15:00:16 <iurygregory> #startmeeting ironic
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15:00:16 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
15:00:22 <TheJulia> o/
15:00:24 <iurygregory> Hello everyone o/
15:00:25 <rpittau> o/
15:00:27 <rpioso> \o
15:00:32 <iurygregory> welcome to our weekly meeting :D
15:01:03 <TheJulia> o/
15:01:13 <ajya> o/
15:01:21 <iurygregory> we don't have a big agenda, so it will probably be a quick meeting (and we don't have quorum it seems =) )
15:01:41 <iurygregory> you can find the agenda in the wiki
15:01:43 <iurygregory> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting
15:01:55 <iurygregory> #topic Announcements / Reminder
15:02:13 <iurygregory> #info ML thread - Thoughts on closing some branches
15:02:19 <iurygregory> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-June/029274.html
15:02:50 <iurygregory> today I've sent this email to the ML, feel free to provide feedback =)
15:02:56 <TheJulia> sounds good to me
15:02:59 <iurygregory> I
15:03:09 <iurygregory> I'm planing in open the request next monday
15:03:16 <TheJulia> k
15:03:21 <iurygregory> if no objections on the ML
15:03:26 <TheJulia> I may have patches that would need to be abandoned, that is fine
15:03:57 <iurygregory> we can try to get them merged I would say I will make a list of open patches in all branches
15:04:11 <iurygregory> not sure if CI will help (it will depend on the branch)
15:04:41 <iurygregory> Does anyone have anything that would like to add to Announcements / Reminder ?
15:04:57 <TheJulia> uhh
15:05:44 <TheJulia> Likely worth mentioning we're having a lot of issues with CI. In particular emulated VM performance which we have some "fixes" for, as well as issues with NetworkManager on centos9 not honoring dhcp properly.
15:06:15 <stendulker> o/
15:06:28 <iurygregory> CI at least for master was in a better shape after your patches TheJulia (so I didn't mention)
15:06:59 <iurygregory> re cs9 I wasn't aware of that, I will add to the etherpad in case is not there yet
15:07:27 <TheJulia> iurygregory: go ahead and add it please
15:07:33 <iurygregory> will do =)
15:07:33 <TheJulia> it is the conenctivity issues from what I can tell
15:07:53 <TheJulia> I'm trying to get more info out of it but all the tricks dont' seem to work, so I might have to reproduce locally or something
15:08:08 <TheJulia> actually, I should just ask infra to hold a job
15:08:14 <iurygregory> ack
15:08:26 * TheJulia will do that after the meeting
15:09:43 <iurygregory> ok, moving on
15:10:24 <iurygregory> we don't have action items, skipping
15:10:39 <iurygregory> #topic Review subteam status reports
15:10:56 <iurygregory> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard
15:11:08 <iurygregory> starting on L75
15:12:03 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/ironic bugfix/20.2: CI: Add iweb to the use tinyipa on list  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/847661
15:12:29 <TheJulia> \o/
15:13:01 <iurygregory> *magic*
15:13:02 <iurygregory> :D
15:15:15 <iurygregory> not much to add in the status, I think we can move on
15:16:36 <iurygregory> #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week
15:16:47 <iurygregory> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/status:open+hashtag:ironic-week-prio
15:17:12 <TheJulia> I'd kind of like https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/839084 to get some eyes
15:17:28 <TheJulia> but it is not high on my priority list (in other words, I just want to get it off my plate)
15:18:40 <iurygregory> np from me
15:18:57 <iurygregory> I've added some patches to fix CI in our bugfix/20.2 for ironic
15:19:10 <TheJulia> iurygregory: ack
15:19:34 <iurygregory> since we need to get jobs running on it
15:19:58 <iurygregory> and we also need https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/847657
15:20:07 <iurygregory> hopefully CI will be happy :D
15:20:58 <iurygregory> it's already a backport so I added to the list =)
15:22:04 <iurygregory> anyone have more patches that needs review? I know we have some patches that needs attention already (but since CI was in a bad shape we had to fix it first)
15:22:47 <rpittau> I think I added a couple already
15:22:54 <rpittau> mainly Ci fixes
15:23:01 <iurygregory> rpittau, tks!
