15:00:00 <iurygregory> #startmeeting ironic
15:00:00 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Mon Sep 19 15:00:00 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is iurygregory. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:00 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
15:00:05 <iurygregory> o/
15:00:13 <matfechner> o/
15:00:23 <iurygregory> hello ironicers, welcome to our weekly meeting
15:00:42 <JayF> o/
15:01:08 <TheJulia> o/
15:01:20 <ajya> o/
15:01:33 <erbarr> o/
15:01:35 <iurygregory> you can find our agenda in the wiki page
15:01:40 <iurygregory> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting
15:02:00 <iurygregory> #topic Announcements / Reminder
15:02:15 <iurygregory> we have the result for the doodle \o/
15:02:35 <iurygregory> #info Check PTG Topics - doodle result Tomorrow Sep 20 at 16 UTC
15:03:08 <iurygregory> I will send the information in the ML today (I can also send a calendar invite for those who need one =) )
15:04:00 <iurygregory> please ping me here or send me a dm if you want the calendar invite
15:04:14 <iurygregory> #info Zed release by EOW
15:04:37 <TheJulia> @lecris[m]: https://www.supermicro.com/products/archive/motherboard/x9drt-hf <-- doublecheck that is right
15:05:10 <iurygregory> we will focus on Ironic, ironic-python-agent, inspector and bifrost this week
15:05:22 <lecris[m]> Maybe, saw 3.3 is available
15:06:08 <JayF> iurygregory: if you need any help doing release work, lmk -- I should learn some of this
15:06:34 <iurygregory> JayF, sure =)
15:07:00 <iurygregory> does anyone have something that would like to add to our Announcements / Reminder ?
15:08:10 <TheJulia> has everyone voted?
15:08:18 <TheJulia> at least, elegeble for voting for PTL/TC?
15:09:12 <JayF> Voting closes in 7 hours, give or take, yeah?
15:09:22 <TheJulia> yup
15:09:28 <iurygregory> great question, I heard a few people voted, other had problems to vote because they didn't have OSF membership etc
15:10:01 * TheJulia raises an eyebrow
15:10:15 <TheJulia> we can circle back to that I guess
15:10:21 <iurygregory> I thought it would close earlier lol
15:10:28 <iurygregory> yeah
15:11:48 <iurygregory> #topic Review subteam status reports
15:12:33 <iurygregory> we probably don't have a lot, but would to check the SQLAlchemy 2.0
15:12:39 <iurygregory> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard
15:13:00 <JayF> I do not know how to run the bug subteam report; it's been ages since it's been properly updated. I did start going through the backlog. ~20 tickets triaged; 5 marked as merged/triaged, 9 closed invalid, rest either left alone or labelled as triage
15:13:13 <JayF> I'm pretty sure at this pace I'm going to eventually get through the backlog, it just is slow work
15:13:28 <JayF> Anyone who has done this kind of triage against storyboard who wants to give me advice on how to be more efficient, please reach out
15:14:11 <iurygregory> not sure how to make more efficient I find it better than jira :D
15:14:44 <JayF> I don't, and I dislike jira, but hey that's life :P
15:14:53 <iurygregory> yes!
15:16:05 <TheJulia> Are there any volunteers for sqlalchemy stuffs on ironic-inspector ?
