15:00:30 <mgoddard> #startmeeting kolla 15:00:31 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Feb 5 15:00:30 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:32 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:34 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' 15:00:42 <mgoddard> #topic rollcall 15:00:51 <mgoddard> \o 15:00:53 <scottsol> o/ 15:00:56 <osmanlicilegi> o/ 15:01:55 <yoctozepto> o/ 15:02:48 <mgoddard> #topic agenda 15:02:55 <mgoddard> * Roll-call 15:02:57 <mgoddard> * Announcements 15:02:59 <mgoddard> ** https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ansible-outreach/sLte90d5hdc 15:03:01 <mgoddard> * Review action items from last meeting 15:03:03 <mgoddard> * CI status 15:03:05 <mgoddard> * Ussuri release planning 15:03:07 <mgoddard> * lack of features: https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/train/components/kolla-ansible 15:03:09 <mgoddard> * CI scenarios: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaAnsibleScenarios 15:03:11 <mgoddard> #topic announcements 15:03:40 <mgoddard> #info Ansible contributor conference on 30-31 March 15:03:49 <mgoddard> #link https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ansible-outreach/sLte90d5hdc 15:04:05 <mgoddard> Any others? 15:04:11 <yoctozepto> not here 15:04:30 <osmanlicilegi> there will be an open infra days on 17th march and the local community is interested having sessions with kolla and openstack-ansible 15:04:40 <osmanlicilegi> https://openinfradayturkey.com/ 15:04:49 <osmanlicilegi> mgoddard: would you like to visit istanbul? :) 15:05:28 <mgoddard> wow that's a big venue 15:05:41 <yoctozepto> "OpenStack Foundation officially supports and sponsors this event. " 15:05:55 <yoctozepto> well, nice 15:06:41 <mgoddard> it would be good to have someone talking about kolla there 15:06:47 <osmanlicilegi> we haven't had any openstack days since 2017 15:07:08 <mgoddard> I'm not sure if I'd be able to do it 15:07:17 <mgoddard> anyone else available for it? 15:07:54 <mnasiadka> I could - I think 15:08:18 <mnasiadka> If nobody else is interested ;) 15:08:26 <mgoddard> using up a lot of my 'wife single parenting' credits with trips to london 15:08:43 <osmanlicilegi> if nobody can join us, I will talk with the organizers for a turkish kolla session 15:09:01 <mgoddard> that would be good if you can make it mnasiadka 15:11:02 <mgoddard> if not, osmanlicilegi can fly the flag for kolla in Turkish 15:11:20 <mgoddard> #topic Review action items from last meeting 15:11:22 <mgoddard> mnasiadka to herd cats for contributor guide goal 15:11:29 <mgoddard> any cats herded? 15:11:59 <mgoddard> there was a mail on openstack-discuss about it 15:12:00 <mgoddard> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012364.html 15:12:00 <mnasiadka> osmanlicilegi herded 15:12:16 <osmanlicilegi> I think he's still waiting for me. I couldn't have chance to read all the docs this week. 15:12:18 <mnasiadka> I saw it, will look into templates 15:13:17 <osmanlicilegi> I need some more time cause I'm overloaded with the datacenter migration project 15:13:29 <mgoddard> we have some time 15:13:45 <mgoddard> it's not affected by feature freeze as it's docs, so no huge rush 15:14:03 <mgoddard> #topic CI status 15:14:12 <mgoddard> All looking good? 15:14:24 <mgoddard> I noticed rocky ubuntu publish jobs are failing 15:14:51 <mgoddard> yet another ruby issue 15:15:11 <mgoddard> fluentd image 15:15:28 <osmanlicilegi> fluent-plugin-elasticsearch requires Ruby version >= 2.3. 15:15:33 <osmanlicilegi> need to pin this too 15:15:39 <osmanlicilegi> I'll do it 15:15:58 <mgoddard> thanks osmanlicilegi 15:16:08 <mgoddard> #action osmanlicilegi to fix rocky ubuntu build jobs 15:16:13 <osmanlicilegi> what do you think about pinning fluentd to prevent further errors? 