15:00:56 #startmeeting kolla 15:00:57 Meeting started Wed May 12 15:00:56 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:00 The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' 15:01:44 #topic rollcall 15:02:03 /o\ 15:02:45 o 15:02:47 \o 15:02:52 o/ 15:02:58 o/ 15:03:03 I'm new here. 15:03:20 o/ 15:04:05 Hello to all! 15:04:27 welcome 15:04:40 kemopq: during this hour we have a meeting. stay, ask questions if they fit agenda. 15:05:00 #topic agenda 15:05:12 * Roll-call 15:05:15 * Agenda 15:05:17 * Announcements 15:05:19 * Review action items from the last meeting 15:05:21 * CI status 15:05:23 * Wallaby release planning 15:05:25 ** Debian bullseye 15:05:27 ** monasca-grafana 15:05:29 ** chrony 15:05:31 * Xena cycle planning 15:05:33 ** master branch life cycle 15:05:35 * Open discussion 15:05:37 #topic announcements 15:06:37 Please welcome kemopq (Klemen Pogacnik) 15:07:04 Klemen responded to the request for help that I added to the PTG summary email 15:07:37 welcome kemopq! 15:07:48 welcome 15:07:54 Welcome Kemopq! :-D 15:07:56 Thanks! I really appreciated your work. 15:07:56 kemopq offers some time to help with reviews, development, docs, bugs, etc 15:08:25 So please help if kemopq has any questions while getting up and running 15:08:25 cool ;D 15:08:49 We were already talking with mgoddard to start with docs and reviews. 15:09:03 kemopq: do you have a 1-2 line intro? 15:09:43 OK, I have a reach history of programing in C and C++. 15:10:07 I was specialized on providing high availability of embedded systems 15:10:30 In recent times I'm working on cloud platforms. 15:10:48 I use kolla and kolla-ansible since Rocky release. 15:10:56 Thanks kemopq, looking forward to working with you 15:11:22 I'm looking forward too 15:11:23 If anyone else would like to get more involved upstream, please do speak up - we are more than happy to help get you up and running 15:11:50 Let's get going, we have a few topics today 15:11:52 mnasiadka: ping 15:12:01 #topic Review action items from the last meeting 15:12:18 mgoddard email openstack-discuss about quay.io credentials 15:12:21 :( 15:12:22 #action mgoddard email openstack-discuss about quay.io credentials 15:12:26 one day 15:12:30 #topic CI status 15:13:13 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard 15:13:18 L40 15:13:55 we had a fix for prometheus land today, backports in progress 15:14:19 same with the elasticsearch issue 15:15:00 easy one to fix the nfv job: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788687 15:15:41 #topic Wallaby release planning 15:15:50 #topic Debian bullseye 15:16:16 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard 15:16:19 L187 15:17:14 mnasiadka looked at this 15:17:20 the libvirt/cgroups issue 15:17:41 he created https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/163 15:18:39 he also started a patch to configure the kernel for cgroups v1 and reboot in CI: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/790922 15:18:49 which looks like it passes 15:18:57 so that might be the simplest option 15:19:22 at least it works 15:19:55 right 15:20:15 we might still consider a host libvirtd, but don't need to be blocked by it 15:20:42 he then found the same OVS 2.15 issue we had in Ubuntu 15:21:11 only problem is that in Debian bullseye there is no 2.13 to pin to 15:21:33 so I think that's the new blocker 15:21:37 kevko: any help/ideas? 15:22:12 debian openstack team must have the same issue, so suggest we collaborate 15:22:43 sorry, didn't follow ...what's a problem ? 15:24:53 our debian upgrade jobs fail on bullseye due to OVS 2.15 15:28:00 well, I don't think we'll solve it here 15:28:11 kevko: mariadb docs pls 15:28:26 #topic monasca-grafana 15:28:48 mgoddard: tomorrow i will process 15:28:52 thanks 15:29:09 and i have to leave guys ..i am already late :( 15:29:17 k, bye kevko 15:29:39 currently the monasca-grafana image doesn't build 15:29:48 but we still try to deploy it in the monasca role 15:29:55 so we need to either fix it, or drop it 15:30:07 drop 15:30:18 no surprises from hrw :) 15:30:38 it's not quite that simple 15:31:06 before dropping we would need to switch the monasca role to use the vanilla grafana image 15:31:17 which is started here: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788228 15:31:23 I know, joking 15:31:43 dougsz is not available today sadly 15:31:47 monasca-grafana was known to be timebomb since ussuri or earlier 15:31:58 we just kept ignoring it's low quality 15:32:36 thanks openstackstatus 15:33:32 I think we need to speak to dougsz for this one 15:33:48 #topic chrony 15:34:02 We deprecated the chrony container in Wallaby 15:34:12 But we didn't add the code to remove it 15:34:25 So we need to do that 15:34:28 anyone want to pick it up? 15:34:39 it is k-a so not me, sorry 15:35:34 i can do it 15:35:51 great, thanks wuchunyang 15:36:18 probably we can use the common role, in upgrade.yml 15:36:41 #topic master branch life cycle 15:36:54 o, good one 15:36:57 yes 15:37:08 we have missed this the last few weeks 15:37:25 I think we're lacking mnasiadka and yoctozepto6 though, which could make it tough 15:37:40 let's see how we go 15:38:00 we're probably at the stage where we should open up the master branch for development 15:38:27 but stay on wallaby sources to have some sanity 15:38:36 that was the proposal at the PTG 15:38:42 yep 15:38:49 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-xena-ptg L283 15:40:07 so what do we need to do? Disable binary CI jobs? 15:40:20 we can leave them as they are 15:40:53 I am more thinking what to do about publishing 15:41:54 as for next month or two master == wallaby openstack so some users may find it weird. on the other side - their problem. master was never meant for production and can eat your kitten 15:42:33 right - nobody should be using master except for development 15:43:19 and we can have some changes which alter binary images as well. so when we keep them on ci it gets caught now instead months later 15:44:23 +1 15:44:44 so all we need to do for now is announce that master is open for development? 15:45:40 basically yes 15:45:54 ok 15:46:02 anyone have questions or thoughts? 15:46:19 and then we do development. in 2 months from now we move to Xena sources, and then to binaries 15:46:41 UCA/Xena exists already btw. builds even 15:47:36 I think we need to write this down, then send it to openstack-discuss 15:47:56 yep 15:47:59 I'll try to come up with something, then we can look at it in next week's meeting 15:48:14 ok 15:48:16 thanks 15:48:45 #action mgoddard draft proposal for new release process 15:49:14 #topic Open discussion 15:49:32 we managed to squeeze it into meeting time ;D 15:49:54 that's what happens when yoctozepto6 is away :) 15:50:00 ;P 15:50:34 anyone has some patch needing review? 15:50:51 well . . . . 15:50:59 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/741340 15:51:12 mgoddard: once we open master I would love to see all those drops merged. 15:51:26 Let's Decrypt? 15:52:21 Decrypt to the moon 15:52:37 it is all certs all way down 16:00:54 * hrw off 16:04:40 thanks all 16:04:42 #endmeeting