17:00:19 <jroll> #startmeeting ironic 17:00:23 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Aug 15 17:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:24 <vdrok> o/ 17:00:24 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:25 <devananda> o/ 17:00:27 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' 17:00:28 <mariojv> o/ 17:00:28 <NobodyCam> o/ 17:00:28 <jroll> hey everyone 17:00:29 <jlvillal> o/ 17:00:31 <lucasagomes> o/ 17:00:32 <mjturek1> o/ 17:00:40 <blakec> o/ 17:00:49 <jroll> as always, the agenda is here: 17:00:51 <jroll> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting 17:00:52 <rpioso> o/ 17:00:55 <Madasi> o/ 17:01:04 <alineb> o/ 17:01:05 <jroll> pretty light today, this should be quick 17:01:07 <jroll> :) 17:01:11 <NobodyCam> :) 17:01:15 <jroll> #topic announcements and reminders 17:01:16 <dtantsur> o/ 17:01:17 <rloo> o/ 17:01:28 <jroll> so we got 6.1.0 release last week with a TON of features 17:01:35 <jroll> thanks so much to everyone for your hard work on that 17:01:41 <lucasagomes> w00t 17:01:47 <jroll> #link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic/newton.html#id2 17:01:51 <rloo> yay 17:01:56 <jroll> release notes are there if you want to see just how much :) 17:02:22 <sambetts> o/ 17:02:32 <jroll> reminder that non-client library final release is next week - if we need something in ironic-lib let's get that done now 17:02:41 <devananda> woot! 17:02:43 <jroll> ditto for client final releases the following week 17:03:14 <jroll> anyone have anything else for announcement/reminders? 17:03:16 <dtantsur> a reminder: the libraries and clients deadlines are coming soon, please review their changes (especially OSC commands in ironicclient) 17:03:24 <dtantsur> hmm, you beat me to it, right? 17:03:26 <jroll> :D 17:03:31 <jroll> ++ for osc changes though 17:03:45 <jroll> #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html 17:03:46 <lucasagomes> jroll, there's a patch to make parse_root_device_hints() work with operators in ironic-lib, currently IPA because I need to finish the IPA bits 17:03:49 <jroll> (for the full schedule) 17:03:54 <lucasagomes> but yeah, will be available for review this week 17:04:13 <jroll> lucasagomes: got it, thanks 17:04:17 <rloo> jroll: do we want to try for the deadlines in the beginning of the week? 17:04:39 <JayF> I will also try to get a patch up for ironic-lib to add dev docs, mainly so we can have dev docs for Metrics, but I don't think that'd neccessarily need to be released 17:04:41 <jroll> rloo: yes, the earlier the better 17:04:41 <rloo> jroll: cuz they're always 'the week of...' 17:05:01 <jroll> rloo: I want to get the release requests submitted on the wednesday of those weeks 17:05:12 <jroll> maybe tuesday 17:05:24 <jroll> the note on the schedule says, "All deadlines are generally the Thursday of the week on which they are noted above" 17:05:32 <rloo> jroll: ok, i'll look forward to your 'fix up reno' patch for the client ;) 17:05:40 <jroll> rloo: yay :( 17:05:51 * jroll makes a note to do that 17:05:57 <davidlenwell> o/ 17:06:12 <dtantsur> heh, it's still better than trying to collect everything in the wiki in the end of the cycle 17:06:16 <dtantsur> :) 17:06:18 <jroll> +1 17:06:23 <jroll> anything else here? 17:06:38 <TheJulia> o/ (sorry, was on a phone call) 17:07:11 <jroll> #topic subteam status reports 17:07:17 <jroll> as always, those are here: 17:07:19 <jroll> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard 17:07:25 <jroll> starts at line 80 this time 17:07:46 <jroll> some of those things are done or just have a couple follow up patches \o/ 17:07:55 <mat128|afk> o/ 17:08:10 * jroll gives folks a few minutes to review/update those 17:08:18 <devananda> jroll: I'd like to get the api-ref update for api v1.22 landed. I had hoped for that to be in 6.1, but we should at least get the website up to date 17:08:33 <jroll> devananda: ditto 17:08:36 <rloo> jroll: wrt multiple compute hosts -- do we (you) need to explain how that was solved? 17:09:03 <jroll> rloo: I've explained it in the mailing list and the commit message for the change, I'd rather not do it again :) 17:09:17 <rloo> jroll: oh, i missed the email (sorry, am behind). thx. 17:09:35 <jroll> rloo: the email was after nova midcycle a few weeks ago 17:09:57 <rloo> jroll: oh, right. so long ago i had forgotten :) 17:10:29 <jroll> :D 17:10:47 <rloo> software metrics is almost done? 17:11:01 <jroll> yep 17:11:26 * jroll made a note 17:11:50 <dtantsur> a small reminder: please do not leave bugs in "Fix Committed" state 17:12:01 <jroll> dtantsur: so, you want to freeze at normal FF time? do we think that will actually help get more bugs done? 17:12:12 <JayF> rloo: I'd call it "done" sans the dev docs 17:12:16 <dtantsur> in this state a bug is not considered closed, and there is no longer a procedure to move such bugs to "released" state 17:12:26 <rloo> dtantsur: what do you mean? we need to update the bugs after they are fixed? 