15:16:49 <osmanlicilegi> like rabbit or elk stack, we can upgrade it under control 15:17:08 <mgoddard> I think it's a plugin rather than fluentd itself 15:17:08 <mgoddard> but yes we need to pin something I expect 15:18:35 <mgoddard> Otherwise CI looks fine 15:18:35 <osmanlicilegi> ok, I'll look for it and will send a patch for your reviews 15:18:45 <mgoddard> thanks 15:18:57 <mgoddard> #topic Ussuri release planning 15:19:03 <mgoddard> I'll start with C8 15:19:11 <mgoddard> we've merged a lot of patches now 15:19:53 <mgoddard> https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/centos-rhel-8+(status:open+OR+status:merged) 15:20:30 <mgoddard> 3 more patches and we will have most deploy jobs in kolla and kolla-ansible 15:20:43 <mgoddard> status here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-centos8 15:21:06 <mnasiadka> I'll push a review for c8 ceph-ansible jobs 15:21:17 <mgoddard> excellent 15:21:34 <mgoddard> we have hrw's patch for hacluster 15:21:50 <mgoddard> although it lacks crmsh so won't get masakari passing 15:21:53 <osmanlicilegi> and I'll start for rmq and elk soon 15:22:28 <mgoddard> yep, those are big ones 15:23:33 <mgoddard> do we need a TODO list on that status page? 15:24:07 <mgoddard> at some point we need to merge all this stuff back to train 15:24:21 <mnasiadka> I think a TODO list would be nice 15:24:40 <osmanlicilegi> +1 15:25:01 <mnasiadka> we all know c8 is the biggest priority, so if we more or less know the bits and pieces to do - it helps with clarity of picking up items 15:25:27 <mgoddard> ok 15:25:37 <mgoddard> #action mgoddard to add a TODO list to centos8 status page 15:25:59 <mgoddard> What else is going on for Ussuri currently? 15:26:56 <mgoddard> Ceph removal 15:27:09 <mgoddard> Do we have our ducks lined up for that? 15:27:21 <mgoddard> ceph-ansible upgrade merged 15:27:23 <mgoddard> mnasiadka 15:27:36 <mgoddard> anything else we need to do? 15:27:43 <mnasiadka> yeah, I'll update the change for removal and once it passes - we should be fine 15:28:22 <mgoddard> images too? 15:28:33 <mnasiadka> the external ceph doc is now very straightforward - but if anybody sees any items we could be better at when it comes to external ceph - I'm open for proposals 15:28:40 <mnasiadka> well, k-a part first - then removal of images 15:28:46 <mgoddard> +1 15:29:20 <mgoddard> we need to remove ceph jobs from kolla first 15:29:31 <mgoddard> and replace with ceph-ansible 15:29:54 <mnasiadka> yeah, makes sense 15:29:58 <mnasiadka> will note that 15:30:41 <mgoddard> ok 15:30:49 <mgoddard> Other features people want to discuss? 15:31:10 <osmanlicilegi> nope 15:31:12 <yoctozepto> none here so far 15:31:40 <mgoddard> #topic lack of features: https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/train/components/kolla-ansible 15:31:46 <mgoddard> what's all this then? 15:32:11 <yoctozepto> mgoddard: we might like to brag like the others do :-) 15:32:16 <mgoddard> example? 15:32:25 <yoctozepto> https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/train/components/openstack-ansible 15:32:34 <yoctozepto> https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/train/components/tripleo 15:32:48 <mgoddard> I see 15:33:09 <yoctozepto> https://opendev.org/osf/openstack-map/src/branch/master/deployment_tools.yaml 15:33:14 <yoctozepto> https://opendev.org/osf/openstack-map/src/branch/master/deployment_tools_capabilities.yaml 15:33:30 <mnasiadka> So - should I rebase the docker healthchecks patch? 15:33:33 <mnasiadka> If we're in features? 15:33:36 <mnasiadka> And somebody will review it? 15:33:45 <mnasiadka> :) 15:34:09 <mgoddard> https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/train/components/kayobe 15:34:10 <yoctozepto> mnasiadka: you late, we already moved on 15:34:26 <mnasiadka> well, I'll ask in a month :D 15:34:29 <yoctozepto> mgoddard: yeah and kayobe :-) 15:34:31 <mgoddard> wrong mascot for kayobe! 