15:00:14 <rpittau> #startmeeting ironic
15:00:15 <openstack> Meeting started Mon May 10 15:00:14 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rpittau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:00:16 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:00:16 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Burn-in: Add CPU step  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/788211
15:00:18 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
15:00:24 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Fix NVMe Partition image on UEFI  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/788338
15:00:30 <stendulker> o/
15:00:35 <erbarr> o/
15:00:42 <rloo> o/
15:00:59 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/ironic master: Document the custom-agent deploy interface  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/789840
15:01:09 <rpittau> Welcome everyone to the weekly ironic meeting!
15:01:21 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/ironic master: Delete unavailable py2 package  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/790384
15:01:22 <rpittau> I will be your host for this week too
15:01:26 <rpioso> o/
15:01:32 <rpittau> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic
15:01:33 <dtantsur> o/
15:01:40 <kaifeng> o/
15:01:48 <ajya> o/
15:01:57 <arne_wiebalck> o/
15:02:04 <openstackgerrit> Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: [WIP] Stop accepting duplicated configdrive  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/790471
15:02:14 <rpittau> Let's start with some announcements
15:02:19 <rpittau> #topic Announcements / Reminders
15:02:34 <rpittau> #info ipa-builder has now branches starting from stable/wallaby
15:03:21 <rpittau> the wallaby stable branch is open and operative for ipa-builder
15:03:26 <dtantsur> \o/
15:03:33 <rpittau> :)
15:03:47 <rpittau> thanks to the release team for the help
15:04:00 <rpittau> it was a quick turnaround
15:04:15 <rpittau> moving on!
15:04:25 <rpittau> #info we have 2 new release liaisons: iurigregory and rpittau
15:04:59 <rloo> thx iurygregory and rpittau for volunteering!
15:05:08 <rpittau> hopefully we won't break anything (more)
15:05:39 <rpittau> it's a pleasure :)
15:06:17 <rpittau> Does anyone have anything else to announce or remind us of?
15:07:07 <rpittau> looks like we're good
15:07:19 <rpittau> onward!
15:07:25 <rpittau> #info Review action items from previous meeting
15:07:45 <rpittau> we didn't have any action items from last meeting if I'm not mistaken
15:08:21 <rpittau> so we can move to the next step
15:08:28 <rpittau> #topic Review subteam status reports
15:08:49 <rpittau> the xena themes has received multiple +2s https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/784143, let's approve it before EOW?
15:09:24 <dtantsur> yep
15:09:30 <openstackgerrit> Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Delay rendering configdrive  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/790472
15:09:59 <dtantsur> maybe we should ping the missing cores explicitly?
15:10:04 <dtantsur> or establish a lazy consensus?
15:10:32 <rloo> i think ping and wait til what wed?
15:10:43 <dtantsur> sounds good
15:10:45 <rpittau> ping + waiting until wed sounds good
15:11:43 <rpittau> iurygregory, JayF, stevebaker when yuo have a minute please check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/784143
15:11:44 <rloo> JayF, stevebaker, mgoddard, iurygregory ^^ if you have time to look at xena themes by wed, thx
15:11:48 <rloo> jinx
15:11:53 <rpittau> oh there you go! :D
15:12:13 <rpittau> cool, let's move on
15:12:24 <rpittau> #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week
15:12:32 <rpittau> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/status:open+hashtag:ironic-week-prio
15:12:56 <rpittau> we ddi a good job last week, we don't have a lot of prios left
15:13:24 <rpittau> anything we want to add ?
15:13:33 <dtantsur> I have a lot actually.. :)
15:13:37 <rpittau> eheh
15:13:42 <rpittau> go ahead
15:13:46 <dtantsur> should I just dump all links on you or is it easier to link to my gerrit? :D
15:13:53 <rpittau> lol
15:14:05 <arne_wiebalck> is the https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/784625 really a WIP?
15:14:25 <rpittau> dtantsur: feel free to add the ironic-week-prio hashtag
15:14:51 <rpittau> arne_wiebalck: maybe ask in the patch ?
15:14:54 <dtantsur> yeah. tl;dr I've reworked the user guide to be actually about users (== member role in the new RBAC)
15:15:05 <dtantsur> I also have iSCSI clean ups
15:15:43 * dtantsur just adds the hashtag
15:15:45 <arne_wiebalck> rpittau: done
15:16:11 <rpittau> sounds good, I have an entire topic, but I think it will be merged anyway https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22ipa-builder-stable%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)
15:16:19 <openstackgerrit> Lin PeiWen proposed openstack/ironic stable/wallaby: Delete unavailable py2 package  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/790439
15:16:29 <rpittau> thanks arne_wiebalck
15:17:32 <dtantsur> I've added my stuff, let me know if I'm crazy :)
15:17:46 * dtantsur sees a fresh merge conflict :(
15:18:00 <rpittau> dtantsur: that looks ok to me :)
15:18:09 <rpittau> not the conflict, the list :)
15:18:19 <dtantsur> :D
15:18:34 <rpittau> anyone else has any priority for the week ?
