15:01:42 <mgoddard> #startmeeting kolla
15:01:42 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Nov  6 15:01:42 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:01:46 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'kolla'
15:01:47 <mgoddard> #topic rollcall
15:01:50 <mgoddard> \o
15:02:02 <yoctozepto> o/
15:02:04 <kplant> o/
15:03:45 <mgoddard> #topic agenda
15:03:52 <mgoddard> * Roll-call
15:03:54 <mgoddard> * Announcements
15:03:56 <mgoddard> ** Kolla vPTG on Thu & Fri this week: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ussuri-ptg
15:03:58 <mgoddard> * Review action items from last meeting
15:04:00 <mgoddard> * CI status
15:04:02 <mgoddard> * Train release planning
15:04:04 <mgoddard> * Review priorities
15:04:06 <mgoddard> * Kolla vPTG plannign
15:04:08 <mgoddard> Let's keep it short today as we're meeting tomorrow & friday
15:04:13 <mgoddard> #topic announcements
15:04:26 <mgoddard> #info Kolla vPTG on Thu & Fri this week
15:04:32 <mgoddard> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ussuri-ptg
15:05:14 <mgoddard> #info Kolla RC1 and stable/train created. Waiting on kolla-ansible release
15:05:30 <mgoddard> Any others?
15:05:44 <mgoddard> We can remove feature freeze once kolla-ansible RC1 has been released
15:05:57 * yoctozepto been to orthodontist today and is trying to regain ability to speak
15:06:25 <mgoddard> ouch
15:06:38 <yoctozepto> yeah, considering tomorrow's action
15:06:43 <mgoddard> Hopefully you will recover by tomorrow...
15:06:58 <mgoddard> #topic Review action items from last meeting
15:07:03 <yoctozepto> I will write in the chat window if it doesn't get better
15:07:06 <mgoddard> announce kolla virtual ptg on mailing list
15:07:07 <yoctozepto> :-)
15:07:08 <mgoddard> Split images into UNBUILDABLE/CI_TESTED/rest so we can have odl as buildable but not do it on CI
15:07:20 <mgoddard> yoctozepto did ML annoncement
15:07:24 <yoctozepto> I did
15:07:46 <mgoddard> not sure who was supposed to do the other
15:08:02 <mgoddard> normally action items need an owner
15:08:13 <yoctozepto> sorry :-(
15:08:18 <mgoddard> I think we'll disucss it tomorrow anyway
15:08:28 <mgoddard> np
15:08:36 <mgoddard> thanks again for running the meeting last week yoctozepto
15:08:41 <mgoddard> #topic CI status
15:08:42 <yoctozepto> yw
15:08:58 <mgoddard> I think we're relatively healthy right now
15:09:04 <mgoddard> anyone want to refute that?
15:09:17 <yoctozepto> na-ah
15:09:45 <mgoddard> cool
15:09:46 <mnasiadka> o/ (me late as always)
15:09:55 <yoctozepto> oh yes, he is late
15:09:58 <mgoddard> #topic Train release planning
15:10:11 <mgoddard> getting closer, we have an RC1
15:10:29 <mgoddard> still need kolla-ansible RC1 patch to merge, then we can unfreeze master
15:10:47 <mnasiadka> are we planning for rc2 and retagging bugs to rc2 milestone?
15:11:08 <mgoddard> we'll have an RC2 yes - several bug fixes since RC1
15:11:24 <yoctozepto> I think kolla itself is pretty well-shaped in RC1
15:11:26 <mgoddard> I don't bother with RC milestones, just release
15:11:28 <mgoddard> yeah
15:11:31 <yoctozepto> k-a might need RC2 indeed
15:11:51 <yoctozepto> but launchpad milestones are fine with release only
15:11:57 <mgoddard> I proposed a couple of patches to stable/train for kolla which I think Tripleo will want
15:12:02 <kplant> will the RC (and first stable release) have an upgrade path from stein? for k-a
15:12:05 <kplant> or does that ocme later
15:12:21 <yoctozepto> kplant: it has it already
15:12:31 <kplant> look at me paying attention. ty :-)
15:12:36 <mgoddard> kplant: we test upgrades in CI throughout the cycle
15:12:44 <yoctozepto> mgoddard: ah, yeah, forgot about those non-merged
15:13:31 <mgoddard> so let's keep focusing on bug fixes and stability until train release
15:14:08 <mnasiadka> mgoddard: it doesn't mean we test upgrades of all services - but the core works ;-)
15:14:23 <mgoddard> early adopters with time to test the RC will be rewarded with community tokens
15:14:32 <sean-k-mooney> i have a question on that but ill raise it after the meeting
15:14:44 <yoctozepto> mgoddard: how do community tokens work?
