16:01:43 #startmeeting large_scale_sig 16:01:43 Meeting started Wed Jan 24 16:01:43 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:43 The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' 16:01:49 copypaste matrix fail 16:01:58 #topic Rollcall 16:02:13 o/ 16:02:14 Anyone here for the Large Scale SIG meeting? 16:02:25 Belmiro! Happy new year, man 16:02:26 hi everyone 16:02:47 How are things going in space? 16:03:15 amorin: hi! 16:03:16 Happy New Year! Finally stars aligned and I don't have a conflicting meeting in this slot 16:03:25 hey! 16:03:30 still on earth... :) 16:03:56 #topic 2024 Large Scale SIG activities 16:04:11 Our agenda is at https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting 16:04:22 Wanted to start with a discussion of what we should plan to do this year 16:04:33 o/ 16:05:33 Any goals, ideas? 16:05:39 o/ 16:05:46 felix.huettner: o/ 16:06:22 The "live" episodes are always a very good media for discussion 16:06:36 is there some ideas for 2024? 16:06:52 Regarding OpenInfra Live, I'm not sure how aggressively the Foundation will pursue future episodes, so we could consider a change in format (make it podcast rather than webcast, make it not live, etc.) 16:07:14 i also realy like the discussions there 16:07:16 It feels like teh "live" audience has been dwindling a bit 16:07:33 but not sure if find more guests 16:07:35 but if you think those are great we can definitely continue them 16:07:46 make sense to change the format in my opinion 16:08:08 The format that is there now is already +/- "podcast" like 16:08:22 does it maybe make sense to add topic based discussions instead of company based? 16:08:32 allthough i have nothing specific in mind there 16:08:44 belmoreira: yes, we just have a bunch of extra constraints (live means it's at a given predictable time in the day, etc) 16:09:19 true, actually my main constrain 16:09:44 making it not-live could open up to more guests, but we'd lose the live questions component 16:10:14 making it not-video would reduce production constraints, but we'd lose the possibility to show slides in corner cases 16:10:24 and while there is not too much, i think they help the discussion 16:10:45 I am not sure a podcast would work, are people ready to listen to large scale stuff without visual things ? 16:10:58 felix.huettner: topic-based discussion usually means a bit more work to gather "adequate" speakers 16:11:13 "podcast" sound only it would be a new format for us... the distribution channels would be different 16:11:46 I'm fine with continuing the current format, we just might need help securing future guests 16:12:17 not sure if we would like to add that complexity ("podcast sound"). Also, then we need to attract a different type of listener/participant 16:12:27 If you want an episode on a topic-based discussion and you secure the guests, I'll gladly help set it up 16:13:05 In the current format we have that flexibility... actually we did it several times in the past 16:13:19 (upgrades as an example) 16:13:36 Maybe we can continue on the "live" format, but encourage people to come with a topic and a bunch of interested guests (can be around a company deployment or around a specific operational topic) 16:14:12 that removes the weird intermediary step where someone no teh Foundation side takes the guest suggestions and goes to secure them 16:14:24 "on the Foundation side" 16:14:46 would also be interesting 16:14:56 just to figure out what people want to share 16:14:56 I can see wether I can actively 'recruit' speakers/topics from the Public Cloud SIG or from among the operators within the scs ecosystem 16:15:31 so we'd rely on a community "producer" to propose an episode, complete with guests... and we'd make it happen on the live platform 16:15:43 (we = foundation staff) 16:16:09 every now and then topics come up in the Lean Operator coffee we have at SCS that I think, would be a good fit for the live format. will see about pursueing that. 16:16:10 rather than centralize everything 16:16:45 I mean, centralizing worked well, but it's better to crowdsource ideas and guest connections 16:16:57 then i would ask around in the ovn community session, maybe someone would like to share something 16:17:21 I'm OK with it. We need to see if it works out. How we gonna pass the message to the community? 16:18:15 Instead of trying to force an episode now and then, the Foundation would organize them upon request, after the Large Scale SIG vets the proposal 16:18:44 We can say "the Large Scale SIG looks for ideas for future live webcasts -- if you are interested ..." 16:19:13 That said I expect most of the ideas / episode proposals to come from this group 16:19:26 sounds good 16:19:59 the main difference is that we would not commit to a cadence as much as we did in the past. No proposal, no episode, that's ok 16:20:12 +1 16:20:15 +1 16:20:28 +1 16:20:47 I'd rather wait for a good one that run one half-baked (there was one last year that felt very half-baked :) ) 16:22:03 #agreed Large Scale OpenStack show will continue in a live webcast format in 2024, but episodes will be suggested (complete with willing guests) by the community and approved during Large Scale SIG meetings 16:22:45 #agreed No predefined cadence -- no proposal, no episode, that's ok 16:23:06 #action ttx to send an email to the openstack-discuss list asking for ideas 16:23:43 Anything else on the topic of our 2024 activities? I guess we'll continue to slow-roll updates to the doc 16:24:23 not form me 16:24:36 form/from 16:25:08 nop 16:25:16 #topic Large scale doc 16:25:33 on the topic of doc... I haven't seen anything recently but if you did let me know 16:25:50 yep, nothing from me yet 16:26:24 #topic Next meeting(s) 16:26:27 nothing here, but I wish I will find time to explain something about rabbitmq streams and quorum, it was merged last week, so we will be able to explain it 16:26:29 it was great to catch up with you, again. 16:26:47 hopefully will be able to join other meetings 16:26:47 amorin: keep us posted! 16:26:53 yes, nice to see you belmoreira! 16:26:54 need to leave now. 16:27:02 #info Next EU+APAC IRC meeting Feb. 7, 9utc 16:27:08 belmobye! 16:27:17 belmoreira: bye! 16:27:34 #info Next EU+US IRC meeting Feb 21, 16utc 16:27:49 #topic Open discussion 16:27:59 Anything else to mention? 16:28:03 or discuss? 16:28:54 nothing here 16:29:12 Alright then... 16:29:14 #endmeeting