15:00:25 <bswartz> #startmeeting manila 15:00:29 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 8 15:00:25 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:30 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:33 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'manila' 15:00:49 <bswartz> hello everyone 15:00:53 <bswartz> who do we have? 15:01:06 <vbellur> bswartz: hey there 15:01:19 <bswartz> vbellur: hi 15:01:33 <bswartz> Navneet: hi 15:01:42 <vbellur> we seem to have dowillia too 15:01:52 <bswartz> okay 15:02:02 <Navneet> bswatrz:hi 15:02:04 <bswartz> so I sent out an annoucement yesterday 15:02:16 <bswartz> it was kind of short notice so I'm not surprised if we don't get many people 15:02:35 <dowillia> Doug Williams here as well 15:02:45 <Navneet> dowillia:hi 15:02:46 <bswartz> the story is that many of the names on our list had trademark conflicts and we weren't able to get official approval on any name 15:02:52 <vbellur> bswartz: ok 15:02:54 <bswartz> hi dowillia 15:02:55 <vbellur> Navneet: hi 15:03:10 <Navneet> vbellur:hi 15:03:19 <bswartz> so I have settled on the name "manila" as a working name so we can get unblocked from legal/marketting issues 15:03:36 <bswartz> we can always change it later if a serious conflict appears 15:03:37 <vbellur> bswartz: sounds good. I wouldn't mind if this becomes the permanent name :) 15:03:54 <bswartz> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ManilaMeetings 15:04:14 <bswartz> Above is the agenda for the meeting 15:04:19 <vbellur> bswartz: ok 15:04:52 <bswartz> #topic project plan 15:05:14 <bswartz> So I posted the project plan we (NetApp) came up with on the wiki as well 15:05:24 <bswartz> It is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ManilaProjectPlan 15:05:31 <vbellur> bswartz: checking that out now 15:06:24 <bswartz> I established a github repo using the new name, and I copied a version of cinder containing all of the share-service work we've done so far 15:06:26 <vbellur> bswartz: the launchpad project is happening? 15:06:39 <vbellur> bswartz: ok 15:06:53 <bswartz> Rob Esker created a LP project but I don't think he's done anything with it yet 15:07:17 <bswartz> Rob Esker is travelling and I need to meet up with him to get control of the LP project so we can start using it 15:07:31 <vbellur> ok 15:08:20 <vbellur> what are the next items we want to knock off from the project plan? 15:08:28 <bswartz> Regarding components to be moved into oslo -- that's a step that would simply the work we need to do, but many of the components that need to move to oslo are owned by others 15:08:57 <bswartz> We may want to (in the short term) skip that step and simply get the code working in its current form 15:09:11 <vbellur> ok 15:09:11 <bswartz> we can always go back and move stuff to oslo later 15:09:19 <dowillia> I think that's a good first step 15:09:20 <vbellur> yeah, that sounds good to me. 15:09:49 <bswartz> the main risk to not moving things into oslo early is that we end up with duplicated code that will diverge over time from cinder and/or other projects 15:10:31 <vbellur> yeah, we can probably open a thread on openstack-dev as to how we can drive changes to oslo. 15:11:09 <bswartz> we identified 5 areas where it might make sense to move things into oslo 15:11:12 <dowillia> I'm also expecting some integration with Nova, similar to hypervisor assisted snapshots, depending on our network plumbing model 15:11:38 <bswartz> dowillia: absolutely, but that's a bit down the line 15:11:39 <vbellur> which are the 5 areas? 15:12:07 <bswartz> dowillia: we need to start writing down designs for the future work -- in particular the network plumbing 15:12:15 <bswartz> vbellur: sorry I got distracted 15:12:22 <bswartz> 1) API server 15:12:26 <bswartz> 2) Scheduler 15:12:50 <bswartz> 3) Low level stuff like glue code, conf file management, etc) 15:13:03 <bswartz> 4) python-*client 15:13:09 <bswartz> 5) quotas 15:13:30 <bswartz> And actually I think the conf file management has already largely moved into oslo 15:13:45 <vbellur> ok, yeah that seems right. 