08:00:18 <ttx> #startmeeting large_scale_sig
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08:00:24 <ttx> #topic Rollcall
08:00:33 <ttx> Hi amorin and felix.huettner !
08:00:48 <felixhuettner[m]> hi again
08:01:33 <ttx> Not sure we'll have a Belmiro today
08:01:40 <ttx> Our agenda for today is at:
08:01:44 <ttx> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting
08:02:14 <ttx> Our first topic is...
08:02:15 <ttx> #topic Next Ops Deep Dive Episode
08:02:57 <ttx> So I was thinking we should do a break with summit coming up... should we plan to do one over the summer, or just start again in September?
08:03:45 <felixhuettner[m]> i guess it could work if we do one before the summit
08:03:46 <amorin> Hello!
08:03:55 <felixhuettner[m]> but probably afterwards everyone is on vacations
08:04:23 <ttx> I think it will be hard to do one before summit
08:04:33 <amorin> During summer, it might be hard to have the whole team and attendees
08:04:37 <ttx> Ideally we would lock down a September date and guest early so that we don't have to organize over the summer
08:04:50 <felixhuettner[m]> sounds good for me
08:04:50 <amorin> That make sense
08:05:44 <ttx> Any suggestion/idea? kbarrientos was suggesting we do a RabbitMQ episode rather than a deep dive, as it is such a recurrent topic... that said we did some episodes on it already with LINE a long time ago
08:06:10 <ttx> so... Rabbit or deep dive?
08:06:11 <felixhuettner[m]> i guess that might be interesting
08:06:19 <felixhuettner[m]> i'm not sure if there would be interest in a session on OVN?
08:06:38 <ttx> we did one on Scaling Neutron... not sure that cuonts
08:06:42 <ttx> counts*
08:07:11 <amorin> +1 for rabbit
08:07:24 <amorin> OVN I will be useless :) but I can listen ;)
08:07:46 <ttx> who would we invite for that one? Just the regulars? Or some special guest?
08:07:46 <felixhuettner[m]> aah, completely forgot about the neutron one :)
08:08:13 <felixhuettner[m]> can we get one of the oslo.messaging maintainers for that as well?
08:08:20 <felixhuettner[m]> that might be an interesting view
08:08:42 <ttx> Not sure we have any, but we can try :)
08:08:50 <felixhuettner[m]> :)
08:09:08 <ttx> #info Idea #1 -- RabbitMQ episode, invite oslo.messaging maintainer
08:09:43 <ttx> would inviting RabbitMQ upstream be a good idea? Probably too far from our concerns?
08:10:29 <felixhuettner[m]> i mean it would definately be interesting
08:10:38 <felixhuettner[m]> but not sure if there is someone interested
08:10:59 <ttx> ok
08:11:00 <amorin> Maybe that would be disconnected from OpenStack if we do so
08:11:27 <ttx> If we end up doing a deep dive instead, do you have suggestions on who we should get?
08:11:29 <amorin> Or we should find someone that know / used OpenStack and is now involved in rabbit
08:12:43 <felixhuettner[m]> i'm not sure if such a person exists :)
08:12:48 <amorin> For deep dive, is there any chance to have a public cloud operator from China?
08:13:11 <amorin> Or any other large scale public operator?
08:13:24 <amorin> felixhuettner[m]: yup :(
08:13:51 <ttx> I'm not sure there is a large public cloud in the traditional sense. It's more like B2B managed clouds
08:13:56 <ttx> We can look
08:14:26 <ttx> #info Idea #2 -- Deep dive episode, large scale public operator in China
08:14:27 <amorin> Or even in the US? Is rackspace still doing public cloud?
08:15:30 <ttx> I'll ask kbarrientos to do some research
08:15:37 <amorin> Ack
08:15:38 <ttx> OK, that gives us good leads
08:15:47 <ttx> Any other sughgestion before we move on to next topic?
08:15:47 <felixhuettner[m]> so for rabbitmq maintainers we would probably need to get in touch with vmware
08:15:58 <felixhuettner[m]> at least they are the author of a lot of commits
08:16:40 <ttx> +1
08:16:52 <ttx> #topic Large Scale doc
08:16:57 <ttx> #link https://docs.openstack.org/large-scale
08:17:06 <ttx> Haven't seen anything new recently on that front
08:17:12 <amorin> Nop
08:17:25 <ttx> #topic Next meetings
08:17:25 <felixhuettner[m]> i was thinking about adding some ovn information, but did not have time yet
08:17:35 <ttx> felix.huettner: that would be great!
08:17:45 <ttx> #info Next EU+US IRC meeting May 17 15:00UTC
08:18:02 <ttx> and I confirm it is 15utc!
08:18:07 <ttx> #info Next EU+APAC IRC meeting May 31, 8:00UTC
08:18:16 <ttx> #info Forum session at Vancouver summit June 13-15 (time tbd)
08:18:35 <ttx> iirc amorin you will not be present?
08:18:43 <amorin> Unfortunately no
08:18:55 <ttx> How about you felix.huettner ?
08:18:56 <amorin> Budget restrictions
08:19:02 <felixhuettner[m]> i'll be there with some collegues
08:19:11 <ttx> \o/
08:19:18 <ttx> #topic Open discussion
08:19:18 <amorin> Nice!
08:19:25 <ttx> Anything else, anyone?
08:19:40 <felixhuettner[m]> not from me
08:19:53 <amorin> Nothing here
08:20:08 <ttx> Next meeting will be chaired by kbarrientos , I should be around
08:20:36 <ttx> We'll likely try to set a date and dig into topic for next episode
08:20:43 <amorin> Great
08:20:58 <ttx> Alright, have a great day, and talk to you very soon!
08:21:27 <amorin> thanks, enjoy your vancouver trip!
08:21:41 <ttx> #endmeeting