll> and congrats to you, too, NobodyCam :)
19:02:58 <NobodyCam> any one have anythong for the announcements section
19:03:06 <matty_dubs> anythong? o_O
19:03:08 <jroll> IPA driver landed \o/
19:03:09 <NobodyCam> *(BLUSH)* :)
19:03:21 <NobodyCam> well so I can't type
19:03:22 <dtantsur> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/
19:03:28 <devananda> jroll: \o/
19:03:37 <NobodyCam> jroll: awesome ... Great work
19:03:47 <devananda> looks like all projects with specs now have an official doc site
19:03:51 <devananda> #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/
19:04:28 <devananda> also, since our last onlnie meeting, the J2 milestone was tagged
19:04:43 <NobodyCam> very cool,  I as I have been asked a couple of times I thought I would post this link:
19:04:48 <NobodyCam> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/352,members
19:04:52 <devananda> #info J2 milestone tagged last week, but it does NOT work with J2 Nova milestone.
19:05:02 <jroll> O.o
19:05:09 <jroll> why not?
19:05:10 <NobodyCam> devananda: did we also have a new client release?
19:05:30 <devananda> there was a patch landed in Nova which broke Ironic (and some other hypervisors), then reverted a day later, but the Noav J2 milestone was tagged during that window
19:05:37 <wanyen> the ironic-specs is for Juno 2 or juno3
19:05:46 <jroll> aha, I figured that was it
19:05:48 <devananda> NobodyCam: no... I was going to do that friday, but E_SICK
19:05:55 <NobodyCam> :)
19:06:08 <lucasagomes> :/
19:06:20 * devananda does that now
19:06:25 <NobodyCam> devananda: :)
19:06:29 <lucasagomes> should we backport that patch to j2? or not needed?
19:06:32 <rloo> wanyen: the ironic specs is for juno.
19:06:33 <jroll> bah, I wanted to sneak a patch in :P
19:06:42 <devananda> lucasagomes: can't. milestone tags are not updatable
19:06:51 <lucasagomes> i c
19:06:54 <devananda> lucasagomes: and it's OK -- it's just a milestone. not the final release.
19:07:21 <NobodyCam> this leads us right into:
19:07:21 <lucasagomes> ack, yeah not a big deal
19:07:22 <NobodyCam> #topic Release cycle progress report
19:07:32 <wanyen> is ironic going to approve more specs for Juno?
19:07:33 <NobodyCam> devananda: any more to add
19:07:52 <devananda> so this is the section I wanted to prepare for, but again E_SICK, so I apologize to everyone
19:08:21 * devananda finds his links
19:09:08 <devananda> I updated the planning spreadsheet last week
19:09:22 <devananda> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hxyfy60hN_Fit0b-plsPzK6yW3ePQC5IfwuzJwltlbo
19:09:39 <devananda> and we discussed how to continue planning things during K release
19:09:50 <wanyen> I did not see iLO virtual media iscsi and IPA deploy and UEFI spec on the Juno spec list.  Thsese specs are onteh Juno target list before.
19:10:09 <devananda> this isn't to say things not on there CANT land, but it's extremely unlikely as we have a short crunch deadline with Noav to land the driver
19:10:17 <jroll> wanyen: they are on there
19:10:17 <devananda> wanyen: correct. see ^
19:10:27 <devananda> wanyen: iLO is on there
19:10:30 <devananda> wanyen: but UEFI is not
19:10:37 <jroll> yes it is
19:10:40 <devananda> actually it is
19:10:42 <jroll> line 22
19:10:49 * devananda has a very high fever. don't listen to what I'm saying
19:11:02 <NobodyCam> :(
19:11:18 <devananda> NobodyCam: right. I'm going to stop now as I'm probably not making sense. Please continue.
19:11:20 <jroll> insert "ironic is a cmdb after all" joke
19:11:43 * NobodyCam shoots jroll (with nerf gun)
19:11:48 <dtantsur> I hope no one is cancelling autodiscovery at all...