15:34:36 <openstackgerrit> Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla master: CI: Replace ceph jobs with ceph-ansible https://review.opendev.org/705986 15:34:56 <yoctozepto> oh fsck 15:35:28 <yoctozepto> https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/train/components/bifrost 15:35:32 <yoctozepto> looks like placeholder mascot 15:35:57 <mgoddard> :( 15:36:20 <mgoddard> https://opendev.org/osf/openstack-map/src/branch/master/deployment_tools_capabilities.yaml#L168 15:36:58 <yoctozepto> getting it from barbican lol 15:37:03 <yoctozepto> a bug to report 15:37:13 <mgoddard> I think we can claim all features except supports-heterogeneous-versions 15:37:33 <mgoddard> which might or might not work 15:37:41 <mgoddard> but we make no guarantee 15:38:07 <mgoddard> so who would like to do the bragging? 15:38:56 <mgoddard> I'll take it 15:39:07 <yoctozepto> yeah, ptl is recommended 15:39:25 <mgoddard> #action mgoddard to add features for kolla and kayobe to openstack-map 15:39:44 <mgoddard> #topic CI scenarios: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaAnsibleScenarios 15:40:08 <mgoddard> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaAnsibleScenarios 15:40:35 <yoctozepto> what about that magnum with designate 15:40:47 <mgoddard> match made in heaven 15:40:49 <mgoddard> maybe 15:41:27 <mgoddard> one easy win we could get is to drop cinder-lvm 15:41:35 <mgoddard> save some cycles 15:41:50 <mgoddard> make sure the zun job is triggered on all necessary changes 15:41:57 <mgoddard> anyone want to pick that up? 15:43:04 * yoctozepto is up 15:43:24 <yoctozepto> up to the task 15:43:34 <yoctozepto> and seriously 15:43:56 <yoctozepto> who commented on that magnum+designate :-) 15:44:00 <yoctozepto> maybe it's right 15:44:01 <yoctozepto> I don 15:44:04 <yoctozepto> t know 15:44:20 <mgoddard> #action yoctozepto to drop cinder-lvm CI and job and trigger zun job on cinder-lvm role changes 15:45:14 <mgoddard> what do people think about the 'alternative compute' job? 15:45:18 <mgoddard> bit of a catch all 15:45:25 <mgoddard> qinling? 15:45:26 <mgoddard> senlin 15:45:28 <mgoddard> masakari 15:45:30 <mgoddard> neutron+ovn 15:45:32 <mgoddard> swift? 15:45:33 <hrw> it's wednesday already? ouch 15:45:34 <mgoddard> ironic? 15:45:36 <mgoddard> nova cells? 15:45:38 <mgoddard> ovn? 15:46:04 <mgoddard> lol 15:46:14 <mgoddard> meeting time hrw 15:46:30 <mgoddard> we assigned all actions to you 15:46:37 <yoctozepto> mgoddard: if we have no better scenarios 15:46:52 <mgoddard> well we're literally making this stuff up 15:47:11 <mgoddard> if there's a better scenario then we can use it 15:49:42 <openstackgerrit> Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CentOS 8: Add deploy jobs in CI https://review.opendev.org/693544 15:49:54 <mgoddard> any other thoughts on CI scenarios? 15:50:07 <yoctozepto> hrw, mnasiadka, osmanlicilegi ? 15:50:44 <mnasiadka> I was thinking about scale out 15:50:54 <osmanlicilegi> seems quite well for me, at least for start 15:50:57 <mnasiadka> (Controller wise) 15:52:35 <mgoddard> we do get caught out on scale out sometimes. Seems like a lot to add an extra job though 15:53:20 <mgoddard> would need a few changes to the zuul playbooks 15:53:46 <mnasiadka> yeah, most probably - but we would benefit in future :) 15:54:18 <mgoddard> compute scale out is probably a more common operational task 15:54:37 <yoctozepto> but much simpler :-) 15:54:44 <mgoddard> although generally less troublesome due to lack of clustered services 15:54:52 <mgoddard> add it to the list as a suggestion 15:55:04 <mgoddard> let's get some open time in 15:55:08 <mgoddard> #topic open discussion 15:55:27 <mgoddard> Any topics for today? 15:57:01 <osmanlicilegi> I'm done. I feel like my brain stopped :| 15:57:34 <scottsol> if anyone has a spare mo I have a patch waiting thats been hanging around for a couple of week with no reviews https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702682/ 15:57:34 <patchbot> patch 702682 - kolla-ansible - Support Neutron policy file in both .json and .yam... - 2 patch sets 15:57:47 <scottsol> low priority just a gentle poke 15:57:57 <mgoddard> thanks scottsol 15:58:20 <mgoddard> I'll put it on my list 15:58:27 <hrw> scottsol: expand both commit message and relnote please 15:59:37 <mgoddard> I think we're done here 15:59:42 <mgoddard> Thanks everyone 15:59:45 <mgoddard> #endmeeting