16:01:17 #startmeeting kolla 16:01:18 Meeting started Wed Sep 14 16:01:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:21 The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' 16:01:26 #topic rollcall 16:01:29 o/ 16:01:30 woot for kolla please 16:01:34 o/ 16:01:38 o/ 16:01:38 wooot!! 16:01:39 o/ 16:01:44 woot o/ 16:01:50 o/ 16:02:10 o/ 16:02:13 \o/ 16:02:21 hey folks 16:02:22 inc0 can you makeme chair please 16:02:30 #chair sdake 16:02:31 Current chairs: inc0 sdake 16:02:33 thanks 16:02:38 wanna take over? 16:02:41 inc0 - i'll handlethis meeting please 16:02:45 sure 16:02:51 sorry for tardinss -was otp 16:03:01 no sweat, it's all yours 16:03:01 hey folks ;) 16:03:08 #topic announcements 16:03:26 o/ 16:03:28 hey sdake :) 16:03:51 As you have seen I am passing on responsbilities for kolla one of our two new fearless leaders 16:04:06 I'd ask you to give them your support when one is selected 16:04:13 both are fantastic candidates 16:04:29 a bit about how the transition willbehanlded 16:04:55 ptl transitions can sometimes be shakey because otgoing ptls and incoming ptls don't get along or have different agendas 16:05:04 that is not the case for our community 16:05:30 which is great - less problems to worry about ;) 16:05:52 after the ptl is elected, I will act as release steward for newton until 3.0.0 16:06:02 yo 16:06:21 the new ptl will take on responsibility for running meetings and whatnot 16:06:30 and communication with the fuoundation 16:06:51 once elected 16:07:00 hi 16:07:11 the implication of all this is yo uwill hve two leaders asking for posibly two different things 16:07:40 i'd like to ask folks to remember 3.0.0 (newton) has 269 bugs atm and we have a whole lot of work to do to execute the release 16:07:54 its our community rsponsibility to release 3.0.0 on time 16:08:13 it is my responsibility as release steward to drive that forward 16:08:28 change in eladership is a foudning princple ofopenstack 16:08:31 and a fantastic thing 16:09:04 i'm glad i feel kolla is in great shape enough that i can pass responsibilities to a new leader without them having to struggle 16:09:12 any quetions on that? 16:09:29 sdake, are you leaving kolla or just leaving PTL? 16:09:36 i am remaining core 16:09:42 why on earthw ould i leave kolla 16:10:21 these guys running for ptl have earned the right for the responsibility 16:10:34 I could continue on as ptl forever likely - but that isn't how i roll 16:11:00 any other questions? 16:12:03 ok - thats my monologue any other communitiy updates? 16:12:12 rc1 16:12:16 is lurking at us 16:12:43 so rc1 happends tomorrow 16:13:03 which means no more feature merges and we branch 16:13:12 it will create stable/newton branch 16:13:13 oh thanks for mentioning that 16:13:33 well, not we, but it will be there 16:14:00 because of the brarnch, every bug will need to be backported targeted for 3.0.0 (from master) 16:14:26 and require a bug id unforunately 16:15:25 the agenda hasn't been updated, so lets roll on the fly :) 16:15:29 we'll need to bind source builds to stable versions instead of master 16:15:43 sdake, I'd like to talk about kolla-ansible split 16:16:01 ok - added to my brains' agenda :) 16:16:09 #topic rc1 16:16:42 #ink https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/newton-rc1 16:16:51 pleasee opeen that up 16:17:04 we have made tremendous progress in the last 12 days 16:17:13 seems like our businest time 16:17:22 everyone is doing a fantasitc job reviewing and crnaking out code 16:17:37 really nice work:) 16:17:52 i'd like to guide folks to review the blueprints that are outstanding 16:18:01 ahead of fall else 16:18:09 and drive to getting them merged 16:18:13 senlin is done ffrom what i can tell 16:18:21 nto sure if it merged over ngiht ornot 16:18:34 yup, just marked now as implemented 16:18:42 merged an hour ago 16:18:58 nice job egonzalez90 and crs for beating the review into shape ;) 16:19:21 any othe rblueprints ready to merge? 