15:00:20 <TheJulia> #startmeeting ironic 15:00:21 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Mar 8 15:00:20 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:21 <TheJulia> o/ 15:00:22 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:24 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' 15:00:26 <TheJulia> Good morning Ironic! 15:00:30 <stendulker> o/ 15:00:31 <erbarr> o/ 15:00:31 <rpioso> \o 15:00:32 <bfournie> o/ 15:00:36 <kaifeng> o/ 15:00:39 <bdodd> o/ 15:00:44 <arne_wiebalck> o/ 15:00:52 <ajya> o/ 15:00:58 <rloo> o/ 15:01:08 <rpittau> o/ 15:01:12 <TheJulia> Our agenda can be found on the wiki, as always. 15:01:15 <TheJulia> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting 15:01:28 <TheJulia> #topic Announcements / Reminders 15:02:08 <TheJulia> #info This week is R-5 for the OpenStack Wallaby release, meaning final library releases and requirements freeze. 15:02:36 <TheJulia> #info The PTG has been announced to be on April 19th through April 23rd. 15:02:39 <TheJulia> #link https://april2021-ptg.eventbrite.com/ 15:02:51 <TheJulia> Please remember to register soon, and let us know if you will be attending. 15:03:31 <TheJulia> #info In relation to the upcoming PTG, an etherpad has been started. Please feel free to post ideas/topics for discussion. 15:03:35 <TheJulia> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/ironic-xena-ptg 15:03:56 <TheJulia> One final note 15:04:22 <TheJulia> #info If anyone is interested, the TC/PTL Election candidacy submission window is open through March 9th at 23:45 UTC. 15:05:00 <TheJulia> Does anyone else have any announcements they would like to make? Anything to remind us of? 15:05:40 * dtantsur does not 15:06:18 * TheJulia hears crickets 15:06:33 <dtantsur> oh, we need cycle highlights 15:06:37 <dtantsur> FYI TheJulia ^^ 15:06:52 <TheJulia> dtantsur: oh! right 15:07:04 <TheJulia> When are they due? 15:07:10 <dtantsur> this week I think? 15:07:30 <dtantsur> yep, March 12th 15:07:34 <TheJulia> Okay, I've added it to my calendar 15:07:52 <TheJulia> Thanks for the reminder! 15:08:54 <TheJulia> Looks like we had no action items from last week 15:09:17 <TheJulia> Onward! 15:09:20 <TheJulia> #topic Review subteam status reports 15:09:26 <TheJulia> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard 15:11:38 <TheJulia> So privsep is definitely moving to Xena 15:12:05 <rpittau> nvme secure erase is all done 15:13:09 <TheJulia> yup 15:14:23 <dtantsur> very nice 15:14:30 <dtantsur> I hope we can finish redfish RAID this cycle 15:14:32 <TheJulia> I know it is early for zer0c00l, but I expect if his second patch can get revised there may be a possibility of getting that landed this cycle as well. 15:14:43 <TheJulia> dtantsur: sooooo close :) 15:15:51 <TheJulia> rpioso: any update on interop profiles? 15:16:25 <rpioso> TheJuliia: No change 15:16:54 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/victoria: Increase the memory limit for qemu-img https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/779147 15:16:58 * rpioso had copied & pasted the date from last Monday 15:17:09 <TheJulia> Okay then, are we good to proceed? 15:17:31 <rpittau> yup 15:18:47 <dtantsur> ++ 15:18:57 <TheJulia> #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week 15:19:26 <TheJulia> We've got https://review.opendev.org/q/status:open+hashtag:ironic-week-prio 15:20:02 <TheJulia> And a starting to shrink section on the etherpad 15:20:10 <TheJulia> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/status:open+hashtag:ironic-week-prio 15:20:29 <TheJulia> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard starting around line 130 15:22:39 <TheJulia> Is there anything not listed on either list that people wish to propose to add? 15:25:00 <TheJulia> dtantsur: w/r/t the ironic lib fix you posted last week, I guess we're stuck until that hits requirements? 