15:01:24 #startmeeting kolla 15:01:25 Meeting started Wed Sep 18 15:01:24 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:26 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:30 The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' 15:01:31 #topic rollcall 15:01:37 \o 15:01:39 /o\ 15:01:40 o/ 15:01:40 o/ 15:01:42 o/ 15:01:56 o/ 15:01:58 o/ 15:02:00 o 15:02:03 o/ 15:02:31 \o 15:02:49 welcome back yankcrime 15:02:52 hi mgoddard 15:03:08 #topic agenda 15:03:16 * Roll-call 15:03:19 * Announcements 15:03:21 ** Vote for Kayobe Train planning meeting time: https://doodle.com/poll/y7fakbhbkfx5hqyk 15:03:23 * Review action items from last meeting 15:03:26 * CI status 15:03:27 * Train release planning 15:03:29 * Review priorities 15:03:31 * Kayobe Train planning 15:03:45 #topic announcements 15:03:51 #info Vote for Kayobe Train planning meeting time 15:03:57 #link https://doodle.com/poll/y7fakbhbkfx5hqyk 15:04:16 Will discuss this a little more later 15:04:32 #info CentOS 7.7 released yesterday 15:04:42 only minimal CI breakage this time 15:05:19 #info CentOS 8 released next week, 24th 15:06:03 In october I may take a look at centos:8 builds 15:06:21 #info OpenStack projects releasing RC1 next week, final release 14-18 Oct 15:06:32 that will be good hrw 15:07:07 we should try to get ahead as soon as possible in case there are problems we need to report back 15:07:12 Any others? 15:07:25 ipv6 is not a goal of deployment projects in train 15:07:33 probably in ussuri 15:07:36 Right 15:07:40 so we are step ahead 8-) 15:07:41 still nice to have 15:07:45 always 15:07:50 indeed nice 15:07:52 (when complete) 15:08:01 #topic Review action items from last meeting 15:08:16 There were none 15:08:22 #topic CI status 15:08:54 Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/rocky: base: fix OracleLinux build https://review.opendev.org/682927 15:09:01 Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/queens: base: fix OracleLinux build https://review.opendev.org/682928 15:09:11 We have issues with oraclelinux on stable branches. Fixed in stein, looks like yoctozepto is backporting as we speak 15:09:12 getting unbroken as we speak 8-) 15:09:41 +2 on both 15:09:42 ol is not an issue of train 15:09:54 and we are dropping it nicely 15:10:05 we had some flakiness in kayobe CI bare metal deploys, 'fixed' with iptables 15:10:27 why 'fixed'? 15:10:36 https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681700/ 15:11:10 weird indeed 15:11:19 at least it should always fail 15:11:27 cause was docker CE adding a default DROP policy to the FORWARD chain, in combination with bridge-nf-call-iptables 15:11:55 I never really understood why it only sometimes failed, and exactly what the problem was 15:12:28 but a blanket ACCEPT on the FORWARD chain did the trick 15:12:29 worth noting if it does not break real deploys somewhere 15:12:54 +1, docker's policy has caused a few different issues for us 15:12:55 I've had issues on a Queens deployment using DVR 15:13:26 I ended up running docker with --iptables=false 15:13:52 maybe it does something funny on the lower layers as well (raw, mangle, nat stuff) 15:14:24 I seem to forget about raw and it can be tricky left unchecked :D 15:14:33 (vide that ipv6 problem with firewalld on) 15:14:43 maybe it's time to add iptables: false to /etc/docker/daemon.json ;-) 15:14:51 priteau: that is tempting. It wouldn't hurt kolla-ansible, I was just worried in case people run other containers without net=host 15:15:06 There are security implications 15:15:16 mnasiadka, mgoddard, priteau: zun impact 15:15:47 yoctozepto: I don't care about Zun, who uses it anyway :) 15:16:10 ouch 15:16:38 behave, mnasiadka, behave 15:16:40 Frankly speaking I never understood why we use the same container runtime for control plane and Zun 15:17:05 