15:00:10 <rpittau> #startmeeting ironic
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15:00:10 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
15:00:38 <masghar> o/
15:00:50 <TheJulia> o/
15:00:53 <rpittau> hello everyone!
15:01:01 <rpittau> Welcome to our weekly meeting!
15:01:01 <rpittau> The meeting agenda can be found here:
15:01:01 <rpittau> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_September_23.2C_2024
15:01:23 <rpittau> going to give a minute or two for people to show up
15:02:49 <JayF> o/
15:02:53 <JayF> welcome back rpittau
15:02:56 <rpittau> thanks :)
15:03:18 <rpittau> alright let's start, not a lot of things today, mostly announcements
15:03:25 <rpittau> #topic Announcements/Reminders
15:03:34 <cid> o/
15:03:40 <rpittau> Standing reminder to review patches tagged ironic-week-prio and to hashtag any patches ready for review with ironic-week-prio:
15:03:40 <rpittau> #link https://tinyurl.com/ironic-weekly-prio-dash
15:04:08 <rpittau> looks like we have some outstanding patches there but the situation seems ok
15:05:24 <rpittau> 2024.2 Dalmatian Release Schedule
15:05:24 <rpittau> #link  https://releases.openstack.org/dalmatian/schedule.html
15:05:24 <rpittau> 1 week left to the official release!
15:05:24 <rpittau> all ironic projects have been released!
15:05:24 <rpittau> thank everyone!
15:06:01 <cardoe> So I don't actually know how to tag other people's patches with the weekly prio
15:06:30 <rpittau> cardoe: you need to add the ironic-week-prio tag
15:06:41 <cardoe> There's a handful of docs updates that Jay and Julia have made that I think would be good for us to get over the finish line for the release.
15:06:57 <cardoe> My guess is the docs usually get the most eyeballs around a release.
15:06:58 <rpittau> cardoe: there's an Hashtags field
15:07:31 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/ironic master: Fix typo in parameter description  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/930121
15:07:34 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/ironic master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/930100
15:07:34 <JayF> cardoe: release is already done, fwiw, so those are locked in. We could backport if meaningful
15:07:58 <cardoe> Well it'll update the "latest" docs which is what users will likely look at.
15:08:00 <JayF> cardoe: obviously anything landed goes in /latest/, but for the dalmation-specific urls, we have to backport if desired
15:08:07 <cardoe> Since looking at specific versions of docs is hard.
15:08:20 <TheJulia> Docs backports are easy/low cost as well
15:08:46 <cardoe> Where can I add the weekly tag? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yLmY2fng/image.png
15:08:54 <JayF> TheJulia: ++ that is basically the direction I was going
15:09:02 <rpittau> cardoe: you need to click on Show All
15:09:08 <JayF> cardoe: show all in top left, that'll expose hashtag, then add it
15:09:10 <rpittau> then you'll see the Hashtags field
15:09:17 <JayF> cardoe: if you don't have access as a non-core, we can fix the acl
15:09:24 <JayF> but I *think* we already fixed it
15:09:31 <rpittau> I think that's open for everyone
15:09:54 <cardoe> I can't edit it https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SRsQFq7D/image.png
15:09:57 <TheJulia> I think it is restricted to cores *and* creators
15:10:13 <rpittau> ok, I remember wrong
15:10:18 <cardoe> I know I'm derailing. So I apologize.
15:10:21 <rpittau> then a core will have to do that
15:10:30 <rpittau> moving back to the meeting :)
15:10:30 <dtantsur> we might need a group like "ironic-trusted-contributors"
15:10:33 <TheJulia> no worries
15:10:41 <cardoe> Just saying I'm willing to help triage the patch queue for you guys.
15:11:10 <rpittau> #info the next OpenInfra PTG which will take place October 21-25, 2024 virtually!
15:11:10 <rpittau> don't forget to register!
15:11:10 <rpittau> #link https://ptg.openinfra.dev/
15:11:10 <rpittau> Ironic team has been registered!
15:11:10 <rpittau> Add your name and topics to the etherpad
15:11:11 <rpittau> #link  https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/ironic-ptg-october-2024
15:11:27 <JayF> honestly I'm just +1 to putting that access behind "any logged in user" until/unless we have evidence it's being abused
15:11:31 <JayF> we don't have to lock every door :D
15:12:04 <rpittau> JayF: I thought it was already like that, but to be honest I'd rather keep some margin of control to avoid any abuse
15:12:34 <JayF> What abuse? There's not a slew of low-quality patches invading our priority queue :)
15:12:48 <JayF> maybe someone setting hashtag:buy-my-crapdotcom
15:12:59 <rpittau> hashtags are not project-related
15:13:21 <rpittau> any patch can be added potentially
15:13:29 <rpittau> that's an easy way to clog a board
15:13:47 <JayF> I would embrace the problem of too many patches to review in the queue :D
15:14:22 <TheJulia> Anyway PTG!