15:23:30 <rpittau> oh yeah I will add one more as it's just missing approval https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/775391
15:24:02 <rpittau> done, thanks
15:24:43 <TheJulia> fixed ;)
15:25:00 <iurygregory> ok, moving on o/
15:25:03 <rpittau> ah thanks! :)
15:25:07 <iurygregory> #topic Baremetal SIG
15:25:20 <iurygregory> arne is not around today
15:25:31 <iurygregory> TheJulia, do you have something for the SIG?
15:25:47 <TheJulia> I don't *really*, at least that I've not had a chance to talk with arne_wiebalck about
15:26:03 <TheJulia> I migh thave a lead on a talk or three or this fall, maybe starting in August
15:26:20 <iurygregory> nice =)
15:26:47 <iurygregory> skipping RFE review since we don't have any in the agenda
15:26:53 <iurygregory> #topic Open discussion
15:27:01 <iurygregory> do we have something we would like to discuss?
15:27:08 <TheJulia> I guess I have two items
15:27:20 <iurygregory> go ahead =)
15:27:48 <TheJulia> The first, with the RBAC work, there was the direction change from the TC on that admin is actually project scoped but system admin sort of level access
15:27:53 <TheJulia> but we don't have that encoded in our policies
15:28:15 <TheJulia> and I'm curious if anyone would object if we did that, *and* captured the project ID so all resources they create are inherently "owned" outright
15:28:33 <TheJulia> its kind of another slice of access/usage, but could save us some headache
15:28:48 <TheJulia> At least in the OpenStack context
15:29:48 <TheJulia> any concerns/objections?
15:30:05 <iurygregory> after reading "could save us some headache" I'm +1 to it
15:30:15 <TheJulia> k
15:30:25 <rpittau> no objections, that does make sense IMHO
15:30:26 <iurygregory> did they update the docs or something about this change in RBAC?
15:30:39 <TheJulia> iurygregory: passed an updating resolution
15:30:44 <TheJulia> after we did our work
15:30:52 <iurygregory> TheJulia, got it
15:31:36 <iurygregory> and since is a TC decision (only if we have very strong objections we wouldn't do that I would say...)
15:32:04 <TheJulia> So, other thought which comes to mind. Have we considered kind of re-visioning our position in the OpenStack ecosystem? I'm starting to wonder if being at such a lower layer means we might be better suited to kind of "pull a zuul"...
15:32:21 <iurygregory> ofc it will be good to hear the thoughts from operators etc (maybe arne_wiebalck since they are moving with RBAC if I recall)
15:32:23 <TheJulia> iurygregory: well, tc decisions are basically non-binding, fwiw
15:32:47 <TheJulia> they are recommendations with potential threat of non-compliance of being booted from openstack
15:33:32 <TheJulia> Going back to vision, I guess it is time to revisit overall
15:34:26 <iurygregory> re-vision ++ from, I was planning in write an email about this (since we will probably need to reach out our contributors )
15:34:43 <TheJulia> Re, the change, that is a good point, I wonder how it would impact arne_wiebalck’s environment
15:35:51 <TheJulia> I think we should hold several discussions, say over the next two months to try and see where we have consensus as to where we’re at and where we’re going
15:36:01 <iurygregory> ++
15:37:16 <iurygregory> probably bring up in the next meeting (see if we have more folks that would engage in the discussion)
15:37:33 <TheJulia> ++
15:37:34 <iurygregory> and after that maybe start a thread in the openstack-discuss
15:38:11 <TheJulia> ++
15:38:13 <TheJulia> sounds good to me
15:39:17 <iurygregory> cool
15:40:22 <iurygregory> I think that's all for open discussion right TheJulia ?
15:40:34 <TheJulia> yup, all from me
15:40:41 <iurygregory> ok o/
15:41:04 <iurygregory> #topic Who is going to run the next meeting?
15:41:34 <iurygregory> Do we have any volunteer?
15:42:32 <iurygregory> I will run the next meeting o/
15:42:36 <iurygregory> Thanks everyone!
15:42:51 <iurygregory> #endmeeting