14:00:01 <mnasiadka> #startmeeting kolla
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14:00:08 <mnasiadka> #topic rollcall
14:00:09 <mnasiadka> o/
14:00:09 <yoctozepto> o/
14:00:14 <RamonaRautenberg[m]> o/
14:00:26 <yoctozepto> hrw: to controlplane functioning at all
14:00:47 <hrw> (°)(.)
14:01:06 <hrw> yoctozepto: ok
14:01:17 <ihalomi> o/
14:01:28 <mmalchuk> hi
14:02:27 <mnasiadka> #topic agenda
14:02:27 <mnasiadka> * Review action items from the last meeting
14:02:27 <mnasiadka> * CI status
14:02:27 <mnasiadka> * Release tasks
14:02:27 <mnasiadka> * Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month)
14:02:28 <mnasiadka> * Current cycle planning
14:02:28 <mnasiadka> * Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:02:28 <TimBeermann[m]> o/
14:02:30 <mnasiadka> * Open discussion
14:02:40 <mnasiadka> #topic Review action items from the last meeting
14:03:10 <mnasiadka> mnasiadka Monasca - ensure it's marked as unbuildable where it should be and evaluate later in the cycle if situation fixed itself
14:03:44 <mnasiadka> I think that's done, it's marked as unbuildable, if we care about it - then we'll look at it near release
14:03:54 <mnasiadka> #topic CI status
14:04:12 <mnasiadka> whiteboard says it's green
14:04:32 <mnasiadka> #topic Release tasks
14:04:41 <hrw> not many changes recently so CI does not have anything new to fail on
14:04:48 <mgoddard> \o
14:04:51 <mnasiadka> it's R-11, nothing on our internal calendar
14:05:02 <mnasiadka> hrw: yeah, without centos nothing is failing :)
14:05:17 <hrw> mnasiadka: ;D
14:05:22 <mnasiadka> #topic Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month)
14:05:36 <mnasiadka> I don't think it's first meeting this month, so let's move on
14:05:41 <mnasiadka> #topic Current cycle planning
14:06:02 <mnasiadka> So, Ubuntu Jammy is on a good path to get merged I guess, need a second reviewer (thanks yoctozepto for reviewing)
14:06:09 <mnasiadka> hrw: how's CS9?
14:06:29 <hrw> images build. k-a has some stuff to sort out
14:06:32 <yoctozepto> yw mnasiadka
14:06:51 <mnasiadka> so cs9 in progress
14:06:55 <hrw> and I dropped dumb-init from cs9
14:07:10 <hrw> will get mariadb-clustercheck as systemd unit for cs9
14:07:21 <mnasiadka> well, I think if we're moving out of dumb-init - we should move everywhere
14:07:36 <mnasiadka> and probably it needs some better discussion if systemd is the proper direction ;-)
14:07:47 <mnasiadka> mgoddard, yoctozepto: any thoughts?
14:07:54 <hrw> mnasiadka: then it would need deprecation/removal cycle etc
14:08:02 <yoctozepto> systemd is the future (TM)
14:08:36 <yoctozepto> though it's probably an overkill
14:08:49 <mnasiadka> yeah, that's what I think
14:09:01 <mnasiadka> I proposed we could do socat instead of xinetd, just for simplicity
14:09:04 <hrw> give me working mariadb-clustercheck
14:09:19 <yoctozepto> indeed
14:09:34 <mgoddard> systemd sounds overkill
14:09:37 <yoctozepto> can you help hrw, mnasiadka?
14:09:47 <mnasiadka> Yes, I'll post a patch to move to socat instead of xinetd
14:09:50 <mgoddard> in a container at least
14:09:53 <yoctozepto> I am out of time
14:09:56 <yoctozepto> thanks
14:10:07 <hrw> mnasiadka: thanks
14:10:37 <mnasiadka> ok
14:10:42 <mnasiadka> any other features to discuss?
14:11:37 <mnasiadka> I guess we want to start RL9 work once CS9 is in nice state?
14:11:47 <hrw> first RL9 needs ceph etc repos
14:11:57 <mnasiadka> yeah
14:12:19 <hrw> CS9 patch has RL9 lines inside if someone wants to test
14:12:31 <mgoddard> can we use CS9 repos on RL9?
14:12:49 <hrw> mgoddard: what point of using rl9 then?
