15:00:02 <iurygregory> #startmeeting ironic
15:00:02 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Mon Mar 13 15:00:02 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is iurygregory. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:02 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
15:00:07 <TheJulia> o/
15:00:10 <matfechner> o/
15:00:24 <iurygregory> Hello ironicers, welcome to our weekly meeting!
15:00:26 <iurygregory> o/
15:00:56 <iurygregory> you can find the agenda for our meeting in the wiki
15:00:59 <iurygregory> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting
15:01:51 <iurygregory> #topic Announcements / Reminder
15:02:11 <iurygregory> #info All ironic projects already have stable/2023.1(antelope), master is tracking 2023.2 (bobcat)
15:02:36 <iurygregory> #info The Antelope coordinated release will happen on Wednesday, 22 March, 2023.
15:03:07 <dtantsur> o/
15:03:23 <iurygregory> Thank you all contributors!
15:03:40 <iurygregory> #info Standing reminder to review patches tagged ironic-week-prio and to hashtag any patches ready for review with ironic-week-prio: https://tinyurl.com/ironic-weekly-prio-dash
15:04:05 <iurygregory> #topic Review action items from previous meeting
15:04:43 <iurygregory> #info We had one action item "JayF To look into VMT for Ironic", considering done since he did
15:05:08 <iurygregory> #topic Review Ironic CI status & update whiteboard if needed
15:05:41 <iurygregory> Does anyone have something to say about our current CI status? something we need to keep an eye, etc
15:07:30 <iurygregory> ok, moving on
15:07:34 <dtantsur> #info The experimental metal3 job has merged
15:07:48 <iurygregory> oh right, good catch dtantsur =)
15:08:09 <iurygregory> thanks dtantsur and rpittau for the work on it
15:08:37 <iurygregory> #topic VirtualPDU
15:08:49 <iurygregory> #info VirtualPDU repo rename from x/virtualpdu -> openstack/virtualpdu is tentatively scheduled for April 7
15:09:10 <iurygregory> #topic Ironic Bobcat vPTG
15:09:21 <TheJulia> Is there a schedule yet?
15:09:22 <kubajj> o/
15:09:26 <kaloyankotlarski> o/
15:09:29 <iurygregory> #info Scheduling - please review and respond to the scheduling message on the list.
15:09:33 <iurygregory> #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-March/032641.html
15:09:37 <iurygregory> TheJulia, ^
15:09:39 <TheJulia> Thanks
15:09:43 * TheJulia had not seen that yet
15:10:23 <iurygregory> everyone, please try to read JayF email above in openstack-discuss about the schedule for the bobcat PTG
15:10:59 <iurygregory> #info Participate in the planning etherpad
15:11:06 <iurygregory> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/ironic-bobcat-ptg
15:12:52 <iurygregory> #topic Ironic Vulnerability management
15:13:19 <iurygregory> JayF started a ML thread few weeks ago
15:13:35 <iurygregory> #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-March/032658.html
15:14:43 <iurygregory> if no objections are raised in the ML or during our meeting, we will apply ironic to be VMT-managed
15:14:52 <rpittau> o/ (late)
15:15:06 <iurygregory> feel free to let us know here on irc or in the ML =)
15:17:02 <iurygregory> ok, next topic in our agenda is from dtantsur
15:17:06 <iurygregory> #topic Hosting full IPA images on tarballs.opendev.org
15:17:12 * dtantsur wonders if we have quorum
15:17:15 <dtantsur> anyway
15:17:38 <dtantsur> As you might have heard, the TripleO team is wrapping up its development
15:18:02 <dtantsur> metal3 is currently relying on images built by RDO, tested in the TripleO CI and published, again, on the RDO resources
15:18:36 <dtantsur> the 2nd part of this chain is gone, there probably will be some sort of a replacement, but I wonder if metal3 (being an upstream FOSS project) should consume the IPA images we publish
15:18:45 <dtantsur> (yeah, I missed IPA in the explanation)
15:19:07 <dtantsur> the problem: metal3 relies on the extra-hardware element (and having multipath-io probably won't hurt either)
15:19:10 <TheJulia> I suspect there may not be pure midstream like there is today, and recommend that as an upstream community, metal3 consume images from another upstream project.
15:19:22 <dtantsur> right
15:19:38 <dtantsur> The current CS9 image is 390M, adding extra-hardware will bring it to 410M
15:19:50 <TheJulia> not horrible in the slightest
15:20:20 <TheJulia> The default is RDO images right now, which I believe would be larger?
15:20:27 <dtantsur> roughly the same, it seems
15:20:30 <rpittau> it's smaller than older images we have there
15:20:32 <TheJulia> oh, okay
15:21:16 <dtantsur> in theory, since RDO supports Ironic, it should publish some IPA images
15:21:27 <dtantsur> but that's my understanding, I don't know what RDO people think
15:21:35 <dtantsur> that's probably not the biggest of their current headaches
15:21:54 <iurygregory> we can talk with rdo folks to see what they think
15:22:05 <dtantsur> I did, they don't know 100% yet
15:22:24 <iurygregory> oh ok
15:22:51 <dtantsur> Another approach would be to see if we can rid metal3 of dependency on extra-hardware
15:23:01 <TheJulia> Yeah, RDO as a project has been modeleda round TripleO, there will still be a packaging need, but not quite like what exists today, so the form and shape given pre-existing usage will still shape and influence things moving forward
15:23:04 <dtantsur> then it can use the images we publish today
15:23:32 <TheJulia> what does it use extra-hardware for anyway?
15:23:35 <TheJulia> could it be optional?
15:24:52 <dtantsur> Firmware information (versions) and NIC speeds
15:25:11 <dtantsur> If these are easy to get, maybe we should add them to the IPA inventory..
15:25:42 <dtantsur> TheJulia: check what uses "Extra" in https://github.com/metal3-io/baremetal-operator/blob/main/pkg/provisioner/ironic/hardwaredetails/hardwaredetails.go
15:28:28 <TheJulia> I could see some of that being rather useful
15:29:01 <dtantsur> Okay, so I have some more homework to do :) Thanks all!
15:29:32 <dtantsur> I may end up extending IPA indeed. Or come back with the same proposal :)
15:29:43 <iurygregory> thanks dtantsur
15:29:55 <iurygregory> #topic Open discussion
15:30:32 <iurygregory> anything else we should discuss today?
15:30:57 <TheJulia> coffee. Lots of coffeeeeeee
15:31:13 <iurygregory> coffee++
15:31:25 <iurygregory> Thanks everyone! See you next week!
15:31:28 <iurygregory> #endmeeting