14:00:57 <mnasiadka> #startmeeting kolla
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14:01:09 <mnasiadka> #topic rollcall
14:01:10 <mnasiadka> o/
14:01:12 <frickler> now \o/
14:01:31 <matfechner> o/
14:01:43 <mmalchuk> hi
14:03:14 <mnasiadka> #topic agenda
14:03:14 <mnasiadka> * Announcements
14:03:14 <mnasiadka> * Review action items from the last meeting
14:03:15 <mnasiadka> * CI status
14:03:15 <mnasiadka> * Release tasks
14:03:16 <mnasiadka> * Current cycle planning
14:03:16 <mnasiadka> * Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:03:18 <mnasiadka> * Open discussion
14:03:19 <mnasiadka> #topic announcements
14:03:26 <mnasiadka> PTG in October is virtual - https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-August/029879.html
14:03:47 <mnasiadka> #topic Review action items from the last meeting
14:03:49 <mnasiadka> frickler check availability of zed UCA for Jammy
14:04:30 <frickler> hrw answered that immediately
14:04:39 <mnasiadka> ok then
14:04:42 <frickler> so next up is creating the actual patch
14:04:55 <mnasiadka> frickler: are you planning to do that?
14:05:14 <frickler> I can do that, yes
14:06:22 <mnasiadka> thanks
14:06:29 <mnasiadka> #topic CI status
14:06:54 <mnasiadka> seems mainly green
14:07:06 <mnasiadka> #topic Release tasks
14:07:45 <mnasiadka> It's R-8 - Switch images to current release¶
14:08:01 <mnasiadka> Ubuntu UCA is part of that
14:08:18 <mnasiadka> CentOS Stream 9 is not really working IIRC
14:08:25 <mnasiadka> And we should really be working on Rocky Linux 9
14:08:45 <mnasiadka> I'll take care of that based on CS9 patches
14:08:58 <mnasiadka> #topic Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:09:10 <mnasiadka> (headphoneJames) please review let's encrypt patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/741340
14:09:28 <mnasiadka> Is there any core reviewer interested in testing and reviewing let's encrypt patch? Or even a non-core?
14:10:38 <mnasiadka> Ok, we're a bit limited on the meeting today - I'll re-ask that next week.
14:11:00 <mnasiadka> (frickler) Using octavia_network_type: "tenant" in production
14:11:00 <mnasiadka> Why are our docs telling people not to do this? https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/wallaby/reference/networking/octavia.html#development-or-testing
14:11:00 <mnasiadka> Introduced in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/783876
14:11:00 <mnasiadka> Octavia proposes the same setup in their install guide without any warning https://docs.openstack.org/octavia/latest/install/install-ubuntu.html#prerequisites
14:11:10 <mgoddard> I would like to test LE, one day
14:11:39 <mnasiadka> I think at the time of merging that feature - we did anticipate that the systemd unit with a shell script might just fail sometimes, and we did not want users coming back and complaining
14:12:12 <mnasiadka> If somebody wants to raise a patch to change the ,,recommendation'' - please do - I guess it should be ok.
14:12:12 <mgoddard> indeed
14:12:13 <frickler> so for me, the thing one could consider not fit for production is using dhcp for the interface
14:12:27 <frickler> a static configuration would be more stable
14:12:48 <frickler> but the current wording suggests that tenant networks are somewhat unstable
14:13:04 <frickler> so I'll make a patch to update the doc, fine
14:14:02 <frickler> just wanted to hear whether there's any hidden reasoning I'm not aware of
14:14:20 <mnasiadka> frickler: are you planning to add static ip configuration as well?
14:16:32 <frickler> mnasiadka: maybe later, not now
14:16:36 <mnasiadka> ok
14:16:40 <mnasiadka> next one
14:16:50 <mnasiadka> (frickler) ceph-ansible has been un-deprecated (kind of)
14:16:50 <mnasiadka> https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible/commit/77fc0e105efaaa8a47e0d6f5676c01b2f674230f
14:16:50 <mnasiadka> should we consider switching the CI back to it?
14:16:50 <mnasiadka> not an urgent topic, maybe punt to PTG discussion
14:17:20 <frickler> yeah, we still use ceph-ansible for osism and CI for cephadm seems to be failing a lot
14:17:28 <mnasiadka> When it comes to me - I'm not a fan of ceph-ansible, and I can't see a reason why we would be going back to use it in CI instead of cephadm (especially that ceph-ansible readme points to use cephadm).