15:14:31 <rpittau> yep
15:14:45 <rpittau> #topic PTG time slots and planning
15:15:10 <rpittau> so I've reviewd the etherpad of the PTG topics and it loks like we have quite a fwe
15:15:16 <rpittau> I was thinking to go like last time
15:15:45 <TheJulia> which was?
15:15:49 <rpittau> 3 days, 2-3 hours per day, plus potentially 1-2 cross-sessions and/or APAC-friendly senssion
15:16:25 <JayF> I'd suggest we make sure to do a round trip about *when* to have those PTG sessions again, I know we have contributors from more varied parts of the world now
15:16:36 <TheJulia> seems reasonable, but we likely need to look at the time windows and if topics exceed time windows we have for 2-3 hours a day, then we need to try to avoid compressing the window for topics
15:16:49 <JayF> I'd rather book more time than we need and get it back than vice-versa
15:17:10 <rpittau> yep, we can go for 4 hours, or even add 1 more day
15:17:45 <JayF> we do also at least have one desired cross-team session w/neutron
15:17:55 <rpittau> I was planning to send a mail to see if there's anyone interested in an APAC-friendly session
15:18:07 <rpittau> and yes about the cross session I was mainly thinkgin about neutron
15:19:27 <rpittau> anyone wants to check with neutron people for a feasible time/day?
15:20:13 <TheJulia> I don't think they have established a schedule
15:20:17 <TheJulia> so we likely need to begin time windowing
15:20:21 <TheJulia> and then reach out from there
15:20:48 <rpittau> yeah, I'd like to start booking our time slots first anyway
15:21:47 <TheJulia> so PTL ballpark estimate on existing topics
15:21:57 <rpittau> yep
15:22:00 <TheJulia> and then begin reserve based upon that, with some author outreach
15:22:54 <rpittau> yes
15:22:54 <rpittau> I'll have that done hopefully this week
15:24:08 <TheJulia> ok
15:24:10 <opendevreview> Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Refactoring: get rid of AgentDeployMixin  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/930203
15:24:43 <rpittau> I've added a caracal retrospective topic at the very top
15:25:10 <TheJulia> JayF: separate from meeting, if there is interesting in graphical consoles on your end in read-only mode as well, then maybe it might be worth while to have a separate graphical consoles session. I'm super hesitant and I think that might be a good middle ground, but read-only is likely more complicated.
15:25:39 <JayF> TheJulia: *literally* my only requirement is "some way to see the output from the console without allowing access to put things on the console"
15:25:45 <JayF> text/graphical, I don't care
15:25:55 <TheJulia> hmmmm
15:25:59 <TheJulia> Interesting
15:26:32 <JayF> imagine a world where you need upgraded security access to touch the console of a machine with sensitive data on it; but just seeing the output from IPA trying to clean it is allowed
15:26:58 <JayF> Ironic being the arbiter of that access would allow operators to show their security teams that risk does not exist
15:27:06 <JayF> (since Ironic already has root on bmcs, basically)
15:27:37 <TheJulia> Yeah, true
15:27:39 <masghar> That makes sense
15:28:40 <rpittau> anything else for the PTG?
15:29:31 <rpittau> moving on then!
15:29:43 <rpittau> #topic Bug Deputy Updates
15:29:57 <rpittau> anything worth mentioning on the bugs side?
15:30:30 <cid> Nothing, 4 new bugs
15:30:49 <rpittau> cool, thanks cid :)
15:31:21 <rpittau> I can take over bug deputy for this week
15:31:41 <rpittau> I don't see any new RFE to discuss
15:31:58 <cid> rpittau: alright. Ty!
15:32:04 <rpittau> anything more to discuss for today?
15:32:08 <rpittau> np cid :)
15:32:11 <rpittau> thanks to you
15:33:15 <rpittau> alright
15:33:15 <rpittau> I'll end up just announcing that apparently I will be PTL for the epoxy cycle too, and then we'll see! :D
15:33:42 <rpittau> thanks everyone!
15:33:45 <rpittau> #endmeeting