15:00:19 <TheJulia> #startmeeting ironic
15:00:20 <TheJulia> o/
15:00:20 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Mar 15 15:00:19 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
15:00:32 <rpittau> o/
15:00:38 <rpioso> \o
15:00:38 <kaifeng> o/
15:00:38 <ajya> o/
15:00:41 <ajya> dtantsur: ack
15:00:42 <mraineri> o/
15:00:48 <TheJulia> Good morning everyone! And happy beginnings to Daylight Savings Time season!
15:00:48 <bdodd> o/
15:00:51 <rloo> o/
15:00:53 <erbarr> o/
15:01:05 <TheJulia> Our agenda is on the wiki
15:01:07 <TheJulia> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting
15:01:09 <arne_wiebalck> o/
15:01:15 <dtantsur> o/
15:01:22 <TheJulia> #topic Announcements / Reminders
15:01:37 <TheJulia> #info This week is R-4 in the Wallaby release schedule.
15:02:12 <TheJulia> #info Projects which branch for RC1 will branch next week during R-3.
15:02:48 <TheJulia> #info Ironic will likely be able to hold off on releasing until R-2, but devstack being changed may force us to release early that week.
15:03:13 <TheJulia> #info *final* Wallaby releases will be the week of R-1 for all projects.
15:03:25 <TheJulia> #info PTG is April 19th to 23rd.
15:03:51 <TheJulia> tl;dr - Please register and add thoughts/ideas to the etherpad.
15:03:53 <TheJulia> #link https://april2021-ptg.eventbrite.com/
15:04:01 <TheJulia> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/ironic-xena-ptg
15:04:33 <openstackgerrit> Moshiur Rahman proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder master: Fix: IPA image building with OpenSuse.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder/+/778726
15:05:00 <TheJulia> I've signed us up for 4 days with a 1 hour session on friday to be informal social discussion. Also, for the first few days of the PTG, I've also selected an APAC friendlier time window for cross-over of discussions.
15:05:10 * dtantsur likes the "bring your cats" part
15:05:11 <ajya> TheJulia: can you tell more about changes to devstack, what's the impact?
15:05:49 <TheJulia> ajya: Devstack has branch setting changes that will go into effect or possibly breaking changes as soon as traditional projects are branched. We've seen it take upwards of a few weeks, and we've also seen them break us pretty much immediately.
15:05:58 <dtantsur> ajya: it's more about two things happening in R-2: requirements branching (and switching master to xena) and grenade testing Wallaby->master.
15:06:14 <TheJulia> We just need to be cognizant of it because often it forces us to release as-is.
15:06:27 <TheJulia> dtantsur++
15:06:39 <ajya> thanks
15:06:53 <TheJulia> Does anyone have anything else to announce this week? Hopefully everyone will be taking a little time off soon?
15:07:56 <dtantsur> August :) (but I've just had a bit)
15:08:09 <TheJulia> dtantsur: I mean, one can bring dogs. Or iguanas. Or stuffed animals. It is all good :)
15:08:27 <TheJulia> A month off sounds glorious
15:08:55 <TheJulia> We had no action items last week, so I think we can proceed to reviewing subteam status reports
15:09:06 <dtantsur> I have a Pusheen!
15:09:10 <TheJulia> \o/
15:09:51 <rpittau> I'll bring my Cthulhu plush then!
15:09:52 <TheJulia> Last call for any other announcements or reminders?
15:10:09 <TheJulia> Cthulhu, always a classic!
15:10:19 <TheJulia> #topic Review subteam status reports
15:10:31 <TheJulia> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard
15:10:49 <TheJulia> Starting around line 293
15:11:32 <TheJulia> bdodd: thank you for following up on that
15:11:40 <TheJulia> well, my question w/r/t redfish raid
15:13:03 <bdodd> TheJulia: Aija is the one that investigated that
15:13:03 * iurygregory is late o/
15:13:15 <TheJulia> bdodd: well, thank you ajya!
15:13:18 <TheJulia> iurygregory: :)
15:13:48 <TheJulia> ajya: rpioso: Looks like config molds requires an update, dated 3/8
15:14:43 <TheJulia> rpittau: it *does* look like the anaaconda interface is going to slip
15:14:49 <rpittau> yep
15:15:04 <ajya> TheJulia: added
15:15:49 <TheJulia> rpittau: I mean, we could request ffu, but I talked to JayF and zer0c00l on ?friday? and it seemed like they wanted to get everything up with CI so that means next cycle, at least to me
15:16:07 <rpittau> I don't think we should rush it to be honest
15:16:22 <rloo> i agree ++
15:16:25 <TheJulia> Yeah, I'd still like to see it but understand
15:17:38 <TheJulia> I think we're good to proceed?
