15:00:48 #startmeeting manila 15:00:48 Meeting started Thu Oct 30 15:00:48 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:52 The meeting name has been set to 'manila' 15:00:55 hello all 15:00:57 hi 15:00:58 hi 15:00:59 o/ 15:01:02 hi 15:01:04 hi 15:01:07 hi 15:01:28 #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings 15:01:51 * bswartz looks around for vponomaryov 15:02:40 okay we may rearrange the agenda 15:02:51 there he is 15:02:54 sorry for late 15:03:09 #topic dev status 15:03:23 Dev status for last week: 15:03:27 1) Functional tests for manilaclient 15:03:31 BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+spec/functional-tests 15:03:34 gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/132011 15:03:37 status: work in progress 15:03:42 2) Enhancement of share manager 15:03:46 BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/enhance-share-manager 15:03:51 gerrit: 15:03:51 #link https://review.openstack.org/129843 15:03:51 #link https://review.openstack.org/129844 15:03:51 status: ready for review 15:03:57 3) Manila share-networks-list API filtering: 15:04:01 BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/improve-share-network-list-filtering 15:04:05 gerrit, server: #link https://review.openstack.org/130147 15:04:09 gerrit, cleint: #link https://review.openstack.org/129849 15:04:09 status: ready for review 15:04:17 thats the main 15:04:29 vponomaryov: question about 129844 15:04:48 gerrit says it depends on an "outdated" change 15:05:00 yes, requires rebase 15:05:07 ok 15:05:14 also, 130147 is still failing tempest 15:05:16 :-( 15:05:39 will that be fixed by the change we merged this morning? 15:05:46 bswartz: you already has merged fix for it 15:05:51 okay good 15:05:53 gate tests just should be rerun 15:05:55 any questions on the above? 15:06:10 I'll do the recheck 15:06:25 okay 15:06:35 #topic design summit 15:06:43 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-manila-summit-topics 15:07:01 I cleaned up and rearranged the etherpad for the design summit 15:07:14 we have 3 agreed upon design summit topics 15:07:24 and a bunch of stuff for the meetup, in a rough priority order 15:07:51 Please take a look at the meetup topics and post some comments if you think something needs to be moved up/down 15:08:21 I'm still unclear on exactly how much time we'll have when we get together in paris on Friday, but I want to work from this list for our discussions 15:08:38 bswartz: little update about integration with tempest 15:08:55 k 15:09:11 bswartz: tempest is going to be split up, and functional tests are going to be in each project that owns it 15:09:25 bswartz: will it be overlapping with cinder meetup on Friday? 15:09:30 vponomaryov: that is similar to what we already have, right? 15:09:39 bswartz: as final result htat is expected - tempest has only "integration" tests 15:09:45 xyang1: unknown 15:09:47 vponomaryov, bswartz : there is a session about tempest-lib at some point 15:09:49 liek scenario tests, etc 15:10:12 bswartz: not similar 15:10:20 bswartz: now we use tempsest project 15:10:32 bswartz: will use "tempest-lib" library 15:10:37 xyang1: there's nothing official at all on the schedule which means we might have freedom to do whatever we want 15:10:47 xyang1: it could also mean they forgot us :-/ 15:10:57 ameade: yes, I am aware of it 15:11:04 xyang1: however we will try to avoid overlapping with cinder because I'm sure people will want to attend both 15:11:55 bswartz: sure 15:12:15 vponomaryov: it sounds to me like the changes to tempest will ultimately be good for us 15:12:22 vponomaryov: are there any issues you foresee? 15:12:24 bswartz: учфседн 15:12:27 bswartz: exactly 15:12:49 bswartz: it for point from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-manila-summit-topics 15:13:04 bswartz: we can remove it 15:13:25 well it's just a sub-bullet 15:13:35 we probably won't need much time on it, but I don't want to lose track of it in the notes 15:13:43 we should write down the official plan for integration along with everything else 15:14:00 щл 15:14:02 ok 15:14:45 does anyone want to comment on the priorities? 