15:10:48 <yoctozepto> #startmeeting kolla
15:10:48 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Dec  2 15:10:48 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yoctozepto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:10:52 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'kolla'
15:11:16 <yoctozepto> #topic Roll-call
15:11:16 <yoctozepto> o/
15:11:20 <yoctozepto> \o/
15:11:26 <osmanlicilegi> o/
15:11:28 <yoctozepto> mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak
15:11:36 <yoctozepto> mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak - meeting time
15:11:49 * yoctozepto doing another meeting concurrently
15:12:25 * mnasiadka lies down under a builder called work issues
15:12:44 * yoctozepto knows how mnasiadka is feeling
15:14:16 <yoctozepto> wuchunyang: meeting
15:14:26 <Fl1nt> \o
15:14:28 <wuchunyang> o/
15:14:41 <yoctozepto> #topic Agenda
15:14:52 <yoctozepto> * Roll-call
15:14:56 <yoctozepto> * Announcements
15:14:59 <yoctozepto> * Review action items from the last meeting
15:15:03 <yoctozepto> * CI status
15:15:07 <yoctozepto> * Victoria release planning
15:15:14 <yoctozepto> * Dockerhub pull rate limits https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/docker-pull-limits
15:15:18 <yoctozepto> * Cinder active/active https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1904062
15:15:19 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1904062 in kolla-ansible wallaby "external ceph cinder volume config breaks volumes on ussuri upgrade" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Michal Nasiadka (mnasiadka)
15:15:22 <yoctozepto> * Wallaby PTG actions
15:15:45 <yoctozepto> (but I believe we will skip the issues since too many cores are missing)
15:15:56 <yoctozepto> #topic Announcements
15:16:04 <yoctozepto> anyone has any announcements?
15:16:45 <Fl1nt> not so far ^^ still working on few patches such as cloudkitty and SSO
15:18:03 <yoctozepto> no announcements today then
15:18:09 <yoctozepto> #topic Review action items from the last meeting
15:18:25 <yoctozepto> #info mgoddard to try reverting to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/761194/2
15:18:33 <yoctozepto> it happened
15:18:40 <yoctozepto> #info yoctozepto fix NFV
15:18:43 <yoctozepto> it happened as well
15:18:49 <yoctozepto> not sure if merged
15:19:16 <yoctozepto> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/764816
15:19:33 <yoctozepto> it seems Tacker folks started observing the change
15:19:52 <yoctozepto> please review anyhow
15:19:57 <yoctozepto> let it be green
15:20:02 <Fl1nt> We'll have a look.
15:20:09 <yoctozepto> #info yoctozepto deprecate the retired Wallabies
15:20:15 <Fl1nt> Oo meh??
15:20:30 <yoctozepto> he did not because gmann told me they are to be dropped entirely
15:20:40 <Fl1nt> ah ah ah ^^
15:20:57 <yoctozepto> (well, using 3rd and 1st person to mean  myself went ugly)
15:21:00 <Fl1nt> let be kind with the wallabies :p
15:21:10 <yoctozepto> Fl1nt: no, we are actually not
15:21:20 <yoctozepto> we are kicking them out of the nest
15:21:29 <Fl1nt> poor poor animals :D
15:21:40 <yoctozepto> it is about the retired projects in the wallaby cycle
15:21:50 <yoctozepto> no animals were hurt during this
15:22:00 <yoctozepto> for the record :-)
15:22:02 <Fl1nt> Ouf ^^
15:22:24 <Fl1nt> Lets clean everything! with vaccum \o/
15:23:35 <yoctozepto> indeed
15:23:43 <yoctozepto> #topic CI status
15:24:32 <yoctozepto> kolla looks pretty green
15:25:10 <yoctozepto> k-a as well
15:25:42 <yoctozepto> current kayobe branches GREEN as well
15:25:52 <Fl1nt> houray!
15:25:54 <yoctozepto> I wonder why we are keeping the status for stein, rocky and queens
15:26:09 <yoctozepto> I'd say drop
15:26:24 <Fl1nt> I Don't know ^^
15:26:30 <yoctozepto> but not doing without blessing from the others and there seems to be only me here being core :-)
15:26:52 <yoctozepto> anyhow
15:26:56 <Fl1nt> maybe there are few people still relying on rocky/stein and waiting for their maintenance windows to update?
15:26:59 <yoctozepto> feeling good for having green CI
15:27:14 <Fl1nt> yeah, that's a cool step
15:27:18 <yoctozepto> Fl1nt: undoubtedly
15:27:26 <yoctozepto> but it's not the upstream focus
15:27:40 <yoctozepto> #topic Victoria release planning
15:27:50 <yoctozepto> seriously hard to discuss it with myself :-)
15:27:53 <Fl1nt> sure
15:28:15 <Fl1nt> have to wait for some additional core members.