16:19:36 i see two that need review 16:19:51 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358305/ 16:19:52 networking-sfc is problematic at this point - but I asked jeffrey4l to take over the review, but Im not sure if he has it passing the gate yet 16:20:13 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346842/ 16:20:23 sfc is ready to rock 16:20:27 vmtp seems as good as its going to get 16:20:32 pbourke nice - gate green then 16:21:05 and the answer is yes (second review) 16:22:30 lets walk down lsist real quick 16:22:45 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/performance-monitoring 16:22:45 i agree 16:23:19 we're super close 16:23:21 i think performance monitoring is not going to make it 16:23:28 but its so close 16:23:38 why /? 16:23:41 it still can 16:23:42 zhubingbing has done a great job getting that rolling 16:23:53 just one +2 missing on both reviews 16:24:06 inc0 cool - just woke up so havnet processed launchpad yet 16:24:15 ok lets go ahead and review those 16:24:22 let's make it a focus guys, we're super close 16:24:30 and people wanted this feature badly 16:24:34 ya - focus on the priorities et in reviews 16:24:40 rather in launchpd 16:25:02 inc0 is anyting needed here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/upgrade-ceph-to-jewel 16:25:11 I already closed it 16:25:14 it's doen 16:25:21 nice 16:25:22 let me refresh 16:25:44 #ink https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kuryr-docker-plugin 16:25:59 the kuryr keystone v3 support merged yesterday 16:26:05 this was blocking kuryr from merging in kolla 16:26:21 as a result of that keystone v3 support, thee review needs some rework 16:26:31 huikiang said it was cutting it close 16:26:36 so that may not make newton 16:26:55 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/neutron-vpnaas-agent 16:27:21 anyone know status of this 16:27:38 me 16:27:44 it is finshd 16:27:52 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335502/ 16:27:54 merged o rready for review? 16:28:02 This I have been tested 16:28:07 needs +a 16:28:08 yes 16:28:21 pbourke's +2 is good enough fforme 16:28:37 lets still do a thourough job of reviewing these 16:29:29 This I have been in the local test by 16:29:40 i think it can merged 16:30:00 blue, green, and purple are all positive colors 16:30:13 rc1 looks like its in good shape 16:30:39 looks like we may only be missing kuryr out of our original plan 16:30:50 yes 16:31:05 miss kuryr 16:31:21 i haven't given up on kuryr making the releae 16:31:22 it has 24 hours 16:31:25 on to bugs 16:31:34 if fy o uhae a bug in progress and can get it merged 16:31:35 please do so 16:31:50 i can do it 16:31:55 link give me 16:31:55 crs please prioritize bugs in "in progress state" 16:32:04 do which zhubingbing 16:32:10 kuryr 16:32:22 zhubingbing sync up wth huikang, that is his baby 16:32:47 np 16:32:56 anything triaged or confirmed bugwise will go into rc2 16:33:05 we hve a cuple weeks to sort out rc2 16:33:12 NO FEATURES IN RC2 16:33:21 now if a feature we implemented is broken, thats a bug 16:33:32 so those kinds of fixes will be permitted 16:33:32 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298894/ i fixed it now 16:34:04 i am going to contact huikang 16:34:11 any quetions on our rc1 planning? 16:34:47 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/performance-monitoring 16:34:53 why close it 16:35:05 close? 