15:18:40 <openstackgerrit> Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Upgrade guide: remove ancient versions and group with Installation  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/790386
15:18:41 <openstackgerrit> Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Rework the user guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/790387
15:19:40 <rpittau> crickets whisper no
15:19:48 <openstackgerrit> Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Expand the deployment guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/790396
15:20:01 <rpittau> #topic Discussion
15:20:28 <rpittau> dtantsur: you have a discussion topic
15:20:36 <dtantsur> yep
15:20:50 <dtantsur> #link  https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2008880 Get rid of vendor prefixes for common driver_info fields
15:20:57 <dtantsur> This is related to one of the priorities btw
15:21:16 <dtantsur> One of the proposed themes for Xena is cleaning up drivers and stuff around them
15:21:38 <dtantsur> This is a proposal to start dropping vendor prefixes from driver_info fields that have the same meaning across different drivers
15:21:43 <dtantsur> any objections/concerns?
15:22:46 <rpittau> not really, I think it makes sense
15:22:56 <arne_wiebalck> sounds sensible to me
15:23:56 <rloo> how are people going to xsition to the new naming, if they're using the old ones? via db migration?
15:24:11 <rloo> i'm good with the idea
15:25:02 <dtantsur> for now via release notes
15:25:22 <dtantsur> we can just keep the old prefixes supported forever. it's not expensive.
15:25:42 <rloo> oh, ok. so support both then.
15:26:03 <arne_wiebalck> support == support with a deprecation warning?
15:26:23 <rloo> deprecation means that we're going to remove support.
15:26:43 <rloo> do we want to remove support, or continue to support?
15:26:51 <arne_wiebalck> support  both means no cleanup :)
15:26:56 <rloo> (i don't feel strongly either way but we should decide)
15:27:26 <dtantsur> previously we would remove things like this in a cycle or two
15:28:58 <rloo> are we early enuf in the cycle that we can remove next cycle and add a db migration? that might be best.
15:29:06 <rpittau> deprecation and removal sounds more clean to me
15:29:25 <arne_wiebalck> rpittau: ++
15:29:36 <rpittau> what rloo wrote basically
15:32:44 <rpittau> dtantsur: wdyt?
15:32:56 <dtantsur> I'll see if I have time for a database migration (help welcome)
15:33:14 * dtantsur has added a task for it
15:33:23 <rpittau> sounds good, thanks!
15:34:14 <rpittau> we don't have other Discussions planned
15:34:29 <rpittau> #topic Baremetal SIG
15:34:44 <rpittau> don't forget Baremetal SIG meeting is tomorrow at 02:00 pm UTC, "topic-of-the-day" presentation by Arne Wiebalck (arne_wiebalck) on "Why Ironic? (The Case of Ironic in CERN IT)"
15:35:14 <VoochkO> dtantsur with that ipa initrd I am not able to come to booting. whatever parameters for debug I configure. I load the kernel with options that secure the verbose output with  "linux /vmlinuz nofb nomodeset gfxmode text". This goes well and than it blocks when I type "initrd /initrd" in grub. I can not come to "boot" command at all to see any
15:35:14 <VoochkO> output
15:35:32 <arne_wiebalck> I think that is it for the SIG, thanks rpittau :)
15:35:42 <rpittau> VoochkO: we're in the middle of our meeting, let's talk about that later?
15:35:52 <rpittau> arne_wiebalck: thanks :)
15:36:39 <rpittau> there were no new RFE proposed to discuss, so we can move on directly to
15:36:40 <rpittau> #topic Open Discussion
15:37:02 <rpittau> anything to discuss that we didn't talk about in the meeting?
15:37:53 <dtantsur> FYI I'll be out on Thu and Fri
15:38:06 <rpittau> ^ same plus next monday
15:38:10 <dtantsur> .. in a desperate attempt to get enough sleep
15:38:23 <rpittau> heh
15:38:29 <rloo> dtantsur: thx for starting the sushi-cli discussion. is there anything we ought to discuss about that here?
15:38:48 <dtantsur> I assume we've reached a consensus and no objections have been voiced
15:38:54 <rloo> email thread I mean
15:39:02 <dtantsur> I just don't have any time to actually work on the said deprecation
15:39:06 <dtantsur> (help welcome)
15:39:13 <rloo> i'm good with it too so yeah.
15:39:32 <rloo> if we aren't using it now, what does 'deprecation' mean anyway?
15:39:54 <rpittau> I guess unless someone comes forward and volunteer to actively maintain the project we cna move forward and deprecate it
15:41:12 <rpittau> we proba bly need to remove it from releases
15:41:29 <dtantsur> there is a documented procedure for that
15:41:59 <dtantsur> https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/repository.html#retiring-a-repository
15:42:27 <rpittau> I can have a look, not sure if this week though
15:43:02 <rpittau> do we want to retire or deprecate ?
15:44:27 <rpittau> retiring makes more sense to me as I don't think we want to maintain any branch
15:44:37 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/ironic master: Avoid unnecessary validation in boot interfaces  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/789591
15:44:48 <dtantsur> yep, I meant retiring
15:44:56 <rpittau> ok
15:45:28 <openstackgerrit> Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic stable/wallaby: Avoid unnecessary validation in boot interfaces  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/790441
15:45:39 <rpittau> any objections/concerns/questions on that ?
15:46:41 <rpittau> ok, seems we're good
15:46:46 <rpittau> #topic Who is going to run the next meeting?
15:47:21 <dtantsur> I can do it
15:48:59 <rpittau> sounds good, iurygregory also volunteered as I switched with him for today, but should be fine and we'll have more meetings! :)
15:49:37 <rpittau> that's all folks!
15:49:45 <rpittau> #endmeeting