15:25:19 <dtantsur> well, I've reverted the requirements bump to 4.6.0 15:25:29 <dtantsur> so we're testing with 4.5.0 until 4.6.1 is out and hits requirements 15:25:44 <TheJulia> okay 15:25:54 <TheJulia> at which point I take it we'll block 4.6.0 ? 15:27:05 <dtantsur> 4.6.0 is blocked https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/778691 we may update our requirements.txt to sync it 15:27:07 <TheJulia> Do you know when the revert applied? 15:27:30 <TheJulia> okay, thanks 15:27:36 <TheJulia> That gives me the information I needed! 15:27:53 <TheJulia> Does anyone have anything they would like to propose for review priorities for the week before we move on? 15:28:54 * TheJulia hears end of cycle crickets 15:29:05 <rpittau> crickets FTW 15:29:13 * dtantsur agrees from inside a pile of emails 15:29:56 <TheJulia> Since we have no direct discussion topics, We'll take a stop over at the SIG 15:30:03 <TheJulia> #topic Baremetal SIG 15:30:20 <TheJulia> #info Next Session is *Tomorrow*, March 9th at 2PMUTC 15:30:51 <TheJulia> iurygregory will be covering the Ironic Prometheus Exporter, and the session will try and gather input for the PTG topics. 15:31:01 <TheJulia> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/bare-metal-sig 15:31:22 <TheJulia> Moving on! 15:31:27 <TheJulia> #topic Open Discussion 15:31:55 <TheJulia> Does anyone have anything they would like to discuss? Zebras perhaps? 15:32:02 <ajya> no zebras :( 15:32:09 <erbarr> hi, I'd like to see if it would be okay to remove the Dell CI account from the Third-Party CI gerrit group 15:32:12 <dtantsur> Žebras are tasty :) 15:32:23 <ajya> anyone tried virtual media boot within devstack environment recently? IPA stuck at grub command line 15:32:36 <TheJulia> wait, what!?! 15:32:38 <erbarr> that would make it so that it sends emails to reviewers when it adds results as a comment 15:32:41 <TheJulia> dtantsur: you worry me :) 15:33:02 <rpittau> if they're like horses they do are tasty 15:33:03 <dtantsur> TheJulia: note Žebra vs Zebra ;) 15:33:13 <TheJulia> dtantsur: heh 15:33:19 <dtantsur> (the former is "ribs" in Czech) 15:33:31 <dtantsur> ajya: only on bifrost 15:33:46 <rloo> is this backportable? can't decide if it is a bug or a feature (and good for folks to know about this): https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/776930 15:33:47 <dtantsur> ajya: are you sure it's stuck? maybe it just doesn't output anything? 15:33:50 <TheJulia> erbarr: I'm not a fan of more email because I'm at the point where CI emails are all noise for me, so I'm kind of against the idea, but if others want it I can hapilly add antoerh mailbox rule 15:34:05 <TheJulia> rloo: should be backportable 15:34:11 <rloo> thx TheJulia! 15:34:20 <rpioso> TheJulia: Should we be consistent across our third party CIs? 15:34:40 <dtantsur> rloo: ++ to backportable 15:34:54 <TheJulia> rloo: Even if it was explicitly labeled a feature, it is a major performance improvement and should be backported as such 15:34:55 <ajya> dtantsur: there is recent change to efiboot image script in devstack/ironic, reverting it helps to get IPA booting, but then there is SSL error, but I have to take a closer look at that to ensure there is no mismatch. Same images with PXE works 15:35:10 <rloo> that's what I think too :) 15:35:24 <TheJulia> rpioso: ideally yes, and too many emails may be part of my problem. It is just not consciously in my mind and thus difficult to discuss 15:35:26 <dtantsur> ajya: which change? maybe you have OS mismatch? 