16:35:09 progress status be ok 16:35:21 its in needs revie 16:35:29 telegrpah and grafana haven't merged yet 16:35:42 ok 16:35:47 i understand 16:35:48 zhubingbing, did you add release note for it? 16:35:50 in reno? 16:35:51 (lr atleast not as of midnight last night my time) 16:36:26 which 16:36:37 zhubingbing all of em 16:36:51 every bluerpint implementtoin should have a release note 16:36:51 and some bugs too 16:36:52 well I'd really keep it "we added monitoring stack" 16:36:59 ok 16:37:21 zhubingbing we can hash that out inreviews if your available today 16:37:42 but ya general monitoring stack idea inc0 proposed is good- along with individual components that were added 16:37:45 I don't think there's any problem. 16:37:52 cool 16:38:00 if there are bugs, we can sort em out in rc2 16:38:03 we don't have release notes yet, but that's minor, we'll add it 16:38:26 ok 8 minutes timebox for k8s update 16:38:32 #topic kubernetes update 16:38:47 so 16:38:51 rhallisey al yours :) 16:39:02 quickstart guide has been getting ironed out 16:39:08 rhallisey, multinode? 16:39:12 the services are falling into place nicely 16:39:24 inc0, it will work for both 16:39:28 aio & multinode 16:39:29 rhallisey, cool 16:39:54 the next steps come as how the cli commands will be run 16:40:18 the community talked about using ansible/workflow tools 16:40:45 I prototyped this in the past using the ansible-kube module 16:41:04 that patch still exists, but it will call the granular cli now 16:41:20 ok that's all the updates 16:41:26 anyone else? 16:41:37 i have something to add 16:41:51 kolla-kubernetes has fantastic potential 16:42:00 in order to execute, we need core reviewers to review teh work 16:42:06 indeed 16:42:08 the review queue is jammed up 16:42:14 I think we're more constrained on people writing code now;) 16:42:21 i kno wwe hae alot of jbectives 16:42:31 inc0 yup - thats comming 16:42:43 but please add kolla-kuberenetes to your watch list 16:42:45 and review it 16:42:52 review aptchess related to it 16:42:58 oh one more thing 16:43:08 when will the repo split be re visisted? 16:43:17 thats next on agenda 16:43:19 in about a minute I hope? 16:43:22 ok 16:43:32 I think the k8s's doc should be kept in sync with kolla one 16:43:38 any questions for kolla-kubernetes? 16:43:54 duonghq, in terms of the quickstart? 16:44:01 yup 16:44:13 well for deps and some of the pieces yes 16:44:28 I think it needs to re use a bunch of it 16:44:46 just a note, I want to discuss further on kolla after this meeting 16:44:52 something about PBR issue 16:44:55 so, go on 16:45:00 cool thanks duonghq 16:45:09 ok timebox is up 16:45:21 12 minutes or kolla-ansible repo spit 16:45:24 #topic kolla-ansible repo split 16:45:33 inc0 all yours 16:45:46 okj 16:45:58 so in midcycle we discussed splitting, this needs to happen 16:46:09 agreed 16:46:09 I kept hearing about it from number of different sources 16:46:24 question was timing and we all agree that newton is not a good time 16:46:28 but newton is coming to an end 16:46:54 so when we branch out stable/newton , repo split becomes an option 16:47:12 the downside of that is our 260+ bug backports become more difficult 16:47:14 easiest way to do it would be to pretty much split dir ansible 16:47:18 and tool kolla-ansible 16:47:30 not that much tho 16:47:49 since we'll keep similar repo structure in reality 16:47:58 just one fix needs to go to two repos instead of one 16:48:09 yup- and i think our test of seprating containers from ansible has worked out well 16:48:09 I think we could prep small shell script to help with that 16:48:14 should be entirely doable 16:48:34 i'd prfer keeping fixes separate as we have one in the past 16:48:38 sdake: thanks for not giving up on us 16:48:42 in Ocata timeframe we could look at moving configs to shared kolla as well 16:48:58 we have a patch for a Dockerfile, maybe hui kang can reuse bits of it 16:49:04 