19:59:57 <jokke_> #startmeeting log-wg
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20:00:01 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'log_wg'
20:00:14 <jokke_> o/
20:00:22 <bknudson> hi
20:00:25 <Nikolay_St> \0/
20:00:48 <nkrinner> hi
20:01:12 <jokke_> rocky had other things to attend today so we'll go ahead without her
20:01:49 <jokke_> #topic request-id update
20:01:56 <Nikolay_St> I'm a little bit out of track and can't find any information in wiki :(
20:02:32 <dhellmann> o/
20:02:53 <jokke_> hi dhellmann sorry, I totally forgot our courtesy pings :(
20:03:07 <dhellmann> jokke_: np, I have an alarm, I was just distracted
20:03:13 <jokke_> :)
20:03:52 <jokke_> so we had good discussion around the request-id and the x-project spec process yesterday on the x-project meeting
20:04:00 <jokke_> please go and read the logs.
20:04:32 <jokke_> I think it's pointless for us to repeat that, _but_ there is good lesson to learn
20:05:05 <jokke_> split to smaller digestable pieces and do not try to circumvent the process even if it's not written
20:06:12 <dhellmann> I'm glad to see agreement about how we can start phase 1 of that work
20:06:13 <jokke_> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-06-23-21.03.log.txt
20:06:49 <jokke_> dhellmann: yes! so am I
20:06:53 <bknudson> so phase 1 is having the client libs provide a function to return the request ID?
20:07:40 <jokke_> bknudson: correct ... so first step is to make sure that if our clients get request ID they actually also return it to the user
20:08:16 <bknudson> we'll need that ... then the servers can log it , CLI can print it , GUI can display it , etc.
20:09:39 <jokke_> yup and I'm happy that we got that chipped out of the big blop
20:09:48 <jokke_> smaller pieces are easier to deal with
20:10:02 <bknudson> so next is x-project spec just for that?
20:10:11 <bknudson> since we'll want the same API in all the libs
20:11:07 <jokke_> bknudson: at least tpatil promised to revisit the x-project spec to the approach of splitting these work items to separate phases
20:11:39 <jokke_> I hope he will do just client spec and not try to get everything under the same one
20:12:01 <bknudson> ok. this will be plenty of work anyways
20:13:08 <jokke_> I have few good ideas on my mind how this can alone break the gate ;)
20:15:02 <jokke_> That was only actual topic I had for today. Anyone else have something worth of it's topic or do I swap to open discussion?
20:15:54 <jokke_> #topic open discussion
20:15:59 <Nikolay_St> sure
20:16:01 <bknudson> I haven't had much time to look at logging stuff. Hopefully will this release.
20:16:15 <bknudson> there's too many other issues
20:16:23 <Nikolay_St> the wiki pages looks like they're not updated for a long time
20:16:33 <dhellmann> Nikolay_St: wiki pages?
20:16:52 <Nikolay_St> dhellmann: sorry, I can be lost in termins
20:17:05 <jokke_> unfortunately I have been really tightly tied up to internal stuff lately ... I hope it will ease up soon
20:17:11 <dhellmann> Nikolay_St: no, I mean, which ones? :-)
20:17:20 <Nikolay_St> dhellmann: let me look
20:17:40 <dhellmann> Nikolay_St: it is possible some of the wiki content has moved to other places, and we need to change those pages to point to the new home for the information
20:18:20 <Nikolay_St> dhellmann: may be
20:20:52 <jokke_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/log-wg-meeting-agenda
20:21:02 <jokke_> Lets start to collect agenda on etherpad
20:23:00 <jokke_> ok anything else or do we just wrap up early today?
20:23:35 * dhellmann has been distracted with the milestone this week
20:23:52 <jokke_> dhellmann: that's ok
20:24:27 <jokke_> I've seen you guys being busy there and thanks to all of you actually dedicating the time for that
20:25:29 <jokke_> ok, lets wrap up, thanks guys
20:25:33 <jokke_> #endmeeting