15:29:48 <mnasiadka> yoctozepto: we need to fix cinder, but I lack time and a testing env - we need to wait for Mark to be back next week ;)
15:29:54 <Fl1nt> So, officially, cinder only support cluster_name since microversion 3.61 from Victoria: https://youtu.be/54f6SmUifdA?t=688
15:30:05 <yoctozepto> Fl1nt: yeah, more so when I had health issues and not in 100% shape still
15:30:35 <yoctozepto> mnasiadka: I planned on doing lightweight cinder testing as it's in my "care scope"
15:30:49 <yoctozepto> but, well, health is a traitor
15:30:58 <Fl1nt> mine too, but I'm stuck to train for now and at least 3 more months.
15:31:21 <yoctozepto> and more so new gerrit really made it harder for me to concentrate on what matters :P
15:31:42 <Fl1nt> I'm pushing for an upgrade really hard, but we have roadmap release date that come closer so it will be for our next sprint.
15:32:36 <mnasiadka> yoctozepto: we just need to handle upgrade cases
15:32:38 <Fl1nt> yeah new gerrit interface is quite disturbing and refreshing in the same time, really awkward feeling.
15:33:19 <Fl1nt> mnasiadka, only from Ussuri to Victoria right?
15:33:34 <mnasiadka> Nope
15:34:03 <mnasiadka> We need to handle both backend_host and no backend_host configs
15:34:04 <Fl1nt> well, it wasn't officially introduced before victoria so I doubt it would be clever to enforce it on Ussuri
15:34:11 <Fl1nt> aaaah
15:34:12 <Fl1nt> ok
15:34:27 <Fl1nt> thought you were talking about cluster_name
15:34:32 <mnasiadka> Because backend_host was in docs and some people use it
15:34:37 <Fl1nt> yep
15:34:57 <Fl1nt> and it was indeed "natively" used by k-a at some point.
15:35:12 <mnasiadka> well, we need to use cluster_name, but we need to move from broken to proper a/a somehow
15:35:26 <mnasiadka> Without telling users to remove all volumes :)
15:35:44 <Fl1nt> so T/U needs backend_host and then from U/V we need to upgrade the conf with cluster_name and cluster_name need to retrieve its value from the older backend_host.
15:35:44 <yoctozepto> ^ this
15:36:03 <yoctozepto> we need to properly fix all expected envs
15:36:23 <yoctozepto> it is a bit convoluted
15:36:29 <yoctozepto> as we made an error in an error
15:36:30 <yoctozepto> :-)
15:36:36 <Fl1nt> ^ that one will be challenging as you can reliably know and predict users cluster confs.
15:36:49 <Fl1nt> s/can/can't/
15:37:02 <yoctozepto> yeah, we can't, we will have to document and communicate it well as well
15:37:11 <Fl1nt> yep
15:37:23 <Fl1nt> first ERRATUM for K-A \o/
15:37:40 <yoctozepto> far from first
15:40:57 <yoctozepto> all right, we are pretty short in people today so I am doing a trick now
15:41:02 <yoctozepto> #topic Open discussion
15:41:16 <yoctozepto> please raise anything you want
15:41:52 <rafaelweingartne> I would like to ask about our patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/695432
15:42:05 <rafaelweingartne> which is introducing support to Open ID Connect
15:42:16 <rafaelweingartne> we updated it with a detailed document on how to create a DEV env. to test it
15:42:49 <rafaelweingartne> as we discussed in the PTL meeting, people were not comfortable to approve it, because they did not know how to test it.
15:42:51 <yoctozepto> oh, great; that will help
15:42:58 <rafaelweingartne> we hope that this will facilitate things now
15:43:02 <yoctozepto> yeah, you mean the PTG
15:43:11 <rafaelweingartne> exactly
15:43:30 <rafaelweingartne> I am bad with acronyms
15:43:34 <rafaelweingartne> :)
15:43:42 <yoctozepto> no problem
15:45:41 <headphoneJames> I would like to have a couple eyes on the lets encrypt spec:  https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-ansible-letsencrypt-https
15:46:09 <Fl1nt> rafaelweingartne, I'm doing the SAML2 part of your patch, we should coordinate to have federation as a whole supported.
15:46:34 <rafaelweingartne> that would be awesome
15:46:54 <rafaelweingartne> I would like to finish and merge this patch first though. It is too big already
15:47:10 <rafaelweingartne> If you need any help to add the SAML support to it, just ping me
15:49:45 <Fl1nt> I've finished it, I just need time to push my patch but overhaul I need to discuss with you about implementation details.
15:50:44 <rafaelweingartne> That is cool, just let me know when you are ready then
15:55:29 <yoctozepto> headphoneJames: you got mine
15:55:41 <yoctozepto> headphoneJames: I left several comments
15:55:52 <headphoneJames> yoctozepto: sweet, and thanks
15:55:54 <yoctozepto> headphoneJames: overally great and I see how it will work
15:55:59 <yoctozepto> :-)
15:56:27 <headphoneJames> I've done a first pass at implementation that is working
15:57:53 <yoctozepto> headphoneJames: yay
15:58:43 <yoctozepto> all right
15:58:49 <yoctozepto> thank you all very much for attending
15:59:01 <yoctozepto> have a good rest of the day (or night)
15:59:06 <yoctozepto> #endmeeting