19:12:01 <wanyen> okay.  Thanks!  So this list is differnt from the juno approved specs.
19:12:09 <lucasagomes> jroll, lol
19:12:21 <jroll> I think we should talk about discovery in the open discussion, we talked about it some at the meetup and where the line is
19:12:22 <NobodyCam> Thank you devananda :)
19:12:27 <rloo> wanyen: specs can still be approved for juno, but that list shows only the ones that have been approved to date.
19:12:27 <devananda> #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/juno-3
19:12:29 <NobodyCam> jroll: ++
19:12:54 <NobodyCam> we good to move to the sub-team reports?
19:13:20 <NobodyCam> #topic SubTeam: integration & testing work
19:13:30 <NobodyCam> adam_g: around?
19:13:35 <adam_g> hey!
19:13:40 <NobodyCam> hey hey :)
19:14:15 <adam_g> so, to recap what was discussed last week re CI work required toward ironic nova driver merging..
19:14:52 <adam_g> in addition to getting tempest smoke tests running and passing against ironic, we're working on getting grenade "upgrade" testing up and running in the gate
19:15:06 <Shrews> adam_g: i've tried 4 times now to reproduce your smoke test results, but i still get failures
19:15:32 <NobodyCam> ahh, yes also we will need to proxy simple reads from the nova api over to Ironic
19:15:45 <adam_g> which means deploying devstack+nova /w the fake driver, populating the nova-bm database with fake data,  then having grenade migrate the deployment to ironic and run tempest smoke tests against that.
19:15:51 <NobodyCam> so node-list and node-show
19:15:57 <adam_g> Shrews, ping me after meeting
19:16:40 <adam_g> i should have a WIP grenade patch up today that does the migration, but will need to work with romcheg1 on pulling in the tooling he's working on to handle migrating from nova-bm nodes to ironic
19:16:59 <NobodyCam> adam_g: sweet :)\
19:17:03 <Shrews> looks like we are starting to get some progress on getting our outstanding tempest/etc changes reviewed too
19:17:13 <NobodyCam> is mrda-away around?
19:17:22 <romcheg1> adam_g: Lets work it out tomorrow together
19:17:35 <adam_g> romcheg1, cool
19:18:12 <NobodyCam> was hopping to get a update on the nova patchs
19:18:33 <jroll> mrda is on vacation no?
19:18:39 <NobodyCam> devananda: do you have any insight as to the split out mrda is doing?
19:19:03 <NobodyCam> oh is he :( that slipped my mind
19:19:06 <lucasagomes> jroll, I think so, rings me a bell. I think he will be back on friday afair
19:19:16 <jroll> fwiw, I know the whiteboard was up to date as of recently
19:19:42 <NobodyCam> jroll: thank you
19:19:51 <jroll> so I think everyone can check that out offline
19:20:04 <NobodyCam> yep ok then moving along
19:20:06 <NobodyCam> #topic SubTeam: Bug team
19:20:09 <NobodyCam> dtantsur:
19:20:19 <NobodyCam> any updates?
19:20:23 <devananda> NobodyCam: yes. mrda proposed 6 patches to nova
19:20:23 <dtantsur> here! yes
19:21:02 <dtantsur> numbers here: Open: 115 (-9). 7 new (-2), 36 in progress (-5), 0 critical, 14 high (-2) and 9 incomplete (+1)
19:21:04 <NobodyCam> devananda: if you feel up can you make sure hte whightboard has them listed
19:21:27 <dtantsur> (some maybe wrong, I'm still fighting launchpad and it's strange API)
19:21:31 <devananda> NobodyCam: it does. L 69-78
19:21:36 <NobodyCam> dtantsur: so we're making head way
19:21:52 <dtantsur> yep. I also got some kind of dashboard for bugs:
19:21:55 <NobodyCam> devananda: awesome Thank you
19:22:02 <dtantsur> http://ironic-bugs.divius.net/
19:22:14 <dtantsur> some problems with stats there and source code looks awful :)
19:22:19 <NobodyCam> #link http://ironic-bugs.divius.net
19:22:20 <devananda> dtantsur: fyi, anyone can # link something
19:22:34 <dtantsur> oh, I forgot :)
19:22:40 <devananda> also, nice dashboard!
