15:00:37 #startmeeting large_scale_sig 15:00:37 Meeting started Wed Sep 14 15:00:37 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is belmoreira. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:37 The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' 15:00:53 #topic Rollcall 15:00:54 o/ 15:00:56 o/ 15:00:58 o/ 15:01:10 o/ 15:01:46 welcome everyone 15:01:56 Our agenda for today is at: 15:02:02 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting 15:02:18 Let's start with the first topic 15:02:22 #topic OpenInfra Live September 29 episode - Deep dive into Schwarz Gruppe 15:02:59 good to have you here felixhuettner[m] ihti[m] 15:03:39 I sent an email early today with a possible structure for the show 15:03:41 already looking forward to that session 15:03:54 have you had the opportunity to have a look? 15:04:24 yep, it looks nice for me 15:04:27 +1 15:04:42 amorin ttx are we missing something? 15:05:04 I am having a look 15:05:13 seems quite complete from first reading 15:05:13 I think it's a solid base 15:05:31 we are also already collecting stories to share :D 15:05:38 nice 15:05:43 great 15:06:07 we don't want to have a rigid structure... but only only some guidance 15:06:15 then we see where the conversation goes 15:06:31 yep, some ideas to throw in the discussion is always good 15:06:42 is there any topic that you don't feel comfortable to talk about? 15:07:02 ex: size of the infrastructure, software used, ... 15:07:12 no that is all fine for me 15:07:33 since we have external customers we might need to spare something out there 15:07:41 but the internal ones are crazy enough for stories to share :D 15:07:55 great 15:08:48 and i think especially about the Yaook part has a lot of ideas to share 15:08:54 *things to share 15:09:15 something interesting to mention before the move to YAOOK? 15:09:45 mmmh, maybe a short part of where we came from 15:10:01 but i don't want to be too unfriendly to our previous external service provider :) 15:10:41 but i think we can share the general reasons why we choose to switch to yaook 15:10:49 and that should be more generally applicable 15:11:22 you were using an upstream deployment tool? 15:11:28 or somthing from a vendor? 15:11:37 one from a vendor 15:11:42 lets say Salt based 15:11:44 i guess there is only one :) 15:11:47 ack :) 15:12:04 ok, we would not focus on the past. But maybe a general context would be good to introduce the story of yaook 15:12:14 sounds good? 15:12:16 yep, that sounds good 15:12:24 the story about moving from the salt stuff to yaook is a good one also I think 15:12:40 yes, that was..... lets say "interesting" 15:12:49 :) 15:12:51 allthough we managed it "mostly" without downtime 15:13:00 expect for killing neutron for 1 day 15:13:25 from my side I look forward to meet you (now with video) in two weeks. I'm sure this will be great episode 15:13:51 amorin ttx something else? or felixhuettner[m] ihti[m] do you have any question? 15:14:05 not from me, looking forward to it 15:14:06 I cant wait for this episode! 15:14:08 Nothing from my side. Looking forwared to the episode :) 15:14:36 just for reference: 15:14:38 #link https://openinfra.dev/live/ 15:15:24 let's move then to the next topic 15:15:26 #topic Status on docs website transition 15:15:33 #link https://docs.openstack.org/large-scale 15:15:40 Done by ttx. Thanks. 15:15:49 Looks good to me 15:15:52 yep, looks really nice now 15:16:02 ttx, do you want to add something else? 15:17:12 humm, conference wifi :) 15:17:24 I think we can move to the next one 15:17:34 nope 15:17:38 Sorry lag 15:17:59 no problem 15:18:01 #topic Next meetings 15:18:38 in 2 weeks we have the Open Infra Live and then we go back to the IRC meeting 15:18:41 September 29 - Open Infra Live - Ops Deep Dive 15:18:41 October 12 - IRC meeting 15:19:29 ack 15:19:56 in October we can then reflect about the Open Infra Live episode and start to discuss what's next 15:20:33 #topic Open discussion 15:20:47 we have the following in the agenda 15:20:55 "Fix for the neutron fanout queues is merged. Do we still need to delete old queues" 15:21:08 yep, just wanted to report that back from last round 15:21:22 can you share the gerrit link? 15:21:23 I don't have the context about it 15:21:27 so in master there should be no longer any old fanout queues 15:21:46 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1586731 15:21:56 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/855851 15:22:02 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/856411 15:22:23 belmoreira: the issue was that if you shutdown neutron-openvswitch-agent then there will be fanout queues left in rabbitmq 15:22:30 and they pile up a bunch of messages 15:22:45 that's great, we are affected by this here 15:22:58 nice 15:23:01 we endup with a very low expire policy to not suffer from this 15:23:17 so, that's a great improvment, thanks :) 15:23:32 thanks :) 15:23:52 thanks felixhuettner[m] 15:24:13 something else? before we close the meeting 15:24:31 nothing from me 15:24:50 not from me 15:25:08 Thank you everyone. Let's have a great "Ops Deep Dive" episode. 15:25:17 #endmeeting