17:12:52 <rloo> dtantsur: what should we do? (or is it the release manager that should do whatever?) 17:12:56 <dtantsur> rloo, gerrit does the right thing (use Fix Released), but I've seen a couple of folks putting bugs in Fix Committed 17:13:19 <dtantsur> the latter does not mean "closed", and it requires manual fixing 17:13:21 <rloo> dtantsur: Fix Released == an ironic release? 17:13:29 <dtantsur> Fix Released = Closed 17:13:34 <dtantsur> treat it this way :) 17:13:39 <jroll> ++ 17:13:46 <rloo> dtantsur: OH. ok. I thought it was only when the release happened. 17:13:51 <dtantsur> jroll, not sure about normal FF time, but maybe allocate a some time to clean it up 17:13:51 <JayF> rloo: it used to be "Fix Committed -> software released -> Fix Released" but then we moved to just "Fix Released ~= Closed" 17:13:58 <dtantsur> rloo, it used to be the case, it's no longer though 17:14:06 <dtantsur> yes, as JayF explained 17:14:11 <rloo> why don't we just get rid of fixed release then? 17:14:34 <rloo> or have some bot change fix commited to fix released? 17:14:36 <jroll> dtantsur: there's only four weeks between FF and final release, so "extra time" seems like FF time 17:14:43 <vdrok> I thought that they can just be moved them from fix committed to fix released? 17:14:46 <dtantsur> rloo, we can't get rid of stuff built into launchpad :) 17:14:53 <lucasagomes> not sure we can, it's launchpad 17:15:13 <dtantsur> it does not happen too often though, I'm just reminding the folks :) 17:15:15 * JayF waits for someone to perk up and sell us on storyboard ;) 17:15:24 <rloo> dtantsur: it just seems to be one extra manual thing that we humans shouldn't need to remember to do. 17:15:38 <dtantsur> JayF, the last time I tried it, it was not ready yet (politely speaking). but it was some time ago 17:15:48 <JayF> rloo: it's only "manual" if you close the bug manually. Gerrit will automatically put it in Fix Released if you tag everything right. 17:16:00 <JayF> rloo: this is just if you go to manually change the status of a bug, make sure to go all the way to "Fix Released" 17:16:22 * rloo thinks we ask too much of our developers 17:16:23 <dtantsur> jroll, maybe then FF, yes. with exceptions, as usual, but still 17:16:52 <jroll> dtantsur: yeah, I'll think about it, it's close to time to start saying 'yes' or 'no' to features anyway 17:17:09 <dtantsur> yeah, it's pretty clear (IMO) which priorities land and which don't 17:17:29 <dtantsur> we still can be pretty liberal towards vendor changes (for those vendors who have CI working ;) 17:17:37 <jroll> dtantsur: yeah, I think so. went through trello this morning so I have a good idea of where we're aty 17:17:39 <jroll> at* 17:18:16 <dtantsur> yep 17:18:55 <jroll> anyone else have subteam question things or should I open up the floor? 17:19:36 <jroll> #topic open discussion 17:19:40 <jlvillal> I was just wondering when we start working on the Barcelona Summit sessions? 17:19:52 <jlvillal> Or the schedule for them. 17:20:00 <jroll> so just wanted to point out this cinder thread about deprecation process and driver removal for third party CI: 17:20:01 <jlvillal> And what we will discuss 17:20:02 <jroll> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/101428.html 17:20:11 <JayF> I suspect we might want to wait until the talks for summit are accepted/rejected 17:20:12 <jroll> worth a read, it's relevant to us. I still am taking it all in 17:20:22 <jroll> jlvillal: I haven't heard much on it yet 17:20:25 <JayF> as that might help decide who ends up in barcelona and who doesn't :( 17:20:47 <jroll> I'd assume we'll chat about it in september 17:21:00 <jroll> JayF: I don't think "who is there" really changes much about what we need to discuss in person :) 17:21:01 <jlvillal> Okay, thank you. 17:21:17 <vdrok> the accepted talks will be known in the beginning of september iirc? 17:21:24 <JayF> jroll: eh, we tend to not put topics on the agenda unless someone will champion it though 17:21:49 * jlvillal does wonder when they will announce the accepted summit talks 17:21:54 <jroll> JayF: sure, I guess I think we have enough big things to get through 17:23:35 <dtantsur> Driver composition: episode 4 (or 5?) :D 17:23:37 <jroll> anything else folks want to talk about? 17:23:41 * dtantsur hopes it no longer needs a discussion though 17:23:45 <jroll> heh 17:24:07 <dtantsur> this last for so long that Disney soon will buy rights on it from me :D 17:24:16 <jroll> yay for quick meetings, thanks everyone :) 17:24:18 <NobodyCam> thank you all 17:24:18 <jroll> dtantsur: LOL 17:24:23 <jroll> #endmeeting