19:22:41 <lucasagomes> dtantsur, nice one
19:23:03 <NobodyCam> very nice
19:23:04 <devananda> dtantsur: that linked on the whiteboard?
19:23:10 <dtantsur> not yet
19:23:34 <NobodyCam> great update dtantsur.
19:23:41 <BadCub> dashboard very helpful. Thank you!
19:23:42 <NobodyCam> any questions on bugs?
19:23:59 <dtantsur> any ideas for improvements are welcome
19:24:39 <NobodyCam> ok moving on to:
19:24:44 <jroll> it's open source, so just send PRs :P
19:24:44 <NobodyCam> #topic SubTeam: Fedora support
19:24:54 <dtantsur> jroll, +1
19:25:14 <NobodyCam> dtantsur: looks like thats you again
19:25:14 <dtantsur> DevStack and tempest worked for me out-of-box last week. That's all I have on Fedora support :)
19:25:24 <devananda> dtantsur: that's awesome
19:25:25 <NobodyCam> w00t!
19:25:36 <lucasagomes> yay
19:26:18 <NobodyCam> we're making good headway today:)
19:26:34 <NobodyCam> any questions on fedora support?
19:26:35 <wanyen> are there any work of bulding federa ipa ramdisk?
19:27:01 <jroll> I don't think there's plans to base any ramdisk on fedora
19:27:07 <NobodyCam> wanyen: that may fall in to the next section
19:27:16 <wanyen> ok.
19:27:17 <jroll> also what NobodyCam said
19:27:20 <dtantsur> wanyen, my personal plans - yes
19:27:34 <NobodyCam> ok moving on to:
19:27:35 <NobodyCam> #topic SubTeam: Ironic Python Agent
19:27:44 <NobodyCam> lots of good stuff here
19:27:46 <wanyen> dtantsur:  good to know.
19:27:50 <jroll> hi!
19:28:03 <jroll> tons of good news today
19:28:07 <NobodyCam> I started hacking on a DIB IPA element
19:28:34 <jroll> first, the agent driver is now in ironic's tree :)
19:28:38 <JoshNang> \o/
19:28:53 <NobodyCam> :> \o/
19:28:55 <dtantsur> \o/
19:28:59 <jroll> as always, you can track IPA progress here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ipa-todos
19:29:12 <NobodyCam> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ipa-todos
19:29:33 <jroll> our top priority right now is devstack + tempest... instructions are here, working on making this less manual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ipa-devstack
19:29:47 <jroll> once we can successfully run tempest, we'll be adding some check/gate jobs
19:29:54 <NobodyCam> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ipa-devstack
19:30:03 <NobodyCam> jroll: awesome
19:30:09 <jroll> 1) build IPA and run tempest on IPA repo
19:30:24 <jroll> 2) use master IPA tarball and run tempest on ironic repo
19:31:14 <jroll> and as NobodyCam said, he started working on a dib element for IPA, that work is here:
19:31:16 <jroll> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110487/
19:31:17 <NobodyCam> jroll: tarball or pypi ?
19:31:22 <jroll> NobodyCam: tarball
19:31:49 <jroll> we want to test against master; I don't plan on making "releases" right now, but that could change
19:31:56 <jroll> someone just needs to convince me :)
19:32:14 <NobodyCam> jroll: we may wat to chat offline
19:32:17 <jroll> (the tarball comes from a post-test job on the IPA repo)
19:32:29 <jroll> NobodyCam: sure :)
19:32:36 <NobodyCam> :)
19:32:51 <jroll> I think that's all I have today... any questions?
