16:05:52 <TheJulia> #startmeeting ironic_bfv
16:05:53 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Dec  7 16:05:52 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:05:56 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_bfv'
16:05:58 <TheJulia> \o/
16:06:11 <TheJulia> Who is here to discuss ironic boot from volume?
16:07:45 * mjturek has been neglecting this meeting
16:07:55 <dtantsur> o/
16:08:14 <mjturek> hey TheJulia, dtantsur
16:08:31 <TheJulia> mjturek: don't feel bad, I've been as well. Apparently the calendar item on my calender is also off by an hour
16:08:42 <TheJulia> s/apparently//
16:08:57 <mjturek> yeah I had noon in my head as well last week
16:09:42 <TheJulia> Our agenda this week, as always can be found on the wiki!
16:09:45 <TheJulia> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-BFV
16:09:56 <TheJulia> #topic Annoucements
16:11:10 <TheJulia> I have no real announcements this week, aside from the iLO BFV spec landed since we last met.
16:11:38 <dtantsur> nice
16:11:40 <mjturek> cool!
16:11:56 <TheJulia> Anyone have anything that needs to be announced, so we have it on the record?
16:12:33 * TheJulia guesses no
16:12:33 <mjturek> nothing from me
16:12:46 <TheJulia> Okay, dtantsur indicated that he had nothing to add this week.
16:12:50 <TheJulia> so moving on!
16:12:54 <TheJulia> #topic Current Status
16:12:59 <TheJulia> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-BFV
16:13:08 <TheJulia> I made some updates to the etherpad, albeit minor.
16:13:44 <TheJulia> I did create bugs for the two midcycle discussion items related to BFV that were raised at the summit.
16:13:55 <TheJulia> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1735478
16:13:56 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1735478 in Ironic "Cinder-less BFV support" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
16:14:13 <TheJulia> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1735474
16:14:13 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1735474 in Ironic "Ensure BFV model allows for multiattach" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Julia Kreger (juliaashleykreger)
16:14:34 <dtantsur> thanks!
16:15:03 <TheJulia> Regarding multiattach, I double checked our data model and we're good, but I need to double check our interaction process with cinder... and by double check think through the entire sequence to make sure we don't need to do anything different.
16:15:24 <TheJulia> Hopefully should have that at least mentally sorted by next week.
16:15:58 <mjturek> TheJulia: cool! is anyone looking into Cinder-less BFV support? If not I would like to start investigating it
16:16:00 <TheJulia> hshinna is not here, so we can't get an update from the nova side of things, I'll reach out to him
16:16:15 <TheJulia> mjturek: nobody yet, it seems like a super easy win actually
16:16:28 <mjturek> awesome, I'll grab it then
16:16:45 <TheJulia> Other items worth noting, the iLO team updated their patch for uefi support today!
16:16:49 <TheJulia> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468288/
16:17:16 <TheJulia> mjturek: Any word on that dib element you were working on?
16:17:44 <mjturek> TheJulia: I'll make sure to push an update this week, I've been bogged down with downstream work for a bit
16:17:49 <mjturek> but it's clearing up
16:18:13 <TheJulia> mjturek: Awesome!  Thanks!
16:18:24 <TheJulia> Totally understandable, just want to make sure we don't forget about it
16:18:26 <mjturek> wrt that, Andreas was suggesting that it may not belong in the DIB repo?
16:18:40 <mjturek> we can leave that for open discussion though
16:19:22 <TheJulia> I think it belongs, because it is still a diskimage related thing, and driving people to have to install other elements for basic use is not ideal. :(
16:19:39 <TheJulia> mjturek: I think that was also a misunderstanding of use, but I think I looked at that comment like a month ago.
16:20:05 <TheJulia> mjturek: I'll try to revisit today as well and put any thoughts in to the review regarding that.
16:20:10 <mjturek> yeah I made the best case I could for it
16:20:21 <TheJulia> Any other current status related things?
16:20:59 <mjturek> i'm good
16:21:21 <TheJulia> I propose we move to open discussion directly, since we don't have any noted priority/planning and topical discussion items.
16:21:29 <mjturek> +1
16:21:54 <TheJulia> #topic Open Discussion
16:22:04 <TheJulia> Do we have anything else to discuss?
16:22:16 <TheJulia> mjturek: actually, by chance have you seen the feedback I sent out from the summit?
16:22:33 <mjturek> TheJulia: I haven't actually, link??
16:22:38 <mjturek> or is it an email?
16:22:50 <TheJulia> mjturek: it was to the mailing list, let me go pull it up
16:23:34 <TheJulia> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124520.html
16:23:41 <mjturek> cool thanks
16:24:33 <TheJulia> no problem, it has a number of bfv related items, and I'm happy to discuss or try and provide additional context (that is if I have it) :)
16:25:51 <mjturek> Sure! so booting nodes from the same volume sounds kind of dangerous. is this a common practice?
16:26:17 <TheJulia> It can be super dangerous, but also super useful depending on the volume's contents
16:26:26 <TheJulia> plus if the volume is read-only......
16:26:32 <TheJulia> then far less dangerous
16:26:59 <mjturek> maybe there should be checks against the nodes? ie, make sure they have the same arch?
16:27:13 <mjturek> or should it be use at your own risk
16:27:18 <TheJulia> It is a useful for the large cluster operators that are doing massively parallel stuff
16:27:37 <TheJulia> mjturek: I was thinking own risk honestly
16:27:53 <mjturek> that makes sense actually, cool stuff
16:28:11 <TheJulia> I spoke with jungleboyj about cinder's standpoint and they are basically taking the same exact stance for multiattach
16:29:08 <mjturek> cool, sounds fair!
16:29:24 <mjturek> is there a bug open? Want me to make one?
16:29:59 <TheJulia> mjturek: there is, it is more data model/interaction related and I'm looking at that since I'm the crazy person who designed it to begin with
16:30:17 <TheJulia> well, designed our storage interface
16:30:24 <mjturek> hahaha okay cool
16:30:34 <TheJulia> or was the question w/r/t cinder and nova multi-attach?
16:30:54 <mjturek> wrt to same volume attach!
16:31:47 <TheJulia> mjturek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1735474
16:31:48 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1735474 in Ironic "Ensure BFV model allows for multiattach" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Julia Kreger (juliaashleykreger)
16:32:04 <TheJulia> Anyway, I think we have nothing more to discuss at the moment
16:32:13 <TheJulia> Anyone have anything else?
16:32:27 <mjturek> thanks, I'm good for now!
16:32:37 * dtantsur too
16:32:46 <TheJulia> Awesome!
16:32:54 <TheJulia> Well, in that case, have a wonderful day!
16:32:59 <TheJulia> #endmeeting