14:00:21 #startmeeting kolla 14:00:21 Meeting started Wed Jul 6 14:00:21 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yoctozepto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:21 The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' 14:00:26 #topic Roll-call 14:00:27 o/ 14:02:24 hmm, an empty room today? 14:02:38 no 14:02:55 i'm here ,too 14:02:59 :-) 14:03:25 But i wrote this: o/ before the meeting was started :) 14:03:31 I missed your lines before the meeting started :-) 14:03:43 \o 14:03:45 no problem, let's roll, maybe more cores will come at some point 14:03:54 frickler, nice 14:04:22 no chance of quorum today but we can proceed nonetheless 14:04:30 #topic Agenda 14:04:39 * Roll-call 14:04:39 * Agenda 14:04:39 * Announcements 14:04:39 * Review action items from the last meeting 14:04:39 * CI status 14:04:40 * Release tasks 14:04:40 * Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month) 14:04:42 * Current cycle planning 14:04:42 * Additional agenda (from whiteboard) 14:04:44 * Open discussion 14:04:48 and from the additional agenda we have: 14:04:53 (frickler) Virtual PTG planning 14:05:00 that's the agenda for today 14:05:02 let's rol 14:05:05 roll 14:05:16 #topci Announcements 14:05:19 #topic Announcements 14:05:33 Train is going EOL 14:05:51 no other important news from me 14:05:55 any others? 14:06:21 not from my side 14:06:36 #agreed 14:06:57 guessing frickler neither :-) 14:07:06 #topic Review action items from the last meeting 14:07:13 mnasiadka Monasca - ensure it's marked as unbuildable where it should be and evaluate later in the cycle if situation fixed itself 14:07:28 mnasiadka is not here and it's not done, repasting the action 14:07:32 #action mnasiadka Monasca - ensure it's marked as unbuildable where it should be and evaluate later in the cycle if situation fixed itself 14:07:50 #topic CI status 14:07:59 all in order as far as I could tell 14:08:28 Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: inspector: Prevent use of noauth in multi-region setup https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/848870 14:08:40 (except for train of course) 14:09:05 mgoddard proposing patches but not attending the meeting :-) 14:09:12 seems so 14:09:22 :-) 14:09:34 #topic Release tasks 14:10:08 it's Jul 04 - Jul 08 14:10:08 R-13 14:10:35 no actions for this week 14:10:48 #topic Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month) 14:10:54 and it's the first meeting in July 14:10:58 frickler has proposed a patch 14:11:06 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/848811 14:11:21 from my pov, it's good to release 14:11:22 yes, do we need to wait for anything? 14:11:27 else I'll unwip 14:11:34 guessing if mgoddard agrees, we can merge 14:12:37 o.k., let's just move if no objection 14:12:44 yeah 14:12:45 suggest we keep it as lightweight as possible - don't wait for non-critical changes 14:12:53 indeed 14:12:59 so 14:13:00 #agreed 14:13:11 #agreed to release stable branches 14:13:17 let's move on 14:13:26 #topic Current cycle planning 14:13:42 it's R-13, we are midcycle 14:14:03 I have something to brag about: I have finally reviewed kevko's proxysql patch 14:14:09 ;D 14:14:12 :D 14:14:25 kevko: oh, you are here 14:14:34 eh, cores, come on, participate in the meeting :-) 14:14:53 yeah I am, but we have vacation in czech ... so not in work ..but near PC 14:15:08 ah, so you are excused... this time! ;p 14:15:32 anyhow, back to R-13 - this is midcycle, need to focus on aligning with cycle priorities 14:16:10 no idea what happened to podman activities 14:16:35 any other priorities that other cores track? 14:17:25 jammy should still be a priority, but I didn't get to it recently 14:17:38 yeah, it should be; ack 14:18:04 anything to discuss regarding any current priorities? 14:18:08 what is actually problem with yammy ? i've seen something with /etc/localtime ? 14:18:13 (in logs) 14:18:29 it's jammy 14:18:39 and yeah, there were some mount issues 14:19:16 the tzdata pkg is no longer in the image by default 14:19:35 so the idea then came up whether we still need it in the containers at all 14:20:08 I'm not sure about that yet 14:21:34 ok 14:23:25 let's move on 14:23:40 #topic (frickler) Virtual PTG planning 14:23:58 the whiteboard also says: 14:24:01 when to do it 14:24:01 coordinate with other teams that also want to do virtual sessions? 14:24:14 yeah I thought I'd bring that up again to bring some more clarity for my planning 14:24:37 and also get some traction for other project to join the virtual train 14:25:25 but maybe noone else cares, I don't really know 14:26:06 is there anyone here who will attend the in-person PTG? 14:26:37 not me 14:26:41 because if not, we could even run our virtual sessions in parallel 14:27:21 one complaint from the for the previous ptgs was too much overlap in sessions 14:27:26 from me* 14:28:38 well, it's tightly packed 14:29:21 it doesn't have to, one could expand from just 4h a day to a longer window 14:29:54 but that was decided somehow magically for the first virtual PTG and seems difficult to revise 14:30:09 I won't attend in person 14:30:16 unless it's in the UK 14:31:34 well I haven't heard about getting Ohio back into the commonwealth ;) 14:31:54 one of these days 14:32:01 surely 14:33:31 so I guess we would have three sessions again - general/kolla - kolla-ansible - kayobe? 14:34:14 maybe we would want a timing that is more apac friendly? 14:35:27 anyway, it seems we still can decide anything on our own with this smallish group 14:35:45 maybe I'll make an etherpad with some ideas written out in more detail 14:36:33 related, any upcoming holiday plans? I might be away for the next three meeting, but not completely decided yet 14:38:18 not here, soonest in August 14:40:35 ok, let's move on 14:40:52 #topic Open discussion 14:41:56 I have one thing, there is a patch that want's to support hosts with IPv6 disabled 14:43:01 but somehow I cannot find it, was it abandoned? 14:43:08 no idea 14:43:37 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/846210 14:43:46 yes, just found it, too 14:44:07 I'm close to -2 on that one, but interested to head what others think 14:44:09 hear 14:44:56 I don't think we can support such weird OS setups. next someone has a system without systemd 14:45:05 well, what it does it moves certain vars to be configurable, which is a good thing (TM) 14:45:18 but it should not be marketed for disabling ipv6, come on 14:45:52 we don't need variables for everything, certain defaults can be just fine 14:46:11 and I don't want to have unnecessary complexity 14:46:27 that's why they were not moved still 14:46:31 hmm, I see your point 14:46:51 though I don't have a strong opinion on this one 14:46:56 ipv6 should not be disabled 14:46:59 and I also don't like IPv6 being treated as optional 14:47:35 ++ 14:48:22 nothing else to discuss? 14:49:47 ok, thank you everyone for joining 14:49:50 #endmeeting