19:33:03 <boris-42> jroll NobodyCam  hi guys =)
19:33:13 <NobodyCam> great update jroll Thank you
19:33:15 <jroll> hi
19:33:18 <rameshg87> NobodyCam, i would like to discuss on the ilo virtual media iscsi deploy driver spec as there has been some difference of opinion on using different deploy image formats among drivers
19:33:43 <jroll> rameshg87: that's on the agenda for open discussion already, let's wait until then
19:33:46 <NobodyCam> rameshg87: two more sub team reports then open floor :)
19:34:06 <rameshg87> NobodyCam, jroll, sorry :-(
19:34:13 <NobodyCam> unless there are
19:34:23 <jroll> tis ok
19:34:27 <NobodyCam> ipa questions I'll jump in to the next report
19:34:34 <NobodyCam> rameshg87: all good:)
19:34:39 <NobodyCam> #topic SubTeam: Oslo
19:34:48 <NobodyCam> GheRivero: any updates?
19:35:49 <NobodyCam> not sure GheRivero's online
19:36:19 <NobodyCam> we can come back if he pops up
19:36:30 <NobodyCam> #topic SubTeam: Ironic migration
19:36:40 <romcheg1> Morning all!
19:36:43 <NobodyCam> romcheg1: any updates for us?
19:36:52 <NobodyCam> :)
19:37:00 <romcheg1> So I actually have no big progress.
19:37:21 <romcheg1> There is a minor feedback from Nova team on one of the patches
19:37:28 <romcheg1> And that's actually all I have
19:37:36 <NobodyCam> romcheg1: do you have a link?
19:37:40 <romcheg1> I will cooperate with adam_g yesterday
19:37:48 <romcheg1> NobodyCam: Gimme a sec please
19:37:54 <NobodyCam> sure :)
19:37:54 <romcheg1> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101920/
19:38:04 <NobodyCam> awesome :) ty
19:38:05 <romcheg1> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102563/
19:38:22 <romcheg1> %s/yesterday/tomorrow/
19:38:28 <NobodyCam> hehehehe
19:38:30 <romcheg1> stupid words :)
19:38:56 <NobodyCam> romcheg1: thank you for the update :)
19:39:06 <romcheg1> We will try to integrate Adams update script and my migration tools
19:39:16 <romcheg1> any progress will be reported
19:39:49 <NobodyCam> oh nice, and that will also include the tests that nova team was looking for?
19:40:02 <romcheg1> NobodyCam: exactly
19:40:09 <romcheg1> Guys please also take a quick look at that if possible
19:40:18 <romcheg1> that === migration tools
19:40:34 <devananda> adam_g: do you recal if nova had wanted the migration stuff moved into ironic's tree?
19:40:35 <romcheg1> Because Nova team is not always in the context so it's hard for them to review that
19:40:35 <NobodyCam> romcheg1: at the above links?
19:40:42 <romcheg1> NobodyCam: aha
19:41:12 <adam_g> devananda, i dont remember discussing that
19:41:54 <NobodyCam> devananda: I do not recall hearing that, I thought they wanted the tests in their tree
19:41:56 <jroll> I feel like they did want it in ironic's tree
19:42:00 <romcheg1> Ah
19:42:06 <romcheg1> There was a question on Nova spec
19:42:26 <romcheg1> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95025/9/specs/juno/deprecate-baremetal-driver.rst
19:42:35 <devananda> adam_g: hm. I seem to recall something about moving the nova_bm sqla model code,a nd the migrations, into our tree, but that could have been one of the many options we discussed and then dropped
19:42:45 <romcheg1> It looks like some of the folks may not want to remove the old code
19:42:53 <romcheg1> So we may have problems with that
19:43:05 <devananda> romcheg1: not the old code -- they're happy to delete that. it's the API extension
19:43:18 <romcheg1> devananda: Isn't that the old code? :)
19:43:39 <devananda> romcheg1: no. we need to write a new module, adhering to the same API, that will proxy GET requests to Ironic
19:43:46 <devananda> romcheg1: we don't need to proxy any writes, thankfully
19:43:48 <NobodyCam> romcheg1: they would like use to proxy the api requests over to ironic
19:44:03 <romcheg1> devananda, NobodyCam: Ah thanks!