15:17:44 <dtantsur> ++
15:17:47 <rpittau> yeah
15:18:07 <zer0c00l> TheJulia: yes please
15:18:10 <zer0c00l> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/780397
15:18:31 <TheJulia> #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week
15:18:43 <openstackgerrit> Moshiur Rahman proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder master: Fix: IPA image building with OpenSuse.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder/+/778726
15:18:47 <zer0c00l> Btw i have to get a FFE https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/780397
15:18:56 <TheJulia> zer0c00l: I saw
15:19:18 <zer0c00l> No idea how to do that, any pointers /links would be helpful!
15:19:20 <zer0c00l> thanks.
15:19:36 <TheJulia> zer0c00l: if you want to get it into this release, then I have to send the email and justify it
15:19:41 <dtantsur> either wait for the branches to happen or ^^^
15:19:47 <TheJulia> or that
15:19:53 <dtantsur> * an email to openstack-discuss with [requirements] in it
15:20:14 <dtantsur> but given the state of the ironic patch, chances are high you'll hear "no"
15:20:24 <zer0c00l> okay. We definitely want to get it done with in this cycle into wallaby
15:20:27 <zer0c00l> i see.
15:21:19 <zer0c00l> i mean if we can in wallaby, if not next cycle.
15:21:34 <TheJulia> If xena is okay, then I think that is fine to do at this point
15:22:02 <zer0c00l> TheJulia: ack. When is the wallaby code freeze?
15:22:15 <zer0c00l> The config drive feature can be shipped in X release
15:22:18 <TheJulia> I see it as an early Xena item since the patches are close, but yeah, the FFE + CI need means Wallaby is very unlikely
15:22:26 <zer0c00l> ok.
15:22:35 <TheJulia> zer0c00l: Basically 2 weeks until we *have* to release
15:22:41 <zer0c00l> oh wow
15:22:43 <TheJulia> yeah
15:22:43 <zer0c00l> yeah no!
15:22:47 <TheJulia> heh, okay
15:22:47 <dtantsur> we're actually past feature frreeze
15:22:53 <dtantsur> we just don't obey it in ironic
15:22:56 <TheJulia> ++
15:23:00 <zer0c00l> :)
15:23:29 <TheJulia> So, the deciding on priorites for the week is awkward now, since we have the etherpad and the tagged items in the list
15:24:01 <dtantsur> I think we only need to use the etherpad for incoming items
15:24:08 <TheJulia> ++
15:24:12 <TheJulia> I have no objetion so I'm adding tags
15:25:32 <TheJulia> Does anyone have anything else they would like to add to the list for this week?
15:25:54 <TheJulia> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/hashtag:%2522ironic-week-prio%2522+status:open
15:26:26 <dtantsur> we may remove the indicators until we have a good discussion (PTG?)
15:26:34 <TheJulia> sounds good to me
15:26:38 <TheJulia> removing
15:28:22 <TheJulia> dtantsur: based upon your last comment, I think you may want to remove your -2 from https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/779418
15:28:48 <rpittau> can we please add the tinycore 12 patches plus the final fixes for ussuri tinyipa ?
15:28:52 <dtantsur> TheJulia: I would like it to move away from the dangerous approach first
15:29:10 <TheJulia> rpittau: will this actually fix ussuri gates?
15:29:15 <rpittau> TheJulia: yes
15:29:19 <TheJulia> add the tag then
15:29:23 <rpittau> ok
15:29:40 <TheJulia> dtantsur: ack
15:29:55 <TheJulia> Looks like we're good to proceed?
15:31:29 <rpittau> let's
15:31:32 * TheJulia hears crickets
15:31:32 * dtantsur has added indicators on the PTG etherpad
15:31:37 <TheJulia> dtantsur: thanks!
15:31:43 <TheJulia> #topic Discussion
15:31:58 <TheJulia> This week, mraineri brings us a topic regarding the Redfish Forum.
15:32:05 <TheJulia> #link https://redfishforum.com/
15:32:18 <TheJulia> mraineri: The floor is yours
15:32:26 <mraineri> I'd like to social the Redfish public forum found at https://redfishforum.com/
15:32:54 <mraineri> The forum allows anyone to post questions, comments, etc and get direct feedback from the authors of the standard
15:33:03 <dtantsur> awesome! thanks mraineri
15:33:13 <mraineri> So, while we do encourage folks to join the DMTF and participate directly, we understand this isn't always possible
15:33:42 <mraineri> Many of the topics involve things like feature requests, and we do take this sorts of requests and drive them back into Redfish to be standardized
15:33:49 <TheJulia> It this someone related to the whole thing between OpenBMC developers and the DMTF on twitter?