apuimedo i dont give up on people - but sometimes I give up on companies :) 16:49:07 sent it yesterday and it already has +2 16:49:18 sdake: that's a good policy 16:49:44 soo, my question to our glorious community is 16:49:51 i think the timing is right for a vote on the repo spit 16:49:54 does anyone specifically don't want it to happen 16:50:09 we will repeat this question on ML 16:50:10 inc0 my onhy concern is backports 16:50:22 sdake, I'll take a look at automating it 16:50:24 other then that, wfm 16:50:31 should be matter of more clever shell script 16:50:42 with a dash of git magic 16:50:54 or even not 16:51:13 because we'll backport 2 repos into one 16:51:25 so we can just apply exactly same diffs 16:51:37 i'd prefer backport process o be gerrit cherrypick 16:51:43 rather then working with a git repo directly 16:51:58 not sure if we can do that really 16:52:08 but creating a patch on mitaka will be simple 16:52:16 or newton 16:52:20 this may be a little annoying, but it's a must for the community imo 16:52:35 I agree, 16:52:41 i totally agree rhallisey 16:52:51 its not a matter of annoyance to me 16:52:57 its a matter of delivering 3.0.0 on time 16:53:23 lets have a vote on ml and answer two questions 1) what the repo split is 2) when it should happen 16:53:26 sdake, I don't think this is endangered in any way 16:53:29 inc0 i can do that or you can 16:53:52 sdake, since you have most questions, please write an email and I'll clarify 16:54:02 cuz if you have questions others will too;) 16:54:21 my question is around timing 16:54:28 others questions may be about wht repo split is 16:54:39 once ocata starts, we can do it, earlier the better 16:54:54 if you prefer I draft the email, i'll present a couple options for when 16:55:12 inc0 if it makes you feel better as soon as 3.0.0 is in the can, I'd do t he repo work myself personally 16:55:33 sdake, let's both work on it 16:55:41 but agree, 3.0.0 is priority 16:55:51 what i mean is, I am supportive of the idea 16:55:56 i dont care who does the work :) 16:56:04 but i think its important 16:56:08 and would do it myself if need be 16:56:33 so I don't think we have much opposition to it, but let's start ML thread 16:56:45 by lets you mean me :) 16:56:52 you're PTL man 16:56:56 :P 16:56:56 ok will do shortly after this meeting 16:57:00 thanks 16:57:01 inc0 anyone can propose votes 16:57:07 coolsvap is the only one that has 16:57:14 shoudl I re raise :D 16:57:15 no rhallisey did as well forgive me 16:57:18 memory foggy 16:57:33 and rhallisey did it on this particular subject too!;) 16:57:35 ok i'll take care of it this mroning 16:57:37 you havemy word 16:57:39 thanks 16:57:45 #topic open discussion 16:57:51 3 minutes 16:57:52 dense meeting 16:57:53 make sure to include all questions you'd like to clarify 16:58:02 apologies for not alot o extra time for open discussion 16:58:15 #topic thanks for making kolla happen 16:58:22 sooo...one thing from me 16:58:25 once RC releases 16:58:33 see topic 16:58:35 we need to test the crap out of M->N upgrades 16:58:52 inc0 agree - testing needs to be a priority for al new services and n->m ugprades and reconfigure 16:59:01 i agree 16:59:05 all services, priority is old actually 16:59:10 as we need to keep them up and running 16:59:10 anyway 16:59:18 especially that we changed few moving parts 16:59:21 This team is fantastic 16:59:22 underneath 16:59:33 sdake, woot for kolla?;) 16:59:33 thank you everybody 16:59:34 one of the finest I've had the pleasure of serving as a leader for 16:59:51 Your all rockstar engineers with a bright future ahead 17:00:15 inc0 - out o time :) 17:00:22 we can try the woot next time :) 17:00:26 inc0: not sure woot for kolla is catching on :p 17:00:34 pbourke, just wait. 17:00:35 #endmeeting