19:44:16 <NobodyCam> just node / port  list / show
19:44:22 <romcheg1> I already started panicing
19:44:27 <NobodyCam> :)
19:44:31 <jroll> lol
19:44:54 <NobodyCam> anything else on migration
19:45:13 <jroll> shall we open the floodgates? :P
19:45:19 <NobodyCam> yep:
19:45:21 <NobodyCam> #topic Food for Thought / Open Discussion
19:45:22 <NobodyCam> go
19:45:28 * jroll ducks
19:45:29 <NobodyCam> heheehhe
19:45:36 <jroll> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97744/
19:45:44 <jroll> this is what rameshg87 wanted to chat about
19:45:59 <NobodyCam> this is a issue with who builds the iso?
19:46:00 <jroll> I kind of hoped devananda and lifeless would both be around
19:46:05 <jroll> yeah, I guess?
19:46:16 * lucasagomes go grab the conversation starter cards
19:46:22 <NobodyCam> lol
19:46:37 <NobodyCam> I do not see ironic as a image builder
19:46:46 <jroll> devananda mentioned the other day that compatibility of images between drivers is a separate feature that we should not handle today
19:47:03 <jroll> I think I agree
19:47:19 <jroll> I guess maybe lifeless is the only dissenter here, that I know of
19:47:40 <NobodyCam> devananda: do you thought on 97744?
19:48:16 <rameshg87> i guess lifeless is not around here right now
19:48:34 <devananda> I think there's a larger body of work to be done tosupport multiple image file formats across drivers
19:48:35 <wanyen> how do we resolve teh issue between different opinons?
19:48:45 <NobodyCam> rameshg87: his timezone can make it ruff on him to be here
19:49:28 <rameshg87> NobodyCam, okay
19:50:00 <jroll> I also wanted to chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111232/ - we want to split things into a boot interface and a deploy interface eventually. this patch does a lot of work towards this but not all the way - do we want to put effort into this or should we hold off until we split those interfaces? (this is required for the iLO work)
19:50:22 <NobodyCam> I can see his point thou, it would require that the users know what image type is being deployed and then have to select the correct driver to support that image type
19:50:33 <dtantsur> jroll, well, this patch makes sense to me as it is
19:50:45 <devananda> NobodyCam: if the user is uploading their own images, yes -- it's additional complexity for them
19:50:48 <dtantsur> jroll, do we want to block/harden iLO work right now?
19:50:56 <devananda> NobodyCam: if only operators are allowed to create images, the problem is moot
19:51:05 <devananda> this is why I'm OK with the current proposal
19:51:09 <jroll> dtantsur: my initial thought is not
19:51:21 <NobodyCam> devananda: ack :)
19:51:42 <devananda> jroll: not having read the code yet, I'm inclined to say, go ahead with refactoring of code now that helps the iLO driver, as long as it's not changing any APIs
19:51:46 <jroll> dtantsur: just seems like a lot of work to get partially to the goal
19:52:02 <jroll> but my problem with it is that it doesn't *actually* split thing
19:52:02 <jroll> s
19:52:19 <jroll> the pxe driver is still tightly coupled to the iscsi_deploy driver
19:52:22 <devananda> jroll: is it going in the right driection?
19:52:28 <NobodyCam> rameshg87: is the goal that ilo will support all deploy ijmages at some point?
19:52:33 <lucasagomes> jroll, if we split the interface, it means that this work will also touch all other drivers
19:52:54 <lucasagomes> and that seems to be a lot of work, not only for iLo
19:53:00 <lucasagomes> but general refactoring things
19:53:00 <jroll> devananda: it's getting there, without a pluggable BootInterface I don't think it can get all the way. which might be fine.