mnasiadka: because we cannot otherwise 15:17:21 yoctozepto: I would challenge that, but this is not the meeting to do it :) 15:17:34 yeah, I would like to hear that 15:17:42 I think we have digressed 15:17:48 indeed 15:17:54 #topic Train release planning 15:18:33 According to our release status section, we have 2 weeks until our feature freeze 15:18:39 Kolla feature freeze: Sep 30 - Oct 04 15:19:29 I think we'll need to exclude centos8 & centos py3 from that 15:19:48 Let's assess what other priorities look like 15:19:48 yep 15:20:00 mgoddard: or do the standard 2.5 month delay 15:20:05 support matrix won't be affected by freeze 15:20:33 yoctozepto: we still froze a few weeks after everyone else IIRC 15:20:55 mgoddard: seems it got hit by hot winds then 15:21:01 we'd just need to backport anything after RC1 15:21:14 Merged openstack/kayobe stable/stein: Fix kayobe-overcloud-centos CI job flakiness https://review.opendev.org/682829 15:21:24 I think that's still a good approach, agree? 15:21:44 ^ oh nice I can mark kayobe CI GREEN again 15:22:48 Nova cells could be at risk - dougsz is away next week 15:23:26 I'd like to get the nova part of that work merged this cycle 15:23:35 (at least) 15:23:44 https://review.opendev.org/675659 15:24:37 We finished the ansible upgrade \o/ 15:24:54 Internal TLS is coming along nicely, first patch merged 15:25:25 I don't know if we'll get the backend patch in this cycle 15:25:30 but we'll see 15:26:05 this one is now a dependency of TLS: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/587590 15:26:34 and then it's this one: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664517 15:26:45 I love those multi file small fixes :) 15:27:19 maybe we should start use BP+1/-1 to mark what we need in Train and what goes for Ussuri? 15:27:20 oh yeah, get all those CI jobs going 15:27:48 I've been adding RP+1 for train priorities 15:28:06 RP-1 seems a bit mean :) 15:28:17 but maybe nearer the freeze it will help 15:28:38 what's the status of health checks mnasiadka? 15:29:17 I doubt I'll get them in this cycle, looks like some debugging needed on docker-py level to get this working - and then there's a lot of work ahead 15:29:30 :-( 15:29:47 k, good to know so we can focus elsewhere 15:30:16 yoctozepto: reckon IPv6 can land in time? 15:30:35 mgoddard: I confirm, it works, CI is just grumpy :-) 15:30:51 (well, ubuntu worked well) 15:31:13 ok 15:32:11 I added patches to generate PDF docs 15:32:12 https://review.opendev.org/682610 15:32:15 https://review.opendev.org/682611 15:32:17 https://review.opendev.org/682616 15:32:23 shamelessly adapted from ironic's hard work 15:32:35 it's a community goal, so I'll mark RP+1 15:33:02 seems we need more irrelevant files around 15:33:22 maybe 15:33:26 no need to test docs with ansible 15:33:53 had to fix requirements.txt for those: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682646 15:34:22 Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: Ceph-Ansible CI https://review.opendev.org/676376 15:34:29 +2 on pdf 15:34:50 I think that's all the big stuff. I marked some things as being pushed out to Ussuri 15:35:21 Did I miss anything? 15:36:01 #topic Review priorities 15:36:12 Anything we should focus on this week? 15:36:27 already marked PDFs 15:37:01 Cells 15:37:06 vxlan 15:37:11 ipv6 15:37:16 I do, you review 15:37:20 -OL 15:37:43 I think -OL went in already? 15:37:48 same here 15:37:59 ah, not kolla 15:38:09 added 15:38:13 OL stuff: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682927/ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682928/ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682865/ 15:39:27 yoctozepto: could you add bp/ topic to your IPv6 patches? 