15:36:35 <rpioso> TheJulia: Okay, then we'll remove it from the list so notification emails are sent from the Dell CI. 15:36:43 <TheJulia> So the question becomes, re: erbarr's question, do people want to see emails from 3rd party CI's votes. I suspect it would be good to do so for those that see value in it 15:37:05 <TheJulia> rpioso: if that is the way the other ones are configured, then I think that is fine 15:37:05 <dtantsur> I see value in it 15:37:42 <TheJulia> Okay! 15:37:52 <erbarr> cool, thanks! 15:37:52 <ajya> dtantsur: this patch https://opendev.org/openstack/ironic/commit/31f3f9fca1ed492db0a98613c360d8b823628782 , running with CentOS8 from https://tarballs.opendev.org/openstack/ironic-python-agent/dib/files/ on devstack Ubuntu if that matters 15:37:52 <TheJulia> This feels like consensus 15:38:13 <ajya> dtantsur: older IPA from Oct2020 still works with newer Ironic 15:38:22 <TheJulia> centos8+devstack seems problematic, I tried it last friday and had waaaaay too many issues 15:38:26 <TheJulia> just, fwiw 15:38:28 <dtantsur> ajya: yeah, it assumes the same OS between IPA and devstack 15:38:35 <rpioso> TheJulia: FYI https://review.opendev.org/admin/groups/95d633d37a5d6b06df758e57b1370705ec071a57 15:38:39 <dtantsur> which was too optimistic, I admit 15:39:23 <dtantsur> although.. it uses grub and shim from ubuntu.. so the whole thing is probably a mess 15:39:31 <ajya> TheJulia: dtantsur, thanks it was working OK earlier (last year) 15:39:51 <TheJulia> Hmm, a JayF sneaks into the channel ;) 15:39:51 <ajya> dtantsur: so it takes some grub config from ubuntu and tries to use it for centos8? 15:40:04 <JayF> I've been here the whole time, I just lost my nick :) 15:40:07 <dtantsur> yeah, except that the previous version was an example of Works On DevStack :) it wasn't how real people use it 15:40:21 <dtantsur> (and it was incompatible with secure boot) 15:40:23 <TheJulia> we really need to do everything we can to avoid tryign to touch/generate/modify grub configuration 15:40:29 <TheJulia> and running grub2-install 15:40:39 <TheJulia> that should be an absolute last reesort sort of thing 15:41:21 <TheJulia> Mainly because doing so is incompatible with Secure Boot and *now* it is actually no longer supported by the newest grubs 15:41:33 <dtantsur> honestly, what we have now should work, I'm not sure why it does not 15:41:50 <ajya> dtantsur: to get virtual media boot working on bifrost need to have same OS too for both running script and IPA? 15:41:52 <dtantsur> probably worth dropping into the grub shell and looking around 15:42:05 <dtantsur> ajya: probably? at least bifrost works pretty well on centos 15:42:15 <dtantsur> (unlike devstack) 15:42:23 <TheJulia> dtantsur: it seems to, I think it is based upon the input situation 15:42:59 <TheJulia> dtantsur: I'm going to likely talk to stevebaker about this very thing later today 15:43:22 <TheJulia> so you know with grub2 blocking grub2-install 15:43:28 <TheJulia> we're going to need to backport *all* of those patches 15:43:28 <ajya> dtantsur: too many moving parts :) and what's the status with IPA on ubuntu? 15:43:51 <dtantsur> ajya: I think there was some issue with it, but I'm obviously biased towards using RH distros :) 15:44:04 <dtantsur> I'm not debian IPA works pretty well 15:44:07 <dtantsur> wut 15:44:11 <dtantsur> * I'm sure 15:46:36 <ajya> dtantsur: ok, thanks, while devstack is said to best run on ubuntu, in this case it's not suitable anymore with centos8 IPAs+virtual media boot 15:46:44 <ajya> will take a look what can be done about it 15:47:03 <dtantsur> it should work.. but I don't think I have any cycles to dive into it 15:47:34 <TheJulia> I'm not aware of any issues, but cycles are limited 15:47:55 <rpioso> Could we update the review jam agenda from week to week, or better still, from meeting to meeting, so folks are informed about what we expect to review? 