15:14:39 <bswartz> dowillia: I added network plumbing to the project plan 15:15:01 <dowillia> Thanks 15:15:05 <bswartz> dowillia: I have thoughts on what we should do, but all of that is lower priority to getting a working base 15:15:39 <bswartz> Any other suggestions for changes to the project plan? 15:15:47 <vbellur> bswartz: seems good to me. 15:15:51 <bswartz> It's a wiki so you can edit it as needed 15:15:58 <vbellur> right 15:16:07 <bswartz> #topic resources 15:16:20 <bswartz> Okay so the next important thing to discuss is who is going to do what 15:16:55 <vbellur> ok 15:16:56 <bswartz> NetApp is still working on hiring some developers to help with this 15:17:20 <bswartz> Navneet may be able to help after the blocks-related projects he's working on are wrapped up 15:17:50 <bswartz> Are there any volunteers from RedHat who can help in the near term? 15:18:06 <vbellur> Red Hat is also trying to identify developers to help with this effort. 15:18:25 <vbellur> will update you as we have more clarity on this aspect. 15:18:36 <bswartz> vbellur: should we expect something in the next week or do you think it will take longer? 15:19:02 <vbellur> bswartz: my expectation is that it will take slightly longer than that. 15:19:11 <bswartz> okay 15:19:48 <bswartz> well in the absence of resources I expect that things will move slowly for the next week or two 15:20:03 <vbellur> what are the near term things that we can target? 15:20:15 <vbellur> adapt cinder to manila? 15:20:19 <bswartz> items 5 and 6 on the project plan 15:20:31 <bswartz> first we need to rip out blocks-stuff 15:20:55 <bswartz> then we need to do the global rename and make sure nothing broke as a result 15:20:58 <vbellur> right 15:21:41 <bswartz> #topic open discussion 15:22:03 <bswartz> Is there anything else we need to discuss today? 15:22:22 <vbellur> nothing more from me 15:22:37 <bswartz> dowillia: I'll work on getting some of the network-plumbing design ideas written up on teh public wiki 15:22:49 <dowillia> thanks 15:22:49 <bswartz> you're welcome to do the same (please send me a link if you do) 15:23:20 <vbellur> let us send out a early notice for subsequent meetings 15:23:29 <bswartz> we can discuss that next week, in addition to checking up on resourcing 15:23:50 <bswartz> vbellur: typically we don't "announce" meetings in a weekly basis 15:24:11 <vbellur> bswartz: yeah, got that. 15:24:11 <bswartz> the weekly meeting is established now and we've announced our existence 15:24:14 <dowillia> I'll also try to get the word out about the meeting. I know a number of others have expressed interest 15:24:24 <bswartz> perhaps more people will have read the announcement by next week 15:24:36 <vbellur> right 15:24:39 <bswartz> we can notify interested parties directly as well 15:24:47 <Sam__> Hi, I just got doug's note. I'll try to attend weekly 15:24:57 <bswartz> Sam__: hello 15:25:16 <bswartz> we were just wrapping up I think 15:25:18 <vbellur> Sam__: hello 15:25:25 <bswartz> the meeting log should be posted by the bot when the meeting ends so you can go back and read it 15:25:26 <dowillia> Good timing Sam. Ben was looking for volunteers 15:25:43 <bswartz> Sam__: are you interested in working on coding? 15:26:16 <bswartz> Oh one other thing: I've created an #openstack-manila channel 15:26:21 <Sam__> maybe, or I have some other resources here I can provide 15:26:45 <bswartz> I will be there whenever I'm online if you want to grab me an talk about shared filesystems stuff 15:27:15 <bswartz> if there's nothing else, I'll wrap up this meeting 15:27:35 <vbellur> sounds good 15:27:38 <bswartz> #endmeeting