14:00:11 <mgoddard> #startmeeting kayobe
14:00:12 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Mar  4 14:00:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:16 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'kayobe'
14:00:17 <mgoddard> #topic rollcall
14:00:23 <mgoddard> \o
14:00:40 <priteau> o/
14:00:54 <jovial[m]> \o
14:02:17 <mgoddard> #topic agenda
14:02:20 <mgoddard> * Roll-call
14:02:23 <mgoddard> * Announcements
14:02:25 <mgoddard> ** Denver summit forum CFP is open until March 8th
14:02:27 <mgoddard> * Discussion
14:02:29 <mgoddard> ** Denver forum topic brainstorming https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-train-forum
14:02:31 <mgoddard> ** Introducing the Kayobe whiteboard https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-whiteboard
14:02:33 <mgoddard> ** Stein release planning https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-stein-release
14:02:35 <mgoddard> * Open Discussion
14:02:37 <mgoddard> #topic announcements
14:02:39 <mgoddard> #info Denver summit forum CFP is open until March 8th
14:03:44 <dougsz> hello
14:03:48 <mgoddard> It's the Stein feature freeze this week. Given that we don't yet have any Stein features, I don't think we'll observe
14:03:57 <mgoddard> #info Stein feature freeze this week
14:04:03 <mgoddard> hi dougsz
14:04:14 <mgoddard> Any other announcments?
14:05:04 <priteau> The freeze is only for official projects following the cycle-with-rc model
14:05:05 <dougsz> Congrats on the superuser article: http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/kayobe-5-0-release/
14:05:22 <priteau> +1
14:06:18 <mgoddard> #link https://superuser.openstack.org/articles/kayobe-5-0-release/
14:06:42 <mgoddard> Let's move on
14:06:52 <mgoddard> #topic Denver forum topic brainstorming https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-train-forum
14:07:37 <mgoddard> At the Denver summit, we'll have a chance to propose topics for the forum. The deadline it 8th March
14:07:46 <mgoddard> s/At/For/
14:08:12 <mgoddard> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-train-forum
14:08:29 <mgoddard> we can use the above etherpad to brainstorm topics
14:08:57 <mgoddard> We had a combined user feedback and roadmap session last time
14:09:20 <mgoddard> It worked quite well, although it was a bit of a squeeze to cover both sides of it
14:09:44 <mgoddard> Feedback was definitely valuable
14:10:11 <mgoddard> Anyone have other ideas for things to discuss? Did that format work well (for those who attended)?
14:10:56 <dougsz> Worked well for me
14:11:47 <priteau> I think it worked well. I agree that user feedback is the most important, if there is not enough time roadmap discussion can be done somewhere else
14:13:27 <mgoddard> verdurin: pescobar: ktibi: hi, we're currently in the kayobe IRC meeting, discussing the Denver summit forum topics for Kayobe. Since you attended the last one, please update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-train-forum if you have any ideas for topics to discuss, or feedback on how we could improve based on the last one
14:14:07 <ktibi> mgoddard, sorry, what is the channel for meeting ?
14:14:12 <mgoddard> Unless we see any bright ideas in the next few days, I guess we should stick to the script
14:14:19 <mgoddard> ktibi: you're in it! (this one)
14:14:42 <ktibi> ho god. sorry for that ^^
14:14:55 <mgoddard> no problem!
14:15:05 <mgoddard> Let's move on
14:15:30 <mgoddard> #topic Introducing the Kayobe whiteboard https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-whiteboard
14:16:00 <mgoddard> I created another etherpad, this time for our whiteboard
14:16:07 <mgoddard> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-whiteboard
14:16:44 <mgoddard> It's based on the idea used by ironic for planning, prioritising, etc. and is a key part of each meeting
14:17:48 <priteau> Nice idea
14:18:11 <mgoddard> So far I've added links to the status page for each release, current CI status, planning docs, review priorities and feature status
14:18:24 <mgoddard> It only works if we keep it relatively up to date :)
14:19:03 <mgoddard> Normally in ironic a few key people try to keep it update day to day, but most people just update their feature status prior to each meeting
14:19:37 <dougsz> bookmarked
14:19:37 <mgoddard> A key part of it is review priorities - what should reviewers be focussing on this week?
14:20:21 <mgoddard> so a section of each meeting should be agreeing on those priorities
14:21:09 <mgoddard> because we're at the start of a release, I couldn't see anything of particularly high priority, but if anyone has a patch they'd like eyes on, feel free to add it
14:21:54 <mgoddard> also, if you're working on a feature, please add it to the feature status. I think we can stick to the larger features for this to avoid too much overhead
14:22:17 <mgoddard> Any questions?
14:22:20 <priteau> There are only a few patches on the kayobe project currently. I need to rework mine to integrate feedback.
14:23:34 <mgoddard> Yes, we put in a good effort at the end of Rocky which cleared the backlog nicely
14:24:47 <mgoddard> Onwards and upwards
14:25:11 <ktibi> I'll test upgrade Q=>R soon. A lot of path under approach
14:25:19 <ktibi> patch*
14:25:35 <mgoddard> ktibi: great, look forward to your feedback
14:25:40 <mgoddard> #topic Stein release planning https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-stein-release
14:26:20 <mgoddard> We're getting pretty close to the OpenStack Stein release now. I think if we're going to stay close it's going to need to be a small one for us
14:26:34 <mgoddard> Kolla plan is to feature freeze in 3 weeks
14:27:42 <mgoddard> or rather during the week of March 18th - 21st
14:28:36 <mgoddard> what we might want to consider is a small initial Stein release, then some other feature releases
14:28:44 <mgoddard> (against Stein)
14:28:46 <ktibi> the goal is to sync kayoB release with kolla ?
14:29:02 <mgoddard> ktibi: ideally
14:29:23 <mgoddard> ktibi: or at least at a similar time
14:30:39 <mgoddard> so we should probably have a feature freeze at a similar time, agree?
14:31:29 <ktibi> yep
14:31:58 <ktibi> or maybe one more week
14:32:15 <ktibi> if we want to add feature about the last kolla feature
14:32:56 <mgoddard> #info Kayobe feature freeze 25th - 29th March
14:33:37 <mgoddard> that gives us 2 weeks until the Stein release. Normally kolla should be 1-2 weeks after that
14:34:05 <mgoddard> if we branch stable/stein then we can continue feature development on master
14:34:42 <mgoddard> there are a couple of issues with the patch to move to stein currently, so we'll need to resolve those
14:34:53 <mgoddard> I think both may actually be kolla-ansible issues
14:35:25 <mgoddard> I think that's all on Stein, unless anyone has any more?
14:36:10 <mgoddard> #topic open discussion
14:36:21 <mgoddard> Anyone have anything else to discuss?
14:37:57 <mgoddard> Ok. Have a nice day everyone
14:38:02 <mgoddard> #endmeeting