15:16:21 <iurygregory> I can help with that
15:16:27 <kubajj> Am I also able to edit the white board? (line 152 says WIP, but the change has been merged)
15:16:36 <dtantsur> everyone is
15:16:47 <iurygregory> kubajj, yeah, everyone can update =)
15:18:26 <iurygregory> I think we can move on
15:19:58 <iurygregory> #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week
15:20:29 <iurygregory> our focus for this week is important patches for ironic, inspector, ipa, bifrost that we want to include in the Zed release
15:20:30 <TheJulia> I... think I can mark the RBAC stuffs as basically minus more tempest tests
15:20:53 <dtantsur> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/858099 is a fix for the last failing bifrost job
15:20:56 <TheJulia> err, basically done
15:21:34 <iurygregory> ok now I understand =), I was a bit lost with the minus
15:21:35 <kubajj> I don't know how important it is, but this one passed zuul after dtantsur changed the grenade test https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-inspector/+/853304
15:21:39 <iurygregory> tks TheJulia
15:22:28 <JayF> kubajj: I gave that #ironic-week-prio and a +2
15:22:42 <kubajj> thanks JayF
15:23:25 <ajya> wouldn't mind https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/855872 getting in Zed - it's already in the prio list
15:25:07 <TheJulia> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/852694 <-- would be nice as well
15:25:46 <iurygregory> ajya, ack
15:25:54 <iurygregory> TheJulia, ok
15:29:31 <iurygregory> ok, moving on
15:29:40 <iurygregory> #topic Baremetal SIG
15:29:52 <iurygregory> wondering if we have any updates for it
15:29:59 <iurygregory> JayF, tks for sending the email
15:30:12 <JayF> I spoke with some of the devrel experts downstream here at GR-OSS, but didn't get much actionable feedback :|
15:30:45 <JayF> One thing that was said, that I think we should consider -- is asking cores/contributors of Ironic to give a short talk on a new/lesser known feature when we don't have an external presentation
15:30:59 <JayF> which I think is a decent idea; except that putting more work on contributors is probably unreasonable
15:31:32 <TheJulia> We've also done that unless we want to do presentation on super minor things
15:31:47 <TheJulia> then again... each cycle brings new things
15:31:48 <iurygregory> it would be interesting, I think we did some presentations on this style...
15:32:02 <JayF> bluntly, the presentation is just the honey to get folks in ... the real value is in discussion and getting folks in one place
15:32:15 <JayF> but AIUI there's been little interest in attending a SIG without a talk so...
15:33:11 <TheJulia> I've had some people tell me it is an issue of a lack of a standing meeting invite
15:33:57 <TheJulia> and where we *have* gotten invites sent out to end operators, we've tended to have far better participation
15:34:02 <iurygregory> hummm
15:34:24 <JayF> I am onboard to create and maintain such an invite, but I have no idea who to initially populate it with
15:34:45 <TheJulia> cores, if it is on google, we can all edit it with a google account
15:34:54 <iurygregory> yeah
15:34:56 <TheJulia> and invite more people *insert evil laugh here*
15:35:05 <iurygregory> I wouldn't mind doing this
15:35:38 <TheJulia> granted... the meetings system does icals... but that requires people to go find, and be willing to just add to their own calendar
15:35:42 <TheJulia> a few... extra steps
15:35:42 <JayF> It occurs to me both my emails are on weird TLDs (personal = .cc, work = .io) so maybe someone with a three digit TLD should own it anyway lol
15:36:34 <TheJulia> I could create something, but I think we should discuss time/day
15:36:55 <JayF> One of us should reply to the on-list thread with a doodle and the outcome of this conversation
15:37:03 <TheJulia> my limiting factor has been the use of the 2nd or third tuesday in the month which collides with higher level meetings
15:37:34 <iurygregory> I can create the doodle and answer in the thread JayF
15:37:59 <JayF> ack, thank you
15:38:11 <TheJulia> and we could do some sort presentations based upon added features, I think
15:38:18 <TheJulia> at least from this past cycle
15:38:25 <iurygregory> wondering if google would be the best thing to use, but we can discuss this after the meeting probably
15:39:23 <iurygregory> also since at the PTG we will have operators it would be good to raise this during the PTG (I think)
15:39:57 <JayF> that's actually a really good idea, and not far away
15:40:06 <JayF> maybe worth just tabling the actual scheduling until post-PTG
15:41:49 <iurygregory> more thoughts on it?
