16:01:15 <Sukhdev> #startmeeting ironic_neutron
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16:01:25 <sambetts> o/
16:01:56 <Sukhdev> #topic: Agenda
16:01:57 <jroll> \o
16:02:02 <Sukhdev> #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_April_18.2C_2016
16:02:14 <Sukhdev> #topic: Announcements
16:02:47 <Sukhdev> Today is Uncle Sam's day - be sure to remember to mail your returns
16:03:07 <Sukhdev> Next week is Summit - so, no meeting
16:03:25 <Sukhdev> Do we want to have meeting Monday after summit?
16:03:47 <Sukhdev> considering folks will be traveling - I propose we cancel that meeting as well
16:04:31 <Sukhdev> any objection?
16:04:40 <sambetts> No objections here
16:05:25 <Sukhdev> anybody else?
16:05:46 <Sukhdev> Summit session for Ironic + Neutron
16:06:30 <Sukhdev> I tried to get one on the neutron side, but, was not able to
16:06:47 <sambetts> ah thats a shame :(
16:06:47 <Sukhdev> so we have Tuesday's session - led by jroll
16:07:14 <jroll> yep
16:07:18 <Sukhdev> sambetts : neutron is the largest project in OpenStack - hence, too many initiatives - so, gets very hard
16:07:28 <jroll> sambetts: we need to flesh out the etherpad this week, the sooner the better - want to help me? :)
16:07:37 <sambetts> yeah, sure
16:07:39 <Sukhdev> and there is Friday sessions
16:08:28 <Sukhdev> I spoke with armax - we are going to advertise Tuesday session in neutron core meeting today to make sure we critical mass in Tuesday's session
16:08:33 <Sukhdev> from Neutron side
16:08:54 <sambetts> Great!
16:09:08 <sambetts> the more people we get involved the better
16:09:27 <Sukhdev> Also, we can use Friday PM session
16:09:35 * sambetts leaves Friday
16:10:25 <Sukhdev> oh
16:10:35 <jroll> I also leave friday afternoon
16:11:00 <sambetts> although Flight is 6pm so depending on how long to Airport I'll have to get going mid afternoon
16:11:02 <Sukhdev> jroll : perhaps Friday AM then - depending upon how Tuesday's session goes
16:11:44 <jroll> Sukhdev: I always assume I'll have no free time and only half a brain by friday :P
16:11:46 <Sukhdev> sambetts : you are good if your flight is at 6pm :-)
16:11:58 <jroll> but sure, folks should get together and chat about it
16:12:55 <sambetts> Not sure what else is planned, I know Friday in tokyo we had some ok conversations AM
16:13:10 <Sukhdev> jroll : I thinking if we have to iron out any details or specifics, it is always best to so that way
16:13:15 <jroll> yep
16:13:26 <jroll> I just can't promise I'll be there
16:13:34 <jroll> or rather, be in that conversation
16:13:56 <Sukhdev> jroll : we can always fill you in later
16:14:05 <jroll> yep
16:14:35 <Sukhdev> or get your favourite beer to attract you into the session :-)
16:17:15 <Sukhdev> jroll : do you have etherpad for Tuesday's session?
16:17:16 <jroll> Sukhdev: yep, one sec
16:17:19 <jroll> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-baremetal-networking
16:17:19 <Sukhdev> oh it is empty :-)
16:17:30 <jroll> yeah, exactly :)
16:17:41 <Sukhdev> I was thinking about sharing it in today's neutron core meeting - to get people heads up :-)
16:18:27 <Sukhdev> I will dump sambetts's spec in there
16:18:28 <jroll> I mean, you can share the link
16:18:43 <jroll> oh sam is dumping things now
16:19:07 <Sukhdev> I see it :-)
16:19:26 <Sukhdev> sambetts : perfect - thanks
16:19:39 <Sukhdev> This helps
16:20:12 <Sukhdev> I am not sure neutron folks are aware of this session - e.g. armax did not know about it - I brought it to his attention last Friday
16:20:48 <Sukhdev> This will help - so that we can get some of the critical folks
16:21:00 <armax> Sukhdev: actually I did, but I appreciated the reminder ;)
16:21:16 <Sukhdev> armax : cool -
16:22:02 <Sukhdev> armax : I will add this link to the neutron core meeting agenda
16:22:24 <armax> Sukhdev: thanks
16:22:38 <armax> Sukhdev: I was about to, but if you beat me to it, I won’t mind
16:23:20 <Sukhdev> armax : thanks
16:24:05 <Sukhdev> I see sambetts is at it :-)
16:24:25 <Sukhdev> sambetts : I am watching as you are writing - looking good