15:33:55 <TheJulia> s/someone/something/
15:33:58 <mraineri> But we also have topics to help folks write client software as well
15:33:58 <TheJulia> or /somewhat
15:34:30 <mraineri> Somewhat; I understand there's a lot of hesitancy around standards in general, but from a Redfish perspective, we're trying to be more open with what we do and how we interact with the rest of the world
15:34:56 <TheJulia> Sounds good!
15:35:28 <mraineri> And at the same time, one of the gaps we have within the DMTF is the major participants are on the service side of things; we'd really like more client involvement
15:35:42 <dtantsur> This has, indeed, been a problem for a long time
15:35:52 * dtantsur has questions to ask
15:36:01 <mraineri> Yes, please open the flood gates on your question :)
15:36:07 <TheJulia> dtantsur: in meeting questions, or outside meeting questions :)
15:36:09 <dtantsur> like why on earth is virtual media and console bound to Managers?
15:36:14 <TheJulia> or Redfish Forum questions?
15:36:16 <TheJulia> oh noes
15:36:18 <mraineri> Myself and a few others review the threads daily usually
15:36:18 <dtantsur> to redfish people
15:36:28 <mraineri> dtantsur: we actually moved it recently!
15:36:32 <dtantsur> \o/
15:36:39 * dtantsur is afraid to ask where though :D
15:36:47 <mraineri> Yeah, it took a while, but no one really gave us direct feedback on that for a long time
15:36:49 <TheJulia> oh no, compatability changes inbound at some point
15:37:11 <TheJulia> Are we good to proceed?
15:37:12 <mraineri> Absolutely, which is why we leave breadcrumbs with deprecation text
15:37:34 <mraineri> And we can help you with how to walk through those types of scenarios to dynamically handle older and newer methods
15:37:49 <TheJulia> mraineri: well, even then, we've seen how some implement their servers. A schism of a hard break is kind of common in my experience.
15:38:04 <mraineri> True
15:38:24 <TheJulia> Anyway, seems like we can move on to the Baremetal SIG
15:38:26 <dtantsur> is there a thread on this topic on redfishforum?
15:38:30 <mraineri> But that's also part of what we're there for on the forum; okay, there's a better way of doing something now, but how do I handle existing stuff?
15:38:37 <mraineri> Specifically for virtual media, no
15:38:51 <mraineri> But if you ask, I can certainly respond there and make the guidance available to everyone
15:39:12 <TheJulia> Awesome
15:39:48 <mraineri> That's all there is to it; if you're trying to do something and you're stuck, feel free to make a post and ask for help
15:40:14 <rpioso> mraineri: Is it indexed by search engines?
15:40:15 <mraineri> We'll either guide you down the path we've already outlined in the schema/spec, or we might also scratch our heads and make changes to the standard
15:40:24 <mraineri> rpioso: I think so
15:40:39 <TheJulia> As long as it doesn't have a evil robots.txt it should get indexed
15:40:44 <TheJulia> s/a/an/
15:41:10 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/ironic master: Update Redfish RAID release note  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/779552
15:41:12 <TheJulia> Now, most relevent things getting linked to, that is a whole different headache with search engines. :)
15:41:25 <TheJulia> #topic Baremetal SIG
15:41:40 <TheJulia> I believe the next SIG meeting will be April 12th @ 2PM UTC
15:41:48 <TheJulia> The topic will be Secure RBAC in Ironic
15:41:51 <TheJulia> arne_wiebalck: anything else to add?
15:41:55 <arne_wiebalck> We had iurygregory on the Ironic Prometheus Exporter last week (thanks again!), the video is ready and about to be published.
15:42:11 <iurygregory> \o/
15:42:13 <arne_wiebalck> And we have added some topics to the PTG agenda.
15:42:26 <TheJulia> \o/
15:42:38 <arne_wiebalck> Very few operators around, though :)
15:43:05 <TheJulia> Hmm... we need to work on that
15:43:15 <arne_wiebalck> Anyway, that's it I think.
15:43:50 <TheJulia> Okay then. Well, we have no RFE's listed, so I think that leads us to Open Discussion
15:43:53 <TheJulia> #topic Open Discussion
15:44:25 <TheJulia> Anyone have anything to discuss this week?
15:45:07 <TheJulia> The list of topics is getting longer for the PTG
15:45:55 <dtantsur> yep
15:46:16 <TheJulia> Some really good topics as well
15:49:24 <TheJulia> Well, if nobody has anything for Open Discussion, I guess it is time to call this meeting a wrap
15:49:26 <TheJulia> Thanks everyone!
15:50:06 <TheJulia> Have a wonderful week!
15:50:08 <TheJulia> #endmeeting