15:49:18 <TheJulia> rpioso: sorry, I had to miss two of the sessions and it became moderately organic in nature which made sense as people were expressing what they needed at that moment. I'm not entirely convinced planned agendas are a super good idea, but I also need to skip tomorrow's session for another meeting so it wouldn't be fair for me to plan it for others. If anyone wants to update the agenda, they are totally welcome 15:49:18 <TheJulia> to! 15:49:39 <dtantsur> I sad question: should we abandon sushy-cli? 15:50:08 <dtantsur> I really like having a CLI for redfish, but there are alternatives, and given that etingof has been the main driving force behind it... 15:51:05 <rpioso> TheJulia: Understood. At least for me, I could make more informed decisions about my schedule if there was an agenda, even if'. I expect 15:51:29 <rpioso> *even if it's tentative. 15:51:45 <TheJulia> rpioso: yeah, I'd <3 people to propose items so it is easier 15:51:59 <TheJulia> I could like propose all zer0c00l's stuff, but I'm not sure he has time tomorrow 15:52:05 <TheJulia> that would also be mean 15:52:11 <rpioso> I expect it would help others, too. We're all over booked :-) 15:52:18 <TheJulia> +1000 15:54:21 <TheJulia> Well everyone, if there is nothing else, I guess that means this is the end of our meeting this week. 15:54:28 <dtantsur> see above 15:54:41 <TheJulia> oh right 15:54:42 <dtantsur> > a sad question: should we abandon sushy-cli? 15:54:45 <TheJulia> yeah sorry :( 15:54:52 <TheJulia> mixed feelings on that 15:55:01 <JayF> ignoring sad questions is not a valid coping mechanism? :D 15:55:08 <dtantsur> np, it's not urgent. the release team has reminded us that we haven't merged anything to it 15:55:10 <dtantsur> heh 15:55:28 <TheJulia> It is a good target for outreachy internship stuff, but I don't have spoons for the summer session 15:55:51 <TheJulia> dtantsur: yes, but that is okay... as much as it makes the release team twitch and get upset. 15:56:06 <dtantsur> well, it's a good target, but I'd rather have outreachy folks do something real 15:56:18 <dtantsur> not a dead-end project that is unlikely to ever get traction 15:56:24 <TheJulia> Yeah 15:56:37 <dtantsur> related: do we have anyone volunteering to mentor for outreachy this cycle? 15:56:56 <TheJulia> I don't really have the cycles this session nor did I propose anything 15:57:14 <TheJulia> The proposal deadline *WAS* extended to the 11th I believe 15:57:24 <rpioso> Has the deadline passed? 15:57:28 <dtantsur> rpittau: do you know anything re outreachy? 15:57:39 * TheJulia opens that mailbox with the email from Sage 15:58:12 <TheJulia> Yes, extended to the 11th 15:58:22 <rpioso> :-) 15:58:22 <TheJulia> https://www.outreachy.org/communities/cfp/openstack/ 15:58:25 <TheJulia> #link https://www.outreachy.org/communities/cfp/openstack/ 15:58:36 <rpittau> yeah, I was going to confirm the proposal was extended 15:59:14 <dtantsur> rpittau: do you or Iury plan on mentoring? 15:59:28 * dtantsur doesn't see iurygregory around 15:59:29 <rpittau> I haven't planned anything and I doubt I will have the time :/ 15:59:29 <TheJulia> I got an email from Sage Sharp on the extension sometime last last week. 15:59:52 <TheJulia> It does help help the community and grow new contributors 16:00:13 <TheJulia> FWIW 16:00:13 <dtantsur> okay, I get probably take on mentoring this time, but will sync with Iury first 16:00:23 <TheJulia> Okay 16:00:27 <dtantsur> I CAN take mentoring, but I cannot type 16:00:31 <TheJulia> :) 16:00:38 <TheJulia> Typing is not required ;) 16:00:44 <TheJulia> Anyway, thanks everyone! 16:00:53 <rpioso> Thank you! 16:00:58 <TheJulia> Have a wonderful week, and remember to review the priority changes list. This is review "crunch time" 16:01:00 <rpittau> thanks! 16:01:23 <TheJulia> And to revise changes with feedback or get that discussion going to resolve disagreements or differing perceptions. 16:01:43 <Qianbiao> thanks, have a good week. 16:01:51 <TheJulia> #endmeeting