16:24:44 <sambetts> Trying to workout what else to add
16:25:46 <Sukhdev> sambetts : just try to be as clear as possible in terms of BM requirements
16:26:04 <Sukhdev> sambetts : most of the people know about VM requirements -
16:26:35 <Sukhdev> this way they can see the similarities and differences
16:26:45 <jroll> this session has nothing to do with VMs
16:27:01 <jroll> we want to discuss bare metal networking
16:27:12 <jroll> the stuff sam's spec proposes, and what we want to do beyond that
16:27:46 <Sukhdev> jroll : right, we do not need to talk about the VM requirements - we only need to specify BM requirements - folks already know about VM requiremets
16:28:02 <jroll> the ultimate goal being to decouple the neutron networking from the physical networking
16:28:43 <jroll> sure, I just don't want this session to be "vlans + baremetal
16:28:45 <jroll> "
16:29:06 <jroll> I want it to be more general
16:29:47 <Sukhdev> the ideal goal is the have a neutron API which works for anyone - virtual/logical and physical devices
16:31:05 <sambetts> Sukhdev: VPC is mode 4 like MLAG
16:31:58 <Sukhdev> sambetts : it's been more than 5 years for me when I head VPC :-)
16:32:15 <Sukhdev> getting foggy:-)
16:32:37 <sambetts> Sukhdev: :) I'm still learning
16:32:45 <Sukhdev> so VPC = MLAG
16:33:17 <sambetts> I believe they are equivolent, from the nodes perspective, just different in the switches
16:33:25 <Sukhdev> LAG to one switch MLAG to multiple
16:33:50 <sambetts> yup
16:34:07 <jroll> and VPC puts extra cables between the switches to do fancy things ya?
16:34:42 <sambetts> there is some crazy stuff in there (that i'm still working out) yeah
16:35:43 <Sukhdev> Many years ago we used to refer to the Service links as VPC links - when DNS nodes connect to the switches
16:36:20 <jroll> do we want to continue the meeting or just work on the etherpad?
16:36:54 <Sukhdev> jroll : I think we are done with the meeting -
16:37:15 <Sukhdev> rest of the agenda is same, meaning, there is nothing really to discuss :-):-)
16:37:32 <jroll> awesome
16:37:47 <Sukhdev> We can finish the meeting - unless somebody has anything they want to bring up?
16:38:09 <jroll> I'm good
16:38:14 <sambetts> Nothing from me its just filling out the etherpad
16:38:16 <jroll> I will add on to this etherpad today or tomorrow
16:39:29 <Sukhdev> sambetts : third requirement - do you mean neutron networks or neutron physical networks ?
16:40:07 <sambetts> neutron physical networks, because BM plugs directly into physnets right
16:40:32 <Sukhdev> not necessarily
16:41:25 <jroll> Sukhdev: here's an example scenario that would solve:
16:41:50 <jroll> 1x 1g NIC, 2x 10g NIC, I want network X on a bond on the 10g links, and network Y on the 1g links
16:43:19 <Sukhdev> jroll : good example - how about expanding it further -
16:43:40 <jroll> Sukhdev: such as?
16:43:51 <Sukhdev> I want to add network Z on 1g links as well
16:44:11 <Sukhdev> i.e. multiple networks on one physical port
16:44:14 <jroll> yep
16:44:22 <jroll> done
16:45:03 <Sukhdev> cool - I see it
16:54:06 <Sukhdev> jroll sambetts and others - I am going to end the meeting - unless you want me to keep it open
16:54:18 <jroll> Sukhdev: I'm good
16:54:31 <sambetts> Nothing else from me as far as I'm aware
16:55:01 <hshiina> hi. we tested the patches with our ml2 driver. it worked well.
16:55:23 <hshiina> i'd like to report it.
16:55:29 <Sukhdev> hshiina : good to hear that
16:55:45 <Sukhdev> hshiina: Thanks for sharing this information - more testing the better
16:56:10 <Sukhdev> hshiina : can you introduce yourself and which ML2 driver did you use?
16:56:41 <hshiina> i'm working for fujitsu. we're developping networking-fujitsu driver.
16:56:57 <hshiina> do you know yushiro?
16:57:16 <Sukhdev> hshiina : yes, I met him in Tokyo
16:57:33 <hshiina> he is a main developer of our driver.
16:57:52 <Sukhdev> hshiina : good to know - thanks for sharing this informaiton
16:58:06 <hshiina> thanks.
16:58:16 <Sukhdev> OK folks, we are done with the meeting
16:58:28 <Sukhdev> Thanks for attending
16:58:32 <Sukhdev> #endmeeting