15:15:14 <mgoddard> yoctozepto: they are worth respect
15:15:28 <yoctozepto> mgoddard: ah, respect in the hood
15:15:32 <mgoddard> anyway, keeping it short :)
15:15:34 <kplant> mgoddard: i might be able to bump the lab here to train rc1
15:16:02 <mgoddard> kplant: that would be great. backup if it's at all important to you (as always) :P)
15:16:26 <sean-k-mooney> you might hit an issue with the " Running Nova API bootstrap container" task
15:16:50 <mgoddard> sean-k-mooney: what issue is that?
15:16:59 <mgoddard> is there a bug report?
15:17:10 <sean-k-mooney> "Database schema file with version 72 doesn't exist."
15:17:17 <yoctozepto> lol
15:17:18 <sean-k-mooney> i was going to ask ye about it after the meeting
15:17:30 <yoctozepto> we had no idea
15:17:37 <mgoddard> yeah, haven't seen that one
15:17:37 <sean-k-mooney> the api db sync is failing
15:17:41 <yoctozepto> it passes CI :-)
15:17:49 <sean-k-mooney> its might be a nova issue
15:18:05 <mgoddard> ok, let's pick it up after the meeting. Thanks for raising sean-k-mooney
15:18:10 <mgoddard> #topic Review priorities
15:18:39 <mgoddard> Same as before really - RP+1 for bug fixes we want in Train
15:18:51 <mgoddard> and any release-related patches
15:18:58 <mgoddard> features still RP-1 for now
15:19:10 <mgoddard> Any other priorites we need?
15:19:45 <yoctozepto> speech recovery
15:21:16 <mgoddard> #topic Kolla vPTG planning
15:21:27 <mgoddard> It's almost upon us
15:21:36 <mgoddard> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ussuri-ptg
15:22:06 <mgoddard> I did a little work on the etherpad yesterday - moved some things out of the 'general' section which became a bit bloated
15:22:17 <mgoddard> added incomplete train priorities at the bottom
15:22:43 <mgoddard> some new sections: "How to Get Involved", "Agenda", "Train cycle retrospective"
15:24:02 <mgoddard> Please go through it again and see if we have missed anything. We can always add things during the PTG
15:24:20 <mgoddard> How does this look for an agenda?
15:24:22 <mgoddard> Welcome, troubleshoot video conferencing
15:24:24 <mgoddard> Introductions
15:24:26 <mgoddard> Train cycle retrospective
15:24:28 <mgoddard> Ussuri design discussions
15:24:30 <mgoddard> Ussuri priority voting
15:24:32 <mgoddard> Housekeeping
15:25:01 <yoctozepto> <mgoddard> Welcome, troubleshoot video conferencing
15:25:04 <yoctozepto> 45 mins
15:25:08 <mgoddard> lol
15:25:20 <yoctozepto> :D
15:25:47 <mgoddard> I was trying to avoid making it a timed schedule - just an agenda to work through
15:25:48 <yoctozepto> yeah, I like it
15:26:43 <mgoddard> cool. Anything else we need to do before tomorrow?
15:27:10 <yoctozepto> *cough* learn to speak again *cough*
15:27:13 <priteau> sleep well :)
15:27:35 <yoctozepto> I seriously thought it would be less impactful
15:28:01 <mgoddard> what did they do to you?
15:28:41 <yoctozepto> placed some elastic metal bar on the palate
15:28:52 <yoctozepto> among other drastic things
15:29:06 <yoctozepto> but this contributes to VERY bad articulation
15:29:07 <mgoddard> let's hope you recover in time
15:29:24 <mgoddard> #topic Open discussion
15:29:41 <mgoddard> sean-k-mooney: where were we?
15:30:07 <yoctozepto> migration 72
15:30:41 <sean-k-mooney> i was evluating my poor life choice of deploying a random commit off master for about month ago and trying to update :)
15:31:12 <sean-k-mooney> ya so the nova-manage api_db sync command is failing in the nova-api bootstrap container
15:31:12 <mgoddard> ah, so probably not a problem that most people will hit?