19:53:01 <devananda> huh - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111232/4/ironic/drivers/modules/iscsi_deploy.py is all module, no class?
19:53:18 <dtantsur> I like every suggestion that makes PXE code a bit more readable :)
19:53:28 <rameshg87> NobodyCam, do you mean ilo driver supporting all type of boot images ?
19:53:53 <devananda> dtantsur: ++
19:53:54 <NobodyCam> rameshg87: yes,
19:54:53 <rameshg87> NobodyCam, i acknowledge lifeless concern on user having to cope with two kind of images (iso and aki/ami)
19:54:53 <jroll> devananda: right, it factors out most of the iscsi-related things to there, I almost think I would refactor it in the other direction... pull the pxe code out of the PxeDeploy class or whatever it's called
19:55:06 <NobodyCam> rameshg87: ack :)
19:55:06 <dtantsur> PXE does not imply iSCSI, thus split makes sense to me even without far consequences
19:55:26 <lucasagomes> yeah there's many things to refactor there
19:55:33 <NobodyCam> fyi : five minute bell
19:55:40 <jroll> dtantsur: except it's still coupled tightly to iscsi... iscsi should be the deploy driver, pxe should only be related to that
19:55:55 <jroll> dtantsur: does iscsi imply pxe, however?
19:56:03 <devananda> jroll: no.
19:56:27 <devananda> we have rthe following sets: boot {iLO, PXE} deploy {iSCSI, IPA}
19:56:42 <jroll> devananda: long term, I agree.
19:56:57 <devananda> where boot == "how we get $ramdisk running on $machine" and deploy == "how ramdisk puts user image on $machine"
19:57:00 <devananda> jroll: right, long term
19:57:06 <jroll> right
19:57:09 <devananda> class and module renaming aside
19:57:19 <devananda> an quick glance this looks like it's splitting along those lines
19:57:21 <jroll> this patch doesn't actually decouple anything, it just moves code around
19:57:27 <devananda> oh
19:57:30 <jroll> is that actually helpful, is my question
19:57:35 <dtantsur> jroll, honestly I disagree
19:58:04 <devananda> jroll: so by moving stuff around, it is defining an implicit API between boot and deploy drivers
19:58:04 <dtantsur> to me providing line between responsibilities of these 2 modules is a helpful thing on it's own
19:58:10 <devananda> I think the question is
19:58:14 <devananda> is *THIS* the API we want?
19:58:20 <devananda> if not, we'll need to refactor it again anyway
19:58:23 <devananda> and touch both drivers when we do so
19:58:29 <devananda> well, all drivers
19:58:30 <jroll> I don't see an API between the two
19:58:34 <jroll> in this patch
19:59:10 <NobodyCam> devananda: are you saying we should start planing for a v2 api?
19:59:36 <devananda> NobodyCam: no -- this is the internal driver API we're talkign about
19:59:50 <dtantsur> all this looks perfectionism to me... what we have now is huge PXE module doing a lot of things, including PXE :)
20:00:08 <dtantsur> why not at least split out, what is _not_ PXE?
20:00:16 <jroll> iscsi_deploy.py has almost zero code related to just iscsi
20:00:33 <NobodyCam> times up
20:00:36 <dtantsur> we're out of time
20:00:36 <devananda> this is one problem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111232/4/etc/ironic/ironic.conf.sample
20:00:40 <jroll> it's somewhat related to the "iscsi ramdisk", but e.g. mounting the iscsi mount etc is elsewhere
20:00:42 <devananda> needless CONF changes are bad
20:00:47 <NobodyCam> let move back in to channel
20:00:53 <jroll> ^^
20:01:01 <NobodyCam> thank you for the great meeting everyone
20:01:06 <NobodyCam> #endmeeting