15:14:59 I didn't really have strong feelings when I put these in order 15:15:17 mostly I went with what I thought needed to be discussed in person 15:15:28 because I'm sure the discussions will continue after we go home 15:16:01 ok 15:16:38 #topic Kilo network changes 15:16:51 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Kilo_Network_Changes 15:17:04 just wanted to give an update on what I've been working on 15:17:14 this is a preview to the talk next week 15:18:33 I think I finally have a solid grasp of what we need to change to make 15:18:52 so my proposals are in that wiki 15:19:06 I didn't delete the first draft, I just pushed it down 15:19:55 to give a brief summary, what I want to see is for manila to recognize different driver modes and to operate differently depending on which mode is selected 15:20:23 all of this would be hidden from the tenants, it's intended to give administrators more fine grained control for how they setup their backends and networks 15:20:42 and specifically to enable use cases which are currently impossible 15:20:54 while at the same time not breaking anything 15:21:21 existing drivers will need updates, but the goal is to make life easier for future driver authors 15:21:58 so you're all welcome to read the wiki and pre-load some questions or challenges before the talk at the design summit 15:22:08 do you see enterprise private cloud using network segmentation? 15:22:28 jasonsb: I see both use cases 15:22:32 (IE: hippa or PHI data, lets say) 15:23:06 if an enterprise private cloud uses network segmentation, then they're really just acting a little more like a public cloud, as far as we're concerned 15:23:29 as long as we cover both use cases well, then deployers are free to choose what works for them 15:23:35 yes, with caveat of single LDAP (perhaps) 15:23:50 yeah I'm aware of that use case 15:24:12 I think my proposal will allow for that 15:24:22 VLAN-based segmentation with shared LDAP between tenants 15:24:57 I know it's a lot to read and even more to understand 15:25:15 quite interesting 15:25:16 I spent a lot of time coming up with this 15:26:13 i'm still working on getting an environment to start work on my manila driver 15:26:34 so for me this is very timely 15:26:55 jasonb: one of the issues I'm trying to fix with these changes is make it easier to "get an environment" 15:26:57 im also hoping to have an environment to test and do reviews :) 15:26:58 right now it's way too hard 15:27:25 I want to enable people to create much simpler environment, and help them scale up 15:27:34 rather than forcing them to start with the most complex 15:27:54 i like the image you give in devstack 15:28:00 but certainly you are correct 15:28:10 im sure it would be well received 15:28:23 okay that's all from me 15:28:44 I'll be working on the design for my other presentation topic between now and Tuesday 15:28:59 when are you presenting on this topic? 15:29:06 glad you asked! 15:29:15 #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/ 15:29:25 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Kilo/Etherpads#Manila 15:30:50 #topic open discussion 15:30:57 anything else? 15:31:07 next week's meeting is canceled (obviously) 15:31:19 bswartz: team meetup 15:31:26 where can we find info about it? 15:31:43 if you look at sched.org, on Friday 15:31:50 those are all the meetups 15:31:58 I'm hoping to get manila into that list 15:32:09 but we'll find out about what kind of space/time is available when we're in paris 15:32:14 I don't see meetup time for any incubated project on the schedule 15:32:28 so do I 15:32:49 bswartz: if not available - no meet up? 15:33:09 I've been told we will have space at our development team pod 15:33:17 we just need to designate a time to all be there 15:33:22 I'll be there when I'm not doing anything else 15:33:26 just to hang out 15:33:34 in case anyone wants to grab me 15:33:58 okay so just in case, let's PLAN on meeting up during the afternoon half of Friday at the manila team pod 15:34:03 so we can avoid conflicting with cinder 15:34:19 if I learn anything official or if we have to change the plan I'll use the ML 15:34:23 bswartz: +1 15:34:44 thanks 15:34:55 thanks everyone 15:35:00 who will be at the summit? 15:35:06 me 15:35:06 .o/ 15:35:07 me 15:35:10 me 15:35:25 me too 15:35:47 I know a bunch of others who will be there -- they probably fell asleep at their keyboards 15:35:57 bswartz: :) 15:36:00 =) 15:36:03 #endmeeting