15:00:30 #startmeeting kolla 15:00:31 Meeting started Wed Mar 25 15:00:30 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:32 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:33 #topic rollcacll 15:00:34 The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' 15:00:36 #topic rollcall 15:00:45 \o 15:01:19 o/ 15:03:57 yoctozepto, mnasiadka, osmanlicilegi: meeting? 15:04:09 o/ 15:05:02 o/ 15:05:36 #topic agenda 15:05:43 * Roll-call 15:05:45 * Announcements 15:05:47 ** TC & PTL election season starting 24th March https://governance.openstack.org/election/ 15:05:49 * Review action items from last meeting 15:05:51 * CI status 15:05:53 * Kolla --SIG-- (aka Kolla Klub?) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig 15:05:55 * Ussuri release planning (kayobe) 15:05:57 * Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) 15:05:59 #topic announcements 15:06:02 #info TC & PTL election season starting 24th March 15:06:10 #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ 15:06:12 \0 15:07:35 If anyone is considering running for PTL, nominations run until next tuesday 15:07:44 Any other announcements? 15:07:48 why when we have mgoddard 15:08:24 praise the goddard 15:08:25 mgoddard 4l 15:08:34 mgoddard: if you are happy with us, please go for the next cycle :] 15:08:37 always good to mix things up from time to time 15:09:31 Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix kolla-ansible stop with heterogeneous hosts https://review.opendev.org/714496 15:09:37 #info Kolla Klub meeting slot doodle poll https://doodle.com/poll/9g7czxmdngd5zz4t 15:10:01 Please respond with your availability if you have not yet 15:10:27 So far Thursday 16:00-17:00 UTC is winning 15:10:44 hopefully we will not get confused by daylight saving switch this weekend 15:10:55 #topic Review action items from last meeting 15:11:15 mgoddard to raise a bug on Ceph job fails 15:11:17 mnasiadka to look into Ceph job fails 15:11:19 mgoddard to spam people about kolla SIG 15:11:21 mgoddard to ask ML about uwsgi etc 15:11:25 done, done, done, wontfix 15:11:45 #topic CI status 15:12:05 Kolla CI says RED but no issues 15:12:12 (on whiteboard 15:12:18 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard 15:12:24 issueless RED 15:12:33 just assume RED 15:12:38 I think it's green? 15:13:19 thanks to mnasiadka for fixing the kolla-ceph issue on stable branches 15:13:55 #topic Kolla --SIG-- (aka Kolla Klub?) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig 15:14:09 We have a good list of people now 15:14:22 Just need to find a slot, then we're good to go 15:14:28 I have no more to say on it today... 15:14:31 Anyone else? 15:15:23 #topic Ussuri release planning (kayobe) 15:15:30 jovial[m], dougsz, priteau 15:15:40 I think priteau is busy 15:15:43 what's up jovial[m]? 15:16:43 I've been slacking on the kayobe front I'm afraid. Still hoping to pick up this work on the custom extension points soon. 15:16:52 that would be nice 15:17:13 https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/kayobe+status:open 15:17:22 we made some good progress on reviews recently 15:17:51 still a few to go 15:18:10 would be good to get https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712133/ in and backported 15:18:10 patch 712133 - kayobe - CentOS 8: seed VM & bifrost - 3 patch sets 15:19:28 Yeah, centos 8 support would be huge. I will try an take a look today. 15:19:46 Currently working on the CentOS 7 to 8 migration. Making progress 15:20:03 #topic Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) 15:20:25 On the topic of 7 to 8 migration, I hit an interesting issue today 15:20:44 if we have mixed 7 & 8 controllers then rabbitmq doesn't work 15:20:55 7 has 3.7.10, 8 has 3.7.24 15:21:37 do they have same erlang version? 15:21:38 would anyone expect that combination to work? 15:21:55 do they need to? 15:22:13 they shouldn't 15:22:54 but may give a clue to deep dive 15:23:30 22.1.8 on c8, 19.3.6.4 on c7 15:23:34 oh gosh 15:23:40 quite a jump 15:23:52 it's erlang, trust me :) 15:23:57 :) 15:24:17 please let me finish my rabbitmq upgrade work this week 15:24:29 that would be good, but won't help here 15:24:34 hereby I allow you to :-) 15:24:35 this is on train 15:24:51 yeah, that's pity 15:25:05 nobody upgrades rmq then 15:25:19 one solution is to first upgrade rmq on c7 to 3.7.24 15:26:02 then? 15:26:20 then it will be at the same version on c7 and c8 15:26:31 we can upgrade erlang to