14:17:40 <mnasiadka> I think me and Radek put enough hours, to make cephadm green again.
14:18:00 <frickler> well currently I'm seeing a lot of failures for it
14:18:14 <frickler> but if you prefer to stick to it, I won't object
14:18:43 <frickler> just won't be able to help as much in maintaining it
14:20:01 <frickler> anyway, we can discuss again when yoctozepto is back possibly
14:20:11 <mnasiadka> Today it seems green, yesterday there were some failures - but it's not always cephadm fault I guess.
14:20:35 <mnasiadka> I'll try to take a look later.
14:21:14 <mnasiadka> next one
14:21:19 <mnasiadka> (i.halomi) Podman and systemd support status
14:21:19 <mnasiadka> review of systemd with docker a current status on podman version : https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/816724
14:21:19 <mnasiadka> problems with using podman-py
14:21:19 <mnasiadka> review status of kolla-build with podman support : https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/828716/
14:21:19 <mnasiadka> future testing of Podman functionality in Zuul
14:22:11 <ihalomi> our podman version is almost ready
14:22:18 <ihalomi> but we have one problem with podman-py module
14:22:35 <ihalomi> it doesnt accept empty environment variables and it deletes them
14:23:17 <ihalomi> it creates problem in creating haproxy monitor user in mariadb where he has no password at default, can we add there some dummy password to solve this?
14:25:45 <mnasiadka> Well, that would be a separate change not only affecting podman
14:25:47 <mnasiadka> mgoddard: ideas?
14:26:29 <ihalomi> i created issue in podman-py community so there is chance they will solve it but they didnt respond yet
14:29:11 <mnasiadka> well, the alternative to wait is to set dummy password for mariadb monitor user - are you planning to send that patch for review?
14:29:45 <mgoddard> can we translate them to empty strings?
14:30:56 <mnasiadka> it might be we could alter mariadb-clustercheck script to send empty password if variable is unset?
14:31:11 <mnasiadka> but we would need to move the code into kolla repository
14:31:33 <ihalomi> so should i create patch for only this password change?
14:32:05 <mnasiadka> that's the workaround I guess, unless you're willing to patch that in podman-py and there's a chance it will be merged there soon
14:33:23 <ihalomi> i am waiting for their response but i dont think i will have time to patch it myself
14:34:08 <mnasiadka> well, you know what are the options now :)
14:35:41 <mnasiadka> ok, let's move on
14:35:43 <mnasiadka> #topic Open discussion
14:36:27 <mnasiadka> (I skipped the Current Cycle Planning, but there were two features to discuss from the Additional Agenda - and I don't think we have the audience to discuss more of them today)
14:36:37 <mnasiadka> Anybody has any additional topics/queries?
14:37:09 <m_hiner> Did anyone take a look at Systemd patch failures, and if yes, can give some hints about what's wrong?
14:37:37 <mmalchuk> any chance to look at my reviews? orpphan interfaces cleanup for example
14:38:35 <m_hiner> One failed at cache fail and other at couldn't had connection closed
14:39:01 <m_hiner> So I suspect the problem might not be on the patch side
14:39:11 <mmalchuk> or repos.yaml for Kayobe?
14:40:23 <frickler> links would be helpful
14:40:42 <mmalchuk> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/845338
14:40:51 <mmalchuk> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/840033
14:40:55 <m_hiner> Systemd: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/816724
14:41:23 <mmalchuk> or even old TSL sync K-A to Kayobe
14:41:29 <mmalchuk> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/793697
14:42:52 <frickler> oh, that's all kayobe, I don't do that, but will look at the other one later
14:43:04 <mmalchuk> thanks a lot
14:43:33 <mnasiadka> I'll try to look at Kayobe ones next week most probably
14:43:54 <mmalchuk> mgoddard could You please look? You should be familar with issues
14:44:27 <mmalchuk> mnasiadka thanks too
14:44:53 <mnasiadka> m_hiner: on 5th Aug we merged some cephadm related patches, rebase/recheck so we have fresh results
14:45:21 <m_hiner> Oh okay, thanks
14:45:29 <mnasiadka> And I'll look into the results once they show up
14:45:41 <mnasiadka> ok, I think that's enough for today
14:45:47 <mnasiadka> Thanks!
14:45:49 <mnasiadka> #endmeeting