15:44:21 <iurygregory> ok, let's do this =)
15:44:24 <iurygregory> moving on
15:44:35 <iurygregory> #topic RFE review
15:44:47 <iurygregory> JayF, you added a topic =)
15:44:58 <JayF> I mean, I'm "up" theoretically, but this is one of the bugs I ran across in triage
15:45:09 <JayF> it's a reasonable RFE, we should probably do it, I'm +1 but wanted to put it thru the process
15:46:07 <JayF> https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2009872 optionally turn machines off after cleaning failure
15:47:11 <JayF> Are there any comments or disagreements? If I don't hear any I'm going to make this as RFE-approved. It's a reasonable request, and it's smart to make it configurable so if there's any harm in powering off after some failures (e.g. firmware failure), it'll have been done by a non-default config
15:47:46 <TheJulia> that seems like a bug as well
15:47:52 <TheJulia> in that the clean fault should be cleared out upon start
15:48:10 <TheJulia> what they are describing is behavior where it does not
15:48:17 <JayF> oh, interesting, I missed that nuance
15:48:33 <JayF> I'll put that comment there and split the RFE from the bug part, and ask for more details on the bug piece
15:48:37 <TheJulia> ++
15:48:44 <TheJulia> we might have quietly already fixed that without realizing that
15:48:48 <TheJulia> but worth double checking
15:48:52 <TheJulia> and fixing if not
15:49:04 <iurygregory> ++
15:49:07 <TheJulia> I think it makes sense to allow operators to say "turn off even if it failed"
15:49:26 <TheJulia> but we just need a giant warning "if you've bricked things, not our fault"
15:49:46 <TheJulia> We can do that by conveying "why we leave power on"
15:49:51 <TheJulia> in the event of a failure
15:50:12 <JayF> Oh yeah, absolutely
15:50:28 <iurygregory> yeah, we don't want to receive the blame :D
15:50:37 <JayF> I'll split off an RFE, marked approved, for that feature and I've already asked the user in that ticket for more details on the bug
15:50:49 <JayF> you both know I wouldn't implement this in any kind of dangerous way, I'm a hardware-chicken lol
15:51:02 <iurygregory> tks JayF
15:51:49 <iurygregory> #topic Open discussion
15:51:50 <opendevreview> Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/bifrost stable/yoga: Do not install grub2 and shim on the host system  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/858391
15:52:03 <iurygregory> does anyone have something that would like to discuss?
15:52:17 <TheJulia> iurygregory: I've already felt horrible once when someone bricked a bunch of SSDs :(  I'm just glad we were able to help them get them recovered
15:52:37 <TheJulia> I had a thought of something semi-important, then it ran away
15:52:50 <TheJulia> I think it is standing next to the coffee maker demanding MOAR COFFEEEEEEE
15:52:50 <iurygregory> oh .-.
15:53:00 <iurygregory> coffee \o/
15:53:39 * iurygregory is happy because he bought more coffee capsules to use in the machine :D
15:53:46 <kubajj> Not to discuss, but I just wanted to let you know that now I have officially started my 4th year project and I will be working on the Integration of inspector into ironic https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2010275
15:53:56 <dtantsur> \o/
15:54:00 <iurygregory> kubajj, \o/ nice
15:54:04 <JayF> Nice to hear it kubajj, it'll be nice to have you staying around \o/
15:55:04 <kubajj> So probably expect me asking couple of questions about inspector soon 😄
15:55:23 <JayF> as long as you have a comically large magnifying glass while you ask them :P
15:55:24 <dtantsur> I'm all yours, you can blame me for most of its misdesign :D
15:55:50 <kubajj> Thanks
15:56:06 <TheJulia> kubajj: awesome!
15:56:11 <arne_wiebalck> kubajj: \o/
15:56:44 <TheJulia> kubajj: if you want to solve data model stuffs first, sqlalchemy 2.0 compatability is fun! :)
15:56:57 * TheJulia should actually look at that this week
15:56:59 <dtantsur> "fun"
15:57:02 <iurygregory> "fun"
15:57:04 <iurygregory> :D
15:57:04 <TheJulia> heh
15:57:07 <TheJulia> Can you blame me?!
15:57:25 <iurygregory> I think I heard some evil laugh
15:57:30 <dtantsur> We can even complain to Mr Corgi about your behavior
15:57:32 <iurygregory> :D
15:57:41 <iurygregory> dtantsur, lol
15:57:48 <kubajj> TheJulia: I need to complete the first step in the storyboard first as I defined it as a minimal objective for the project.
15:59:05 <TheJulia> dtantsur: mr corgi is presently glaring at me... But I think he wants to go for a alk
15:59:06 <TheJulia> walk
15:59:16 <iurygregory> corgi wins
15:59:23 <dtantsur> always
15:59:31 <iurygregory> thanks everyone o/
16:00:00 <iurygregory> #endmeeting