14:00:17 #startmeeting kolla 14:00:17 Meeting started Wed Nov 23 14:00:17 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mnasiadka. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:17 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:17 The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' 14:00:20 #topic rollcall 14:00:21 o/ 14:00:30 \o 14:00:40 o/ 14:00:41 hi 14:00:51 o\ 14:01:08 \/o\ 14:01:13 o/ 14:01:21 [o][_] 14:01:39 Cheers o/ 14:02:08 \o/ 14:02:51 #topic agenda 14:02:51 * CI status 14:02:51 * Release tasks 14:02:51 * Current cycle planning 14:02:51 * Additional agenda (from whiteboard) 14:02:52 * Open discussion 14:03:03 \o 14:03:10 #topic CI Status 14:03:22 it seems everything is green 14:04:10 #topic Release tasks 14:04:41 Soo... we should be approaching release candidate for Kolla and Kolla-Ansible 14:05:12 Kolla OpenSearch is in good state I think, needs just some changes for the upgrade job to pass - me and Doug will look into this and will call for reviews once done 14:05:59 Did anyone have a in-depth review of Skyline patches? 14:06:16 no, they looked too instable to me 14:06:49 I'd suggest deciding not to merge them before we branch 14:06:50 mnasiadka: I have deployed it on my test env ..it's working ..but i don't think it is ready .. :/ 14:07:20 instable in the sense of too much change still happening like the split into two containers 14:07:20 You mean as a software product it's not ready - as in it lacks a lot of features? 14:08:00 we can postpone to A and once containers are nice etc we can backport to Z 14:08:37 backporting features is PITA, especially in kolla-ansible (new host groups) 14:09:04 then 'sorry, decided to not merge for Z, move on' 14:09:10 most probably 14:09:36 though there's a lot of bad precedent for backporting new host groups 14:09:44 i don't think we have to backport upstream ..these patches can be easily applied to downstream git repositories as they will not conflict with nothing as they are mostly new roles and new images 14:09:54 'how to eat an elephant?' 'piece by piece' and our elephant (release) gets too big 14:10:12 yes, let's leave it for now 14:10:31 what about systemd patch? are we confident enough to review it - or are we postponing that to next cycle? 14:11:55 I pass, sorry 14:12:09 tough question, I would postpone that decision for now 14:13:03 Ok then, anything else that is a requirement before kolla/kolla-ansible releases? 14:14:08 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/861861 anyone? to update 3rdparty soft in docs 14:14:17 one +2+w needed 14:14:38 Ok, can we mark those required with review priority? 14:15:12 rp+2? 14:15:52 yes 14:16:16 and I'll review after the meeting 14:16:53 ok, the same for kolla-ansible 14:17:23 Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add ability to configure rabbitmq https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/865434 14:17:48 Ok, Kayobe needs RL9 support and Ansible bump at least 14:17:56 systemd reviewed 14:18:08 bbezak: how is that going? 14:19:45 in progress - custom routing table feature needs to be added for network manager in ansible-network-interfaces role. Hopefully will be finished soon. It also would be nice to test it when RL 9.1 would be released as there are some changes in network manager. 14:20:22 I remember that on cs9 the CI job is failing, right? 14:20:30 darmach: how's the Ansible bump in Kayobe? 14:21:04 I didn't have the time to take care of it yet, will try next week 14:21:29 ok then 14:21:29 mnasiadka: yes cs9 is failing, but there NM is even way newer. But I'm looking into that as well. 14:21:39 mgoddard: anything else in Kayobe needs merging? 