05:06:14 <cinerama> #startmeeting Ironic
05:06:15 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jun  9 05:06:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cinerama. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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05:06:18 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
05:06:44 <mrda> o/
05:06:55 <cinerama> okay welcome everyone to this lightly-attended ironic meeting
05:06:56 <mrda> Thanks cinerama for poking the bot
05:07:02 <jlvillal> o/
05:07:11 <naohirot> o/
05:07:11 <lintan> o/
05:07:14 <wanyen> o/
05:07:49 <cinerama> okay so looks like first off on the agenda we have:
05:07:54 <cinerama> Announcements and reminders
05:08:28 <mrda> So it looks like we're having a midcycle
05:08:37 <cinerama> the main one we have is: don't forget to vote in the poll about mid-cycle dates. you can find the poll at #link http://goo.gl/forms/RJvq0uqfSD
05:08:39 <pshige> o/
05:08:42 <mrda> and devananda's got a straw poll going...
05:09:03 <cinerama> anyone have any other announcements they'd like to share?
05:09:17 <gabriel-bezerra> cinerama: shouldn't #link be in the beggining of the message?
05:09:30 <mrda> #link http://goo.gl/forms/RJvq0uqfSD
05:09:35 <cinerama> gabriel-bezerra: oh, OK. thanks for the pointer
05:09:57 <gabriel-bezerra> cinerama: np
05:10:50 <cinerama> okay great. moving along, looks like the next topic is
05:10:59 <gabriel-bezerra> pshige didn't answer devananda earlier, like 2h ago.
05:11:05 <gabriel-bezerra> is pshige around?
05:11:14 <pshige> yes
05:11:39 <gabriel-bezerra> I'm sorry, you said o/
05:11:44 <gabriel-bezerra> so, next topic...
05:11:57 <cinerama> do we want to get straight into pshige's topic? did anyone else have anything for the subteam status reports?
05:12:21 <gabriel-bezerra> #topic Review subteam status reports
05:12:22 <mrda> cinerama: I think that's all we got.  There's nothing interesting in the sub-teams' reports
05:12:34 <wanyen> subteam status are on teh whiteboard https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard
05:12:43 <cinerama> thanks wanyen
05:12:53 <pshige> ok
05:12:54 <cinerama> pshige, i think you have the floor
05:13:07 <pshige> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187056/
05:13:08 <gabriel-bezerra> cinerama: #topic please
05:13:37 <pshige> I don't know the irc command ...
05:13:44 <cinerama> #topic pshige on changing the structure of the developer docs
05:13:50 <cinerama> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187056/
05:13:58 <pshige> it's just for discussion and I don't intend to merge this as it is.
05:14:16 <pshige> My propose is to create a branch of guide for stable/kilo other than what we maintain for master.
05:14:23 * mrda looks
05:14:30 <pshige> We don't have OpenStack Documentation for kilo written by docs team.
05:14:39 <pshige> So for Admins , we should keep the Install Guide etc for stable/kilo.
05:14:50 <pshige> On the other hand, we should also keep the Developer Install Guide for master.
05:14:52 <gabriel-bezerra> pshige: our docs are in the same repository as the code, aren't them?
05:15:02 <pshige> yes
05:15:14 <pshige> Please give me any comments.I won't merge this for a while.
05:15:43 <pshige> I will continuously discuss with Docs Team in consideration of our opinions and will report as Docs sub team.
05:15:45 <mrda> pshige: is this in line with what devananda and loquacities were discussing at summit?
05:16:04 <gabriel-bezerra> so isn't the stable branch for kilo code the same as kilo docs?
05:16:17 <mrda> i.e. Ironic write the docs, docs team wander over occasionally and fix all our structure/grammar/spelling mistakes?
05:17:33 <pshige> we don't decide which team will write manuals.
05:18:04 <mrda> So there's been some agreement between Ironic PTL and Docs PTL on this at summit
05:18:21 <mrda> so I was wondering whether this is the follow-on to that
05:18:24 <pshige> we should discuss with docs team.
05:18:40 <mrda> Right, I think that just happenned in Vancouver :)
05:18:51 <pshige> no agreement there
05:19:11 <wanyen> Ironic doc is not part of the OpenStack Kilo doc.  Do you know whether Ironic admin doc will be included in OpenStack administrator guide for Liberty?
05:19:36 <mrda> oh ok.  I understood that to be different.  I'll talk to Lana again about this.
05:20:07 <pshige> we should discuss in a few months.
05:20:13 <wanyen> I thought eventaually admin info will go into OpenStack admin guide and Ironic will only maintain the developer doc.
05:20:19 <mrda> wanyen: it's my understanding that docs don't have capacity to write Iromnic docs, so the Irtonic team have to.  But Docs will offer support from time to time to keep us on track.
05:20:33 <mrda> (please excuse my typos)
05:20:50 <wanyen> mrda, np.  I am bad at typing as well.
05:21:39 <mrda> ok, so it seems like more discussion is needed in this space.
05:21:49 <pshige> I should go on this discussion here in a few weeks.
05:22:13 <pshige> I don't intend to decide something here now.
05:22:18 <wanyen> one of iLO driver team member discussed doc changes with rloo lately.  That's the impression I got from that discussion.
05:22:35 <mrda> ok, perhaps when we discuss it again I'll invite the Docs PTL along, so we can all be on the same page.
05:22:48 <wanyen> mrda +1
05:23:08 <gabriel-bezerra> I think docs should be together with their project/module as a general rule.
05:23:24 <pshige> that's it.
05:23:26 <mrda> gabriel-bezerra: I think that's what's happening
05:23:44 <cinerama> #action Discuss Ironic admin documentation with docs PTL
05:23:55 <cinerama> ^ that look about right pshige mrda?
05:24:03 <mrda> cinerama: thanks
05:24:49 <cinerama> anything else on that topic?
05:25:05 <pshige> we should discuss with Lana and Karin
05:25:28 * mrda just pinged Lana, pointing her to this log
05:25:43 <cinerama> #action Ping Lana & Karin re docs
05:26:36 <cinerama> okay
05:26:42 <cinerama> #topic General discussion
05:26:53 <cinerama> anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss here?
05:27:51 <mrda> thanks cinerama - I think we're done here :)
05:28:13 <pshige> thanks cinerama and all!
05:28:19 <gabriel-bezerra> thank you, folks
05:28:25 <cinerama> great, thanks everyone
05:28:28 <pshige> #endmeeting
05:28:33 <cinerama> #endmeeting