14:13:03 <mgoddard> base repos
14:13:17 <hrw> which may not be fully in match with cs9
14:13:19 <mgoddard> most would be rl9 or third party
14:13:32 <mgoddard> it could be a temporary solution
14:13:46 <mnasiadka> let's first have working cs9
14:13:57 <mnasiadka> then we can start filling rl9 gaps
14:14:08 <hrw> and in meantime someone can ask RL9 team do/when they plan SIG repos
14:14:48 <mnasiadka> well, initially they planned to use CentOS SIG repos
14:14:59 <mnasiadka> But I can ask around
14:14:59 <mgoddard> we can also test cs9 containers on rl9
14:15:07 <mgoddard> which is what we currently do with rl8
14:16:27 <mnasiadka> that's why let's get cs9 working and look at the situation a bit later than days after RL9.0 GA
14:16:35 <hrw> yep
14:16:45 <hrw> small steps
14:16:49 <mnasiadka> yes
14:17:00 <opendevreview> Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Move to CentOS Stream 9  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/836664
14:17:08 <hrw> let's play with dumb-init again
14:17:48 <mnasiadka> ok then, nobody wants to discuss features - let's go with additional agenda ;-)
14:18:00 <mnasiadka> #topic Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:18:08 <mnasiadka> (hrw) CentOS Stream 9
14:18:10 <mnasiadka> that's done
14:18:16 <mnasiadka> (frickler) Virtual PTG planning
14:18:23 <mnasiadka> when to do it
14:18:23 <mnasiadka> coordinate with other teams that also want to do virtual sessions?
14:18:37 <mnasiadka> So, first of all - we need to all agree that we're doing virtual PTG
14:18:41 <mnasiadka> nobody changed their mind?
14:18:50 <mnasiadka> As in ONLY virtual PTG
14:18:55 <hrw> vPTG or none
14:19:34 <mnasiadka> ok, that one is clear
14:19:48 <mnasiadka> when - I think we take the usual slot in the week and that's it?
14:20:48 <mnasiadka> and third - coordinate with other teams? I don't think we ever coordinated with other teams.
14:21:11 <mnasiadka> maybe frickler will raise this once again when he's back
14:21:15 <hrw> yoctozepto is in multiple teams so he needs to coordinate
14:21:20 <hrw> etc
14:21:34 <mnasiadka> ah yes, in that sense yes
14:21:40 <hrw> I try to attend multiarch sig meetings for example
14:22:03 <mnasiadka> my second nearly alive project is not doing PTG, so I'm not in that situation.
14:22:20 <mnasiadka> once the schedule will be more or less known - we can try to shuffle
14:22:26 <hrw> I remember spending time in nova ptg in past
14:22:44 <hrw> mnasiadka: we are good at shuffling tasks during day if someone is missing
14:22:56 <mnasiadka> hrw: yes, that's mastered ;)
14:23:01 <mnasiadka> ok, next one
14:23:02 <mnasiadka> (headphoneJames) please review let's encrypt patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/741340
14:23:11 <mnasiadka> I promised to review, so I guess it's time to look into it
14:23:38 <mnasiadka> if anybody (non-core? even better!) has spare cycles to review it and even test it - I would be grateful
14:24:12 <mnasiadka> (i.halomi) Podman and systemd support status
14:24:18 <mnasiadka> review of systemd with docker a current status on podman version
14:24:40 <mnasiadka> I think it's the same, reviewers welcome
14:25:04 <mnasiadka> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/816724
14:25:06 <ihalomi> would be really nice to get review as we are finishing podman version
14:25:47 <mnasiadka> +1
14:25:51 <mnasiadka> #topic Open discussion
14:26:04 <ihalomi> also i will create change for kolla-ansible collection for  podman baremetal
14:26:41 <ihalomi> should i somewhere mention it depends on merge of that podman change?
14:27:03 <mnasiadka> I have a question regarding reviews - I know some other teams are hosting video/audio calls for doing reviews in a bigger audience - do we want to try to revive 'Kolla Kall' and try to increase our review velocity by that?
14:27:10 <mnasiadka> ihalomi: use Depends-On: in commit message
14:27:41 <hrw> mnasiadka: can be interesting expierence
14:28:38 <mgoddard> ihalomi: it doesn't necessarily need to depend
14:29:00 <Connoridze> mnasiadka: +1 for video/audio calls.
14:29:49 <mnasiadka> ok, seems we could do one and see how it goes
14:30:10 <mnasiadka> yoctozepto: since you were running them in the past - do you want to take that role again (it's fine if you don't)?
14:30:12 <Connoridze> Where? When?
14:30:18 <ihalomi> mgoddard: it takes container_engine as parameter to decide if install podman or docker so it kinda depends
14:31:39 <yoctozepto> mnasiadka: not really, too busy
14:34:22 <mnasiadka> Ok, maybe let's try for frickler and others to come back from PTO and try to schedule that outside of summer vacation timeframe ;-)
14:34:31 <mnasiadka> Any other topics for open discussion?
14:35:15 <Connoridze> Can i ask here for review? plz
14:35:36 <Connoridze> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/849711
14:40:11 <mnasiadka> ok then
14:40:13 <mnasiadka> let's finish for today
14:40:16 <mnasiadka> thanks for attending!
14:40:18 <mnasiadka> #endmeeting