15:39:30 https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/ipv6-control-plane 15:40:09 yoctozepto: feel free to add RP+1 to your IPv6 patches 15:40:17 mgoddard: what's the plan with ceph-ansible spec? do we want to merge it now, in Ussuri or never? ;-) 15:40:27 mnasiadka: hmm 15:40:51 Ussuri might make sense, we'll know more after the experimental CI job with ceph-ansible will be merged ;-) 15:41:27 mnasiadka: +2 15:41:43 mgoddard: ok, right when done 15:42:06 mnasiadka: I think the direction is sound, even if we don't know when we'll do it 15:42:30 Kayobe priorities this week? 15:42:42 priteau, jovial[m]? 15:43:28 I am going over the storyboard and identifying things we can fix in Train 15:44:50 great. we can discuss the train planning in the next section, just looking for review priorities for this week atm 15:45:22 we have a few bug fixes waiting for review, I'll pick some and mark RP+1 15:45:33 Oh, sorry 15:45:39 priteau: np 15:45:43 Anyone know about kolla-cli 15:45:48 Review priority: stable/queens backport https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679269/ 15:45:59 priteau: +1. Feel free to add RP+1 15:46:21 Is kolla-cli going to be ready to release? 15:46:50 mgoddard: it looks it was a temporary activity burst 15:46:52 I'll try and review 679269 now 15:47:15 yoctozepto: I have seen a few patches recently 15:48:05 mgoddard: do you have any contact with somebody that is merging that work? ;-) 15:48:23 they don't seem to visit irc channel 15:48:38 probably great firewall of China is to blame 15:48:46 probably 15:48:53 yeah 15:49:01 let's mail them then 15:49:17 mnasiadka: not really. Jeffrey4l is the only one from 99cloud who is on IRC AFAIK 15:49:49 ok, last 10 minutes 15:49:52 mgoddard: I guess this is not very easy for him, I worked with some Chinese people in IBM, and they had to do a lot of tunnelling :-) 15:50:09 I expect so 15:50:20 mgoddard: maybe he has higher clearance ;-) 15:50:35 #action mgoddard to email Jeffrey4l & co about kolla-cli 15:50:38 #topic Kayobe Train planning 15:50:46 Ok kayobians 15:50:57 priteau & jovial[m] 15:51:12 * yoctozepto just eavesdropping 15:51:18 Currently no slot next week suits everyone :( 15:51:52 If I allow for even hours does that help? 15:51:59 couldn't see any way to overlap in doodle 15:53:25 I think I'll just need to pick one and apologise 15:53:51 We should have a think about what to talk about in advance. priteau started an etherpad 15:54:04 +1 15:54:13 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-train-release 15:55:21 I think we could follow a similar pattern to kolla PTG 15:55:21 dump a list of things to discuss, then vote on priorities 15:55:21 bearing in mind we don't have much time 15:55:32 but priorities can always roll over 15:56:20 so, bring your ideas for discussion, and comb storyboard for anything that we should be picking up 15:56:34 Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: Ceph-Ansible CI https://review.opendev.org/676376 15:56:47 anything else we should be doing in those 2 hours? 15:57:05 Discuss path forward for Kolla and Kayobe? 15:57:07 is remaining patches for stuff that already has a change up for review? 15:57:16 Are there things we need to change in how the two integrate together 15:57:40 priteau: good question 15:57:49 it's a good time for open questions like that 15:58:01 chuck it on the pad 15:58:34 the format of the pad probably needs cleaning up 15:58:58 it's more of a status tracking pad 15:59:05 should we have a fresh one for ths discussion? 15:59:11 +1 15:59:14 ok 15:59:28 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-train-planning 15:59:35 Since we just released Stein, this is a kind of PTG meeting 15:59:41 #link Welcome to Etherpad Lite! 15:59:44 This pad text is synchronized as you type, so that everyone viewing this page sees the same text. 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