16:00:19 <inc0> #startmeeting kolla
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16:00:22 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'kolla'
16:00:29 <inc0> #topic w00t for kolla
16:00:32 <spsurya_> w00t
16:00:36 <inc0> woot! show the love
16:00:49 <spsurya_> 0/
16:00:54 <krtaylor> o/ w00t!
16:00:58 <egonzalez> woot! o/
16:01:02 <rfxn> \o/ woot
16:01:02 <duonghq> wo0t o/ \o
16:01:07 <pbourke> woot!
16:01:51 <sbezverk> o/
16:01:55 <rwellum> o/
16:02:12 <sdake> yo dawg - we heard you like containers - so we built containers for your containers - because one does not simply build containers!
16:02:18 <Jeffrey4l> w00t
16:04:09 <rwellum> For the open discussion I have one item inc0
16:04:31 <inc0> sdake: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484961/1/tools/registry/Dockerfile
16:04:47 <inc0> docker build this and you'll get tarball images;)
16:04:53 <inc0> rwellum: sure
16:05:19 <jamesbenson> w00t :-D
16:05:54 <jascott1> w00t
16:06:21 <inc0> ok, let's move to announcements
16:06:25 <inc0> #topic announcements
16:06:51 <inc0> PTG is less than 4 weeks off. We'll have finalized room schedule soon
16:07:37 <inc0> any community announcements?
16:07:43 <duonghq> inc0, will we have cross-project sessions with TripleO?
16:07:48 <inc0> yes
16:07:56 <duonghq> nice
16:08:13 <inc0> not sure when exactly but yes
16:08:21 <inc0> probably more than just one session
16:08:30 <sbezverk> it looks like with k8s 1.8.0 we will have namespaces sorted out
16:08:46 <duonghq> roger, inc0
16:08:47 <sbezverk> as mount propagation specs were accepted
16:08:53 <inc0> cool!
16:09:15 <rwellum> Community wise: I'm hosting another kubernetes meetup for the area through my $job. https://www.meetup.com/Triangle-Kubernetes-Meetup/events/240928408/ - Have a google engineer coming in. Of course they want me to speak because it's a host thing. So I thought I'd give a kolla-k8s update. So wanted to reach out and see if I can get some input on what to present; as I'll be representing all of us. And I
16:09:15 <rwellum> want to attract users and contributors.
16:09:49 <inc0> nice!
16:10:30 <inc0> #topic rwellum's topic;)
16:10:37 <inc0> since I don't know what is it
16:10:39 <inc0> rwellum: shoot;)
16:11:23 <rwellum> Well I thought I'd give a project overview of Kolla, kolla-ansible and kolla-k8s. Hand out the IRC information and walk through the mission statements.
16:11:46 <rwellum> Any other suggestions. I was going to give a small demo too probably.
16:11:50 <inc0> rwellum: I have some slides and whatnot about that
16:11:53 <inc0> from last summit
16:11:58 <inc0> if you want
16:11:59 <rwellum> perfect!
16:12:07 <inc0> you were on session;)
16:12:18 <inc0> project update
16:12:20 <rwellum> Yes I do. The stuff you presented on users etc was great.
16:12:46 <inc0> since it was abotu ocata it's still up to date
16:12:52 <rwellum> Great
16:13:47 <inc0> I'll try to find it
16:13:54 <rwellum> If you send me what you have, I'll put something together then I'll ping some of the core for input/review. Is that ok?
16:14:01 <rwellum> *cores
16:14:08 <inc0> ofc
16:14:25 <inc0> cool Rich, that's totally awesome
16:15:07 <rwellum> Ok cool - BTW - there'll be a live link and a recording if anyone is interested but doesn't want to fly to NC :)
16:15:32 <inc0> when is it?
16:16:07 <sdake> rwellum there is only one mission statement
16:16:13 <sdake> rwellum please make sure to get that right :)
16:16:22 <rwellum> Thursday, August 24, 6:00 PM
16:16:34 <rwellum> sdake: Ack.
16:16:35 <sdake> rwellum openstack is confusing enough for people - its worse if they think each project has separate mission statements ;)
16:16:56 <sdake> rwellum ping me after and i'll point you at the info
16:17:05 <rwellum> I'll make sure to send you the slides as well sdake
16:17:13 <sdake> rather not project - deliverable
16:17:20 <inc0> afair I had it in my slides
16:17:48 <sdake> rwellum how much time do you have available?
16:18:11 <rwellum> 30 minutes
16:18:42 <inc0> allright, rwellum is there anything else in this one?
16:18:50 <inc0> (topic that is)
16:18:57 <rwellum> Nope - thanks guys
16:19:15 <inc0> #topic open discussion
16:19:17 <inc0> anyone?
16:19:24 <duonghq> me
16:19:30 <egonzalez> yes, I have one
16:19:34 <inc0> go ahead duonghq
16:19:52 <duonghq> so, egonzalez, you first
16:20:13 <duonghq> inc0, my topic is quite old, can wait for egonzalez
16:20:17 <egonzalez> I would like to request FFE for ansible redis role https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486304/
16:20:35 <sdake> egonzalez what shape is the code in?
16:20:42 <egonzalez> mistral does not work in a multinode without a coordination backend
16:20:53 <egonzalez> without mistral, tacker also does not work :(
16:21:04 <inc0> egonzalez: yes, it's required as far as I'm concerned
16:21:19 <inc0> already got one +2 so pretty close
16:21:23 <egonzalez> sdake, it could be merged now and fix my comments (easy ones) later
16:21:25 <sdake> .cool
16:21:53 <inc0> up to mewald I guess
16:22:00 <Jeffrey4l> does mysql backend work for mistral?
