14:04:20 <dmellado> #startmeeting kuryr
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14:04:24 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'
14:04:30 <dmellado> hiya foilks, who's here today for the kuryr meeting?
14:04:51 <dulek> o/
14:05:19 <dulek> Though I'm just back from my PTO, so there won't be a lot of updates from me. ;)
14:05:53 <dmellado> I came back from SnowpenStack teh 2nd
14:06:00 <dmellado> that's just Denver for all of you
14:06:19 <dmellado> I had a nice discussion with sean k mooney and jan from os-vif
14:06:24 <dmellado> did you get to see the etherpad?
14:06:58 <dmellado> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/os-vif-kuryr
14:09:12 <dmellado> #topic kuryr-kubernetes
14:09:37 <dmellado> besides that, I also want to let you folks know that all kuryr cores are now also devstack-plugin-container cores
14:09:58 <dmellado> as hongbin kindly asked us to help on that so we could all get faster reviews
14:10:06 <dmellado> so yahoo new +2 powers
14:11:49 <dmellado> we were also discussing about...who would guess
14:11:52 <dmellado> octavia and amphoraes
14:11:59 <maysams> XD
14:12:36 <dmellado> johnsom: around?
14:12:39 <johnsom> Great things
14:12:45 <dmellado> hiya!
14:13:19 <dmellado> I kinda recall that we noted down the current issues on the non-lxc containerization
14:13:22 <dmellado> wouldn't you have that link around?
14:13:37 <johnsom> Sure, just a second
14:13:56 <johnsom> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-train-ptg
14:14:03 <johnsom> Line 204
14:14:19 <johnsom> It's a rough list Carlos captured.
14:14:29 <dmellado> thanks johnsom
14:14:49 <johnsom> Definitely do-able, just some work required.
14:15:29 <johnsom> I think most of that list is about issues running under k8s. Not as focused on Docker
14:15:40 <dmellado> so overall, most of my concerns are also regarding performance
14:15:42 <johnsom> Or other non-lxc flavors
14:15:47 <dmellado> yeah
14:16:37 <dmellado> but in any case, ltomasbo I command thee to set up some fancy meeting to discuss this as and try to set up work items
14:16:39 <dmellado> xD
14:16:45 <johnsom> I think the key part is getting the multiple processes we use communicating
14:17:28 <dmellado> honestly yeah
14:17:40 <dmellado> but also how to handle scheduler if that makes you lose connection
14:18:23 <johnsom> Yeah, I personally feel that k8s is just not a good fit for a low level networking service. At least not last time I looked.
14:18:48 <ltomasbo> o/ reading backlong...
14:18:54 <ltomasbo> backlog
14:21:01 <dmellado> ltomasbo: not that much so far, so no worries
14:21:10 <ltomasbo> yep!
14:21:26 <dmellado> I was just going to say that the same that we'll be having a meeting with the os-vif folks
14:21:40 <dmellado> let's schedule another one with the octavia team
14:21:48 <dmellado> and let's call it vPTG
14:22:04 <dmellado> I'll put up some etherpads/meetings and so
14:22:29 <dmellado> johnsom: you're be our most welcomed guess
14:22:39 <johnsom> Nice
14:23:48 <dmellado> Another topic that got covered around the PTG, besides the trains, which might sound funny but still affected some rooms
14:24:01 <dmellado> was about making some changes at the openstacksdk/client
14:24:17 <dmellado> in order to tackle the missing parts for bulk operations
14:24:59 <dmellado> we had a meeting with dhellmann and agreed to somehow add a new model to the openstackclient
14:25:09 <dmellado> pretty much in the same way that kubernetes is doing with files
14:25:15 <dmellado> so insted of kubectl apply -f
14:25:34 <dmellado> it'll be somehow along the lines of openstack bulk create -f foo.yaml
14:27:39 <dmellado> njohnston will be the one proposing such a model change so maysams, dulek, ltomasbo, please do lend him a hand and review his patches
14:28:16 <dmellado> also, ltomasbo
14:28:40 <ltomasbo> dmellado, it will be real bulk operation? or just a way to call the api just once? but the tasks are done 1 by 1
14:28:47 <dmellado> I'll be getting you in touch with some INRIA folks who we might want to sync in Kuryr edge networking usecases
14:29:07 <dmellado> ltomasbo: njohnston modified neutron so now there's real bulk operation using the api
14:29:27 <ltomasbo> dmellado, bulk operations for what? creating/deleting ports?
14:29:39 <ltomasbo> or for anything? like creating sg rules?
14:29:53 <ltomasbo> the later will be awesome for network policies....
14:29:56 <dmellado> ltomasbo: seems like everything that the api supports would now be real bulk
14:30:01 <dmellado> so that'd be really cool
14:30:01 <maysams> for sure!!
14:30:11 <dmellado> I'm pretty sure it'll heavily affect performance
14:30:35 <dmellado> and we might even want to deprecate port pools if this goes all well
14:30:38 <ltomasbo> I won't believe it until I see it in action :)
14:30:54 <dmellado> ltomasbo: me neither, so *again* I command thee
14:30:56 <dmellado> xD
14:30:59 <ltomasbo> dmellado, not sure about that either... still better to have them ready than re-create them
14:31:10 <dmellado> well, you know the rest, please do test this if you get the chance
14:31:21 <dmellado> and let's sync with the neutron guys if there's something that is *not* there
14:32:07 <dmellado> ltomasbo: maysams any update from your side?
14:32:31 <dmellado> dulek: how's being back home? hope you like the beers better now :D
14:33:01 <maysams> dmellado: I've been mostly working on adding more tests to upstream k8s, and fixing some bugs regarding NP
14:33:20 <ltomasbo> dmellado, not much, working on the patch to add pools to newly created namespaces: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/656975/
14:33:27 <dulek> dmellado: First the Internet is waaaay better. ;)
14:33:43 <dmellado> dulek: oh, true! you'll even be able to use video now xD
14:33:47 <dulek> :)
14:34:08 <dulek> dmellado: And beer was here as well, as friends got us a surprise party on Friday when we drove back to our place. :D
14:34:32 <dmellado> btw, recalled about you in Denver as I got to see your Intel friends 'from Berlin'
14:35:04 <dulek> dmellado: Ah right, Roman was there, and the rest of OVH folks.
14:35:21 <dmellado> and  in case you're wondering what did the foundation was giving away this time
14:35:29 <dmellado> now I do own some openstack socks
14:35:31 <dmellado> xD
14:37:37 <dmellado> all right, so it looks like this was all for today, we'll be at #openstack-.kuryr in case anyone wants to hang around
14:37:38 <dmellado> thanks all!
14:37:42 <dmellado> #endmeeting kuryr