16:00:56 <VW> #startmeeting Large Deployments Team August 2016 Meeting 16:00:56 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 18 16:00:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:57 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:00 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting' 16:01:35 <VW> quick roll call. Who all is around for the LDT meeting? 16:03:13 <VW> klindgren is it just you and I? 16:04:50 <klindgren> I think so 16:06:22 <mriedem> o/ 16:06:39 <VW> hey there, mriedem 16:06:52 <mriedem> just listening in 16:06:57 <VW> no worries 16:07:02 <VW> this is likely to be short 16:07:06 <VW> only have a couple of things 16:07:13 <VW> #topic Glance work 16:07:38 <VW> I was hoping Belmiro would make it, but klindgren have you been in any more interactions with the Glance team? 16:08:01 <klindgren> I have not 16:08:31 <VW> hmm - OK. will have to follow up on that then before next Thursday 16:08:36 <klindgren> I basically haven't really had any time for community work. 16:08:44 <VW> in case we need to discuss it at the midcycle 16:08:50 <VW> understood klindgren 16:08:52 <VW> clouding is hard 16:08:57 <doffm> Which glance work is this? Could we get a very quick recap. 16:09:28 <VW> sure doffm 16:10:00 <VW> some of it is around being able to disable/hide/depricate an image in such a way that only Nova is aware of it for rebuilds, rescues, etc 16:10:23 <doffm> That is a super good idea. 16:10:24 <mriedem> so not private 16:10:26 <mriedem> but not public 16:10:28 <mriedem> protected! 16:10:29 <VW> but there are some links to blueprints and such we were discussing with the dev team in past meetings 16:10:32 <VW> let me find them 16:10:53 <doffm> "public hidden" 16:10:58 <mriedem> hmm, 16:11:04 <mriedem> seems glance could just have a policy for this, 16:11:09 <mriedem> and a service user, like nova, could get the image 16:11:15 <mriedem> admin or owner or service 16:11:20 <mriedem> but the image wouldn't be public 16:13:16 <VW> some quota items and hierarchical project support 16:13:31 <VW> here is the logs from the june meeting doffm - where we recapped 16:13:36 <VW> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/LDT/June_2016 16:13:59 <VW> previous to that a subset of us had chatted directly with the devs 16:14:01 <VW> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync 16:14:50 <VW> will give you a few minutes to review in case you have questions 16:15:24 <doffm> VW: Thankyou. 16:16:21 <VW> my pleasure 16:18:51 <klindgren> IT seemed like their was some stuff that was in flight for some of our concerns 16:19:04 <klindgren> or atleast internal discussions in the glance team. 16:19:33 <VW> yeah klindgren - you are right 16:19:38 <VW> trying to find blue prints 16:20:32 <VW> community image spec 16:20:34 <VW> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271019/ 16:21:06 <VW> image life cycle story with Product WG 16:21:08 <VW> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327980/ 16:21:23 <VW> #action VW follow up with anyone in Product WG that comes to midcycle 16:25:12 <VW> alright anything else to discuss here? 16:25:17 <VW> I'll try do some follow up before next week 16:27:24 <VW> taking silence as "no" ;) 16:27:30 <VW> next topic 16:27:36 <VW> #topic OPs mid-cycle 16:27:45 <VW> any of you going to the mid-cycle next week? 16:27:49 <VW> I know klindgren isn't 16:28:10 <klindgren> yep - not I 16:29:21 <VW> We have a couple of time slots, though for LDT 16:29:46 <VW> what kinds of things would you all like to see the team dive into? 16:30:17 <klindgren> So if I was going to be there again - I was going to bring up that rabbitmq itself is being a gigantic pain in the ass 16:30:37 <klindgren> Most likely related to a change in liberty under oslo - about keeping exchange queues around for 10 minuts 16:30:52 <klindgren> which means each RPC message gets its own queue - which stays around for 10 minutes 16:31:02 <klindgren> but mainly the issue is the stats database 16:31:12 <klindgren> which is an actual issue with rabbitmq 16:32:50 <VW> ah - good stuff 16:33:10 <VW> as soon as I locate the etherpads for the meetup, I might get you to pre-seed with that, klindgren 16:33:53 <klindgren> aside from that, I think the only other things that was going to be hot topics for me this year was: 16:34:27 <klindgren> CI/CD how are you doing it. Especially the CD part. Seems like using jenkins as a task runner/deployer is not what its designed for. 16:34:58 <klindgren> What are you using to automate SOP's? using something like rundeck or the like 16:35:13 <klindgren> so people can click something and it follows a standard deployment type thing 16:35:36 <klindgren> Eventaully to get jenkins -> that thing to deploy stuffs 16:35:55 <VW> sounds good 16:36:00 <VW> will try to get some of that feedback 16:36:08 <VW> if nothing else, funnel it to the craton folks 16:36:08 <klindgren> bascially trying to get people out of the habbit of logging into boxes or running local ansible commands to do stuff in the env 16:36:15 <klindgren> and use a standard entry point 16:36:19 <VW> indeed 16:36:47 <klindgren> Then cells v1 -> cells v2 migration 16:36:51 <klindgren> who has done it? 16:36:58 <klindgren> or looked at doing it 16:37:10 <klindgren> or does cells v2 support more than one cell? 16:37:14 <VW> well, seeing how it's likely to be O before the full multi-cell support is in... 16:37:34 <klindgren> I thought that was suppose to land in newton 16:38:49 <klindgren> Was also going to see if anyone had looked at the segmented network stuff. Apparently its mostly done in newton 16:39:45 <klindgren> Outside of that - I dont think I had anything else. 16:40:17 <VW> the last update I got from our devs, was that it "could" be in Newton, klindgren 16:40:30 <VW> but sean d. will be at the mid-cycle 16:40:36 <VW> so I'll find out about that and let LDT know 16:41:01 <VW> my money is on O, though because, well, software... 16:44:44 <klindgren> yea - well Carl reached out to me and asked if I wanted to see a demo of it 16:44:55 <klindgren> so I assumed based upon that it was mostly done 16:45:05 <klindgren> but again - busy - so I haven't replied 16:45:55 <VW> gotcha 16:48:42 <klindgren> I think thats all I was going to bring up at the ops meetup 16:49:28 <klindgren> or atleast thats all that I can remember right now 16:50:53 <VW> cool 16:51:04 <VW> well if that is the case, I may call this a few minutes early 16:51:08 <VW> but just to be safe 16:51:15 <VW> #topic Other Business 16:52:30 <klindgren> Any one else having any new issues or areas of concern? 16:53:03 <VW> for me - it's mainly fretting over Cells V2 16:55:00 <VW> I'll try to round up a new list of concerns in NYC too, klindgren 16:55:11 <VW> so we can work on them up until and during Barcelona 16:55:45 <klindgren> yea 16:55:57 <klindgren> Are you going to be there at Barcelona? 16:56:10 <VW> I am 16:56:19 <VW> yourself? 16:56:22 <klindgren> I am hoping to be 16:56:46 <klindgren> We have a new manager - so tryingto see if I can get that approved or not. 16:58:25 <VW> gotcah 16:58:29 <VW> gotcha even 16:58:34 <VW> I'll keep my fingers crossed 16:58:38 <VW> OK, well one more action 16:58:56 <VW> #action VW get stuff organized for mid-cycle 16:59:46 <VW> thanks for hanging around folks 16:59:54 <VW> #endmeeting