16:22:02 <inc0> but we have till end of this week
16:22:02 <Jeffrey4l> egonzalez,
16:22:13 <egonzalez> Jeffrey4l, nope, features needed are not implemented
16:22:21 <Jeffrey4l> ok.
16:23:52 <jamesbenson> when does feature/bug freeze start?  end of week?
16:24:16 <duonghq> egonzalez, are you done?
16:24:25 <egonzalez> duonghq, thats all from me
16:24:27 <inc0> jamesbenson: there is no bug freeze
16:24:37 <inc0> feature freeze is end of this week
16:24:39 <jamesbenson> yeah, sorry been out of it...
16:24:43 <inc0> I mean it was 2 weeks before
16:24:44 <jamesbenson> got too eager
16:24:51 <inc0> but end of this week is hard freeze
16:24:54 <jamesbenson> k
16:25:33 <duonghq> inc0, egonzalez can you give me some advice on this ps: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/ (keystone upgrade)
16:25:36 <egonzalez> inc0, wasnt Aug 11?
16:25:41 <egonzalez> https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html
16:25:59 <inc0> we're release trailing
16:26:14 <inc0> ah
16:26:16 <inc0> right
16:26:18 <inc0> I missed that
16:26:22 <inc0> my bad
16:26:25 <inc0> well, there you go
16:26:40 <jamesbenson> I want to get one external ceph bug submitted and hopefully approved before hard freeze.  Deploy fails on external due to missing files... it's a simple precheck fix.  If I could get some +2's on it.
16:27:02 <egonzalez> jamesbenson, bugs are allowed in feature freeze
16:27:18 <jamesbenson> 👌
16:27:37 <jamesbenson> (my own deadline I suppose)
16:27:44 <inc0> egonzalez: anything else on this one?
16:27:52 <egonzalez> inc0, nope
16:27:55 <egonzalez> thanks
16:28:21 <inc0> anyone else want's to add something to open discussion?
16:28:26 <inc0> or can we wrap up?
16:28:31 <duonghq> inc0,  me
16:28:40 <inc0> shoot
16:28:56 <duonghq> the link I wrote above, and the ansbile-become ps: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398682/
16:29:08 <duonghq> I'm not sure why gate is red
16:29:17 <duonghq> hope that I can get some advice
16:29:41 <egonzalez> duonghq, ceph/multinodes run out of disk space
16:29:44 <duonghq> also, what kind of topic we'll discuss with TripleO team in PTG?
16:29:53 <inc0> I was planning to try to fix it today
16:30:10 <duonghq> inc0, so, it's about infra issue or our logic issue?
16:30:18 <inc0> duonghq: since TripleO thinks of moving more towards kubernetes+ansible
16:30:27 <inc0> it's aligned with what kolla-kubernetes is
16:30:38 <inc0> so we'll try to figure out how to cooperate
16:30:44 <egonzalez> duonghq, for keystone upgrade, i tested it without this changes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/26/ansible/site.yml
16:31:19 <duonghq> inc0, will we do it in next week meeting? (the cooperate thing)?
16:31:22 <egonzalez> ofc requires downtime while restarting all keystone containers
16:31:40 <inc0> we had it once, but I think we'll discuss in on PTG
16:31:56 <duonghq> egonzalez, iirc, we temporaly accept it in P
16:31:59 <inc0> it's going to be long topic;)
16:32:54 <duonghq> inc0, sure, but at least, which facet we can collaborate with TripleO team? last time TripleO peps go to our IRC meeting, thing stop at template language (iirc)
16:33:10 <inc0> yeah, that's where it is today
16:33:21 <inc0> and we want to discuss options
16:33:32 <inc0> figure out constrains and such
16:33:51 <duonghq> roger
16:34:09 <duonghq> inc0, egonzalez, if we revert this file, can the ps is merged?
16:34:31 <duonghq> due to it's meaningless in P
16:34:44 <inc0> yes, please
16:35:48 <duonghq> inc0,  will we share our configuration management with TripleO?
16:36:05 <inc0> not sure
16:36:17 <inc0> that's what PTG will be about
16:36:27 <inc0> I don't want to make any assumptions without them
16:36:40 <inc0> I think there is plenty of space where we could cooperate
16:37:12 <duonghq> sure, and it should be
16:37:22 <inc0> anyway, I'll wrap up meeting unless anyone else have anything to talk about?
16:37:27 <inc0> still have over 20min
16:37:34 <rfxn> New to the meetings so feel free to chastise me accordingly if wrong time for input. Currently, multi-node deploy of galera lacks garbd arbitrator as a no-data cluster member to participate in voting to avoid split-brains and other nonsense.
16:37:46 <duonghq> inc0, egonzalez I reverted the file in the ps: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/
16:38:09 <rfxn> its super easy to muck up galera on kolla deploys currently through a couple of poorly timed container restarts of mariadb
16:38:42 <duonghq> inc0,  the neutron ps is fixed tomorrow, it nearly same as ks one
16:38:46 <rfxn> and the world of hurt that is mariadb_recovery is a less than ideal solution
16:38:58 <inc0> agree
16:39:14 <inc0> probably we need to either drop it or rewrite it
16:39:26 <egonzalez> rfxn, yep https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1682153
16:39:27 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1682153 in kolla-ansible "mariadb_recovery is prone to data loss" [Critical,Confirmed]
16:40:21 <rfxn> egonzalez, seen that one; that + garbd I think would make the galera setup much more mature/stable as a production deployment
16:41:01 <inc0> can we have prototype please?
16:42:58 <inc0> we probably would need new image to for garbd
16:43:03 <inc0> sounds like great queens feature
16:44:00 <inc0> ok, I'll wrap it up
16:44:09 <inc0> thank you everyone for coming!
16:44:25 <inc0> let's move discussions to regular channel
16:44:30 <inc0> #endmeeting kolla