15:31:18 <sean-k-mooney> propably not
15:31:32 <sean-k-mooney> im debating if this is a nova issue which it may be
15:31:33 <yoctozepto> still it sounds weird
15:31:50 <sean-k-mooney> ya the migration is just a placeholder https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api_migrations/migrate_repo/versions
15:32:10 <sean-k-mooney> but its as if the master contianer does not have it
15:32:19 <sean-k-mooney> its a unbuntu source deployment
15:32:25 <sean-k-mooney> using the docker hub images
15:32:57 <yoctozepto> looks like it was made for ussuri though
15:33:13 <yoctozepto> could be you got the images for ussuri back then
15:33:20 <sean-k-mooney> yes its the placeholder incase we need to backport something
15:33:30 <yoctozepto> ah
15:33:31 <yoctozepto> ok
15:33:37 <sean-k-mooney> i could have got it  before that was merged ya
15:33:49 <yoctozepto> https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/stable/train/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api_migrations/migrate_repo/versions
15:33:50 <sean-k-mooney> i basicaly deploy nova rc1
15:33:54 <yoctozepto> still, it's not in train
15:34:10 <yoctozepto> so you are essentially trying a downgrade now
15:34:24 <sean-k-mooney> ah that makes sense
15:34:36 <mgoddard> hmm, sounds like you got caught between train GA and kolla switching to train packages on master
15:34:36 <yoctozepto> we did builds of master
15:34:40 <sean-k-mooney> ok this is jsut a dev cluster at home
15:34:45 <sean-k-mooney> so i can always redeploy it
15:34:52 <yoctozepto> destroy :D
15:35:00 <mgoddard> if you crack open the container you can check the nova commit
15:35:07 <yoctozepto> glad we solved the mystery
15:35:19 <sean-k-mooney> mgoddard: ya that has happended to me before
15:35:41 <sean-k-mooney> i got impatent wanting to have  my home openstack running again
15:36:19 <sean-k-mooney> ok well that all makes sense. i might redepoy with rc1 at the weekend
15:36:59 <sean-k-mooney> mgoddard: are the "master" images currently built off train?
15:37:10 <yoctozepto> sean-k-mooney: ussuri
15:37:14 <yoctozepto> stable/train is train
15:37:26 <mgoddard> sean-k-mooney: yes, for a short time
15:37:36 <mgoddard> but soon will go back to master
15:37:39 <yoctozepto> ah right
15:37:44 <sean-k-mooney> mgoddard: the docker hub ones are stable train right
15:37:44 <yoctozepto> the revert is pending, my bad
15:37:49 <yoctozepto> but use stable/train
15:37:51 <mgoddard> after kolla-ansible RC1 we can go back to master
15:37:57 <yoctozepto> indeed
15:38:02 <mgoddard> sean-k-mooney: today, yes
15:38:08 <sean-k-mooney> yoctozepto: it explains what im seeing
15:38:31 <sean-k-mooney> ok all is good
15:39:48 <mgoddard> Any other topics for today?
15:40:35 <yoctozepto> low activity today
15:40:42 <yoctozepto> everyone prepping for vptg
15:40:43 <kplant> i have a quick one
15:40:57 <kplant> is there any apetite to bump to rabbitmq 3.8 in U?
15:41:11 <kplant> reason i ask is the official prometheus plugin is shipped with 3.8
15:41:12 <yoctozepto> kplant: to deprecate and move to amqp
15:41:22 <yoctozepto> :D
15:41:37 <mgoddard> yoctozepto: not official party line :p
15:41:37 <yoctozepto> just kidding, rabbitmq needs some love indeed
15:41:47 <yoctozepto> we are blocked by erlang vm being old
15:42:01 <mgoddard> do we know what centos 8 gives us?
15:42:05 <yoctozepto> rmq 3.8 solves a bunch of issues with ipv6 as well
15:42:19 <yoctozepto> mgoddard: not checked
15:43:02 <mgoddard> I think it's worth a discussion. But let's also see what, if anything, centos 8 does for us
15:43:19 <yoctozepto> no rabbitmq
15:43:29 <yoctozepto> in the default repos
15:43:53 <yoctozepto> no erlang either hmm
15:44:21 <yoctozepto> probably will be shipped by rdo
15:44:43 <yoctozepto> we need upstream for ubuntu anyways
15:44:53 <mgoddard> kplant: maybe you could investigate and report back?
15:44:54 <yoctozepto> it was too late for train
15:44:57 <yoctozepto> to coordinate
15:45:35 <mgoddard> added to PTG agenda
15:48:05 <mgoddard> ok, any more?
15:48:13 <kplant> mgoddard: yeah i was actually poking through the el8 mirrors until i got a call
15:49:21 <yoctozepto> none from me
15:49:26 <yoctozepto> let's wrap it up I think
15:49:29 <mgoddard> Thanks all
15:49:32 <mgoddard> #endmeeting