match too 15:27:15 mgoddard: still, there is no point in time where rmq works 15:27:18 makes sense if we won't need to upgrade rmq for train :) 15:27:35 yoctozepto: why not? 15:27:36 if you have to suddenly switch whole cluster to the new version 15:27:44 oh 15:27:50 well we can upgrade rmq 15:28:20 we have an upgrade.yml that stops all but one, then starts up a new cluster 15:28:51 problem with c7->8 is that there is a long time with mixed versions 15:29:03 oh, I see what you mean 15:29:17 still, for c7->c7 you need the same magic 15:29:30 yes, which we have 15:29:41 as long as you run upgrade not deploy 15:29:42 so images are there, just no right logic to handle this dump 15:30:28 why oh why rmq 15:31:03 it would just be something else if not 15:31:09 it's just the difficult part 15:31:27 although should be easier 15:31:34 rmq 3.7.10 can run at most with erlang 21.x and rmq 3.7.24 can run at lest with erlang 21.3. we can try pinning erlang version to 21.3. 15:32:06 well, we probably need 22 anyway 15:32:12 it's not about preparing images 15:32:31 unless we actually need 19->20->21->22 to do it properly 15:33:10 let's hope not 15:33:31 ++ 15:33:51 so next question - can we upgrade rabbitmq on a stable branch? 15:34:14 or do we need a separate rabbitmq-3-7-24 image? 15:34:34 major erlang upgrade sounds dangerous to me 15:34:38 http://paste.openstack.org/show/791143/ 15:35:16 it doesn't make sense to me; rmq is hardly rolling this way 15:35:59 yeah, I thought erlang was supposed to be about reliability & availability 15:36:31 yeah, considering its adoption in telco 15:36:43 anyways, sounds like we have a potential path forward 15:36:43 must be why we get bad service from time to time 15:36:45 thanks 15:36:47 dunking erlang 15:37:27 Do we have any other Ussuri topics to discuss? 15:38:21 It should probably be noted that we agreed in a call last week with yoctozepto, mnasiadka, generalfuzz & stackedsax to park the uwsgi work for now, and continue using httpd/mod_wsgi for backend TLS 15:38:29 I was out for some reasons but I'm back to finish my works asap. 15:38:49 good to hear osmanlicilegi 15:39:20 reviews are welcome for backend TLS: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/713986/ 15:39:21 patch 713986 - kolla-ansible - Add support for encrypting backend HAProxy traffic... - 5 patch sets 15:39:47 +1, let's aim to merge that before next meeting 15:39:59 In terms of timing for Ussuri: 15:40:01 Kolla feature freeze: Apr 27 - May 01 15:40:03 Kolla RC1: May 11 - May 15 15:40:05 Kolla final release: Jun 1 - Jun 5 15:40:14 https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html 15:41:03 Feature freeze for most of openstack is Apr 6 - 10 15:41:13 Getting close 15:42:30 #topic Open discussion 15:42:55 Hopefully everyone is coping in these crazy times 15:43:15 +1 15:43:42 they closed the nearby playground :-( 15:44:21 you don't have kids do you yoctozepto? 15:44:33 mgoddard: no, I don't 15:44:38 but it still looks sad :-( 15:44:45 crazy? I'm worse than crazy :))) 15:45:08 I mean, it's a bit dull and depressing nowadays 15:45:45 we at least have had some sun here 15:46:40 computers are a good distraction 15:46:51 as are 8 month old kids 15:47:05 aww, how is the little folk doing? :D 15:47:07 doesn't leave much time for moping around 15:47:07 awww 15:47:16 he's good, mostly 15:47:39 his mum is going a little loopy 15:47:55 he likes to shout and grunt a lot 15:48:27 but you can't be annoyed for long as he's very cute 15:48:32 :-) 15:48:54 the other day I was eating an apple and he laughed every time I took a bite 15:49:10 aww 15:49:22 maybe I'm doing it wrong 15:49:25 does he have a koala shirt? if not, he should have :) 15:49:29 I somehow feel better from these stories 15:49:49 no koala shirt yet, but that's a nice idea 15:49:59 koala costume 15:50:33 :) 15:50:37 mgoddard and the koalas 15:50:53 why dont we have a rock group? 15:51:24 I can play bass and guitar 15:51:30 Or at least I could 10 years ago 15:51:36 I can play on nerves :D 15:51:46 I got keys 15:51:54 The video latency might kill it though 15:52:04 I can play drum better than animal from muppets 15:52:19 we might borrow that cam/mic from hrw so at least it will be lively 15:52:21 unless we add a 1 bar delay 15:52:22 I got horns 15:52:24 :D 15:53:33 osmanlicilegi: nobody can play drums better than Aminal. What are you talking about? 15:54:30 ok, let's wrap up 15:54:33 Thanks all 15:54:36 #endmeeting