14:21:50 o/ sorry for being late 14:22:07 many patches needs) 14:22:33 I ask last meeting to review 14:23:18 mnasiadka: we made a list of patches for zed in the PTG etherpad 14:23:37 roughly in order 14:23:42 we won't get them all in 14:24:05 as always, but I think we need to remind Kayobe cores to look into them :) 14:24:11 atleast TLS reviewd for an year 14:24:38 ok, I think that's it for release/current cycle planning 14:24:56 #topic Additional agenda (from whiteboard) 14:25:13 (frickler) Revise Kolla core reviewer list 14:25:23 Some contributors seem to be inactive for a long time, consider cleaning up 14:25:43 and also current list of contributers: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kolla#Active_Contributors 14:25:45 Yes, I did a cleanup based on my actions last year to reach out to inactive cores 14:25:51 its outdated 14:25:52 mmalchuk: we're not using the wiki anymore 14:26:04 peoples read it 14:26:17 so we need to close wiki? 14:26:33 update the page to redirect to our docs only 14:26:47 I'll review if everything on the wiki is moved to our docs - and update the wiki with a link to the docs. 14:27:02 #todo mnasiadka shut down the wiki for Kolla 14:27:18 Also discuss whether to merge kolla-core and kolla-ansible-core groups 14:27:34 i think it makes sense 14:27:47 list removed from wiki 14:28:06 what about additioanl cores? in Kayobe too 14:28:47 mmalchuk: we've discussed that last time, I don't see any immediate candidates - nor any candidates have been proposed to me by other cores 14:29:07 sad( 14:29:09 so difference between groups is that one person is only in kolla-ansible and one person only in kolla 14:30:05 Chason Chan has not been active for couple of last cycles apart 1-2 reviews with +2 (he's only core in kolla) 14:30:15 While Doug Szumski is active in the monitoring parts of Kolla-Ansible 14:30:22 so - should we merge the groups? 14:30:34 they are connected vessels in my opinion [kolla,kolla-ansible] 14:31:02 so it should be in my opinion 14:31:22 I see Chason in kolla-ansible only 14:31:33 but I also agree on merging 14:31:38 +1 14:31:42 ah, sorry, my mind is playing tricks 14:32:00 +1 for merging kolla/kolla-ansible into one 14:32:26 Ok, so we should add Doug and Chason to kolla-core and retire kolla-ansible-core group 14:32:31 yes 14:32:41 .oO(yet another abandoned gerrit group \o/) 14:32:45 Anyone volunteers for making that? 14:33:12 o/ 14:33:29 ok then 14:33:39 I want, but not core yet( 14:33:48 frickler: did you investigate what to do with kolla-mesos/kubernetes/cli groups? 14:34:09 yes, we have no way to delete them so far 14:34:39 we are investigating the possibility to do some mass cleanup, but likely nothing will happen short term 14:34:57 ok, I don't even have rights to edit members in those groups 14:35:35 well, not in kolla-kubernetes 14:35:40 anyway, let's merge groups for now 14:35:56 #todo frickler merge kolla-core and kolla-ansible-core gerrit groups 14:36:36 #topic Open discussion 14:36:38 bbezak: now 14:37:47 We need to revert ovn-chassis-mac-mapping changes in K-A, back to Wallaby - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/865392 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/865395 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/865394 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/865393 14:37:47 i would like to ask mnasiadka and frickler if patch regarding rabbitmq configuration is OK now https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/865434 << I will abandon another two patches i currently have in gerrit 14:38:58 There is ongoing discussion with Neutron team on that case. At first they suggested fix that we merged - and it did fix HA chassis priorities problem, unfortunately it also added new problem 14:39:51 that bandwidth between external ports in vlan networks were terribly slow, probably due to mac flood problem 14:39:56 good luck we didn't release that yet, otherwise we couldn't simply remove the renos 14:40:38 can we somehow have a test for that issue? 14:41:03 but anyway, let's approve the reverts, I agree 14:41:31 It's going to be complicated, External ports are for bare metals or SRIOV VMs, we don't even have a CI job for ironic+ovn 14:41:58 which probably would make sense to do 14:43:10 so we'd best need a 3rd party CI with proper hardware? 14:43:40 or can that be emulated like in ironic CI? 14:43:55 I think it should be possible to get that emulated, just saying it will need some work 14:44:27 ack 14:44:31 kevko: I'll take a look at your patch once CI results are in 14:44:40 frickler: thanks 14:45:31 me too 14:45:36 ok, any other topics? 14:47:22 erlang 25.1.2 for centos 8/9 stream/aarch64 will be soon (sent for build) 14:47:35 great 14:48:43 ok, then let's end for today 14